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Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by ctdonath on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:38PM (#29103116)
Someone elaborated on the cultural marvel that is the humble American hamburger: that a food made of ground beef, bread, pickle, lettuce, tomato, and a couple sauces - most are rapidly perishable items - can be made on demand, year-round, for the incredibly low cost of one dollar is absolutely amazing.
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by dylan604 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:02PM (#29103251)
I would argue that a hamburger costing only $1 is very loosely using the ingredients you think it is.
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by s5300 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:33PM (#29103443)
I hate to say this, but McDonalds offerings appear to have gotten somewhat decent as of late, with regards to McDonald's/Fast Food in general. It's still trash... but I think it's closer to real ingredients than it has been for quite some time.

If we don't see a decade of economic downturn, in 1-2 decades McDonald's may turn into something decently healthy/acceptable, once again in the sense of still being fast food.

We could however see the dystopia of McDonald's only accepting fixed amount of meme doge tokens that go on to hyperinflate, and we'll all be able to shake our fists about how we were promised flying cars but got DogeDonalds

Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by jonplackett on Thursday November 04, 2021 @05:32AM (#29105022)
Maybe we’ll have the Demolition Man future where Taco Bell is the only surviving restaurant.
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by dylan604 on Thursday November 04, 2021 @09:48AM (#29107138)
As long as we don't use the 3 seashells.
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Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by unixhero on Thursday November 04, 2021 @12:43AM (#29103732)
It is out here, outside of the US
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by dylan604 on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:32AM (#29104089)
The food that fast food places use outside of the US is not the same food served in the US
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by kwhitefoot on Thursday November 04, 2021 @07:31AM (#29105748)
Here in Norway McDonalds advertises that it only uses Norwegian beef in their burgers: https://www.mcdonalds.com/no/nb-no/maten-vaar/raavarer-og-le...

"Mesteparten av råvarene våre stammer fra norske bønder.

Vi bruker for eksempel kun 100% norsk storfekjøtt, kun norske økologiske egg og norske poteter – og når sesongen tillater det, bruker vi norsk salat, tomat og løk. Vi vet at kundene våre ønsker norske råvarer, og derfor er vi helt og holdent avhengige av norske bønder. Ingen bonde – ingen burger. Kanskje er det din nabobonde som har levert råvarene til akkurat ditt McDonald's-måltid?"

Translated by Google because I am too lazy to type my own translation:

"Most of our raw materials come from Norwegian farmers.

For example, we use only 100% Norwegian beef, only Norwegian organic eggs and Norwegian potatoes - and when the season allows, we use Norwegian salad, tomato and onion. We know that our customers want Norwegian raw materials, and therefore we are completely dependent on Norwegian farmers. No farmer - no burger. Maybe it's your neighbor's farmer who delivered the ingredients for your McDonald's meal?"

Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by thinkingemote on Thursday November 04, 2021 @07:35AM (#29105770)
As an aside, and because we are talking about yeast, McDonald's burger buns are not really dough based risen bread. It's baked foam. Like they squirt it out all foamy and then bake it. (It's possible that no yeast is used, but I'm not sure)
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by phonypc on Thursday November 04, 2021 @12:47PM (#29109457)
Yeast is used, and the process isn't any different than supermarket white buns.

Industrial white bread processes do tend to involve very high speed/power mixing that incorporates more air and leads to a smaller crumb structure than traditional bread, but it's certainly not squirted out as a foam.

Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by unixhero on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:23AM (#29104312)
At 3am, the only trash food which is open is McDonalds and 711 throughout South East Asia, Australia, Europe. Been there, I've seen things.
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by ojilles on Thursday November 04, 2021 @04:49AM (#29104761)
I think you should expect a little more diversity at 3am. For example, the FEBO in the Netherlands.
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by lindseymysse on Thursday November 04, 2021 @01:39AM (#29103905)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oagmlbhobnY&t=11s

This guy thinks the Big Mac should cost $200

Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by hsod on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:29PM (#29103412)
You’d be wrong. Ingredient quality wise McDonald’s is fine. The issue is how much oil/salt they use
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by dylan604 on Thursday November 04, 2021 @09:48AM (#29107135)
You'd be wrong in assuming I was thinking about McDonalds in the first place. You took it there, not me. There are plenty of other fast food chains with a $1 menu with subpar food. Why are you projecting?
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by yodsanklai on Thursday November 04, 2021 @06:28AM (#29105359)
> the incredibly low cost of one dollar is absolutely amazing.

It's remarkable indeed. However, this can be the case only because we don't pay for externalities (including high emissions of CO2, barbaric exploitation of animals). This model isn't sustainable.

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Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by dang on Thursday November 04, 2021 @01:34PM (#29110142)
Please don't take HN threads on flamewar tangents, regardless of how you feel about hamburger.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by iypx on Thursday November 04, 2021 @06:10AM (#29105257)
As somebody who's only recently moved to a first world country, the "tragic" part is the amount of fat pretty much every food has it added somehow to it!

I'm literally starving myself atm eating just meat, potatoes, pasta and baked beans as that seems the only food which is still sold at reasonable prices without any added fat.

The hamburger seems pretty healthy to be honest. The unhealthy part is people stacking up to 5-6000 kcal per day from various unsuspecting sources, then comically blaming it on sugar and fast-food...

The other day I wanted to buy some biscuits: 24% fat. Before that I bought (first and last time) some hotdogs, while they're processed normally they're still healthy, not the ones in this country though.. 3 minutes after dropping two of them on a frying pan, I find them floating in a 1.5cm of grease that just started melting from them. Where I come from, I'd have to add some 10-15ml of sunflower oil so that my hotdogs don't stick to the pan...

Fast-food is really healthy compared to what normal people can buy in any mainstream supermarket, worst part is big name brands will usually have the most fat and sugar packed into their foods.

Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by Grakel on Thursday November 04, 2021 @07:25AM (#29105694)
Your information is wrong. I wouldn't worry about fat so much, and if it's leaking into the pan, you're not eating it.

The real issue is sugar. The body uses or passes most fat. Sugar historically was hard to come by so the body stores it. I recently moved to the Midwest and am shocked at the addition of sugar to everything. And at the size of people.

Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by adrianN on Thursday November 04, 2021 @04:04AM (#29104514)
It is quite likely that the street food contains ingredients that also come from industrial farming. Only the poorest countries haven't industrialized their farming completely.
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by OneTimePetes on Thursday November 04, 2021 @06:23AM (#29105330)
Ironically, in poorer countries, the industrialized farming produce is the "deluxe" one, and they will proudly praise the amount of chemicals used on the local markets. Always wash your veggies if you buy them and inquire about the area they are grown in. Google maps search that area for industry nearby/upstream or landfills
Re:Baking bread using 4,500 year old yeast from Ancient Egyp... by eurasiantiger on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:56AM (#29104463)
And best of all, you will have no way of knowing what that street food contains or if it will give you cancer after eating just one meal.