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Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by paxys on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:20PM (#29101161)
How many people even register their graphics card (or really anything else) online on the manufacturer's website? And considering it is impossible for people to buy cards from legit sources, what exactly do you expect them to do?
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by xyzzy_plugh on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:40PM (#29102414)
I had a fan bearing go bad on an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. It was literally two days out of warranty, and I was pissed. I was near one of their main offices at the time, and ended up calling their reception and driving to drop off the borked card after speaking to an engineer who wanted to see it. They handed me a brand new card, no questions asked, and thanked me for bringing the problem to their attention.

I miss the good old days.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by eightysixfour on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:46PM (#29103158)
I’ve been such an ATi fan after owning an FIC-branded 9700 that was flashed to a Pro and went bad in the first year or so. I was ~13 years old, called up ATi and told them the situation, I was honest that I had flashed the bios, and asked if there was anything they could do. They sent me an ATi branded 9700 Pro.

First company to do me a solid like that and I’ve stuck around since.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by monkeytaco on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:20PM (#29103354)
I had a similar experience with AMD back in the day. I was probably a similar age and damaged the pins on my new Athlon XP 2500+. I called them up and they ended up sending me a 2800+ as a replacement.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by masklinn on Thursday November 04, 2021 @04:36AM (#29104686)
It’s why I still like logitech today.

Had a mouse go bad 20 years back, called up support, they told me they’d send a new one. I was shocked, wondering what if I was lying and didn’t they want evidence?

They replied they took it on trust but I could cut off the usb plug and put it in the trash if it made me feel better (that is, of course, a very easy repair).

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by philjohn on Thursday November 04, 2021 @04:52AM (#29104788)
I had a similar experience with Logitech - when I first got into sim racing I got their cheapest wheel and pedal set - it started not keeping a calibration so contacted them.

They paid for me to ship it to them, and then just sent me the next model up as a replacement as mine had been discontinued.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by Arrath on Thursday November 04, 2021 @04:06PM (#29111923)
Same. I last bought a mouse in...damn, 2008. They've replaced it 3 times since, with the new equivalent model regardless of it being in or out of warranty.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by nmfisher on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:47PM (#29102799)
I had a similar experience, something borked on my Radeon 9600 Pro (assuming a busted capacitor) a week or two after the warranty expired, but I figured I'd try my luck and ask if there was anything they could do. They promptly sent me a new card for free (though it was probably refurbished), didn't even ask for the old one in return.

ATI was a great company back then.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by sennight on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:12PM (#29102604)
Back when IBM was making Thinkpads, I called their support number to get the FRU for a HD in a second hand laptop that was well out of warranty. The next day I had a package waiting for me with a new drive and prepaid postage for the return. Easily my best customer experience, without a doubt they made that money back - I went out of my way to direct my business their way for years.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by copperx on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:02PM (#29102883)
I remember hearing stories of Apple taking care of their customers like that, too.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by cehrlich on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:35AM (#29104369)
Apple hardware support was legendary before they became The iPhone Company. I had the first Intel MacBook Pro, and if stuff broke or the battery started getting a bit weak I’d just walk into the Apple store, talk to someone there, and most of the time my problem would be solved that day (with the battery they just gave me a new one for free, including once even after AppleCare had run out).

Nowadays when I go to the Genius Bar I feel like I’m being cross examined so that they don’t have to replace anything. And the examiner doesn’t know the first thing about the computer but is just reading a script someone gave them. This is despite paying for the most expensive warranty.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by sagarpatil on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:48PM (#29103172)
I’ve had the absolute worst experience with Apple.

I wanted to buy Apple Developer Program subscription. It wouldn’t let me add any of my credit cards, saw an option to add payment via UPI (Unified Payments Interface) in India. Added $99 to my Apple account and was still unable to pay for the membership. Spent around 7-8 hours speaking to customer support but no one had a clue what was wrong. I asked for a refund and was told money added to Apple account as credit can not be refunded.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by 2Gkashmiri on Thursday November 04, 2021 @01:03AM (#29103785)
Not apple but I recently wanted to get some work done on fiverr. The dev completed the stuff and when it was my time to pay, I couldn't. No card I used worked. RBI international stuff. I tried like 5 banks cc with international payments turned on.

I asked support and the dev for crypto and they banned me for soliciting third party payments.

I have been unable to find either an Indian dev for a small job or someone who can accept crypto.

Talk about fiverr support. Smh

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by markdown on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:14PM (#29103326)
Should have dragged the head of Apple India into small claims court.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by samarthr1 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:17PM (#29103342)
Actually, I think that's a job for the consumer court. I don't think? We have have small claims court (by that name atleast).
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by dathinab on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:04AM (#29103982)
A very long time ago.

Today you have to be careful when dealing with apple repair as they have been found to repeatedly engage in money grubbing tack ticks which border on fraud.

And that is ignoring the fact that in general they tend to not repair component but just replace whole components (because it easier) while hindering others from providing proper repairs (because money) even if it necessary for e.g. data recovery (because from their POV you are stupid if you don't auto-sync everything with the iCloud).

It's also ignoring the fact that apple had in the recent years repeatedly some very questionable design flaws (like strangely over sensitive power management chips, missing heat pipes and similar).

And ignoring that by soldering everything including the ssd on the main-board preventing on-main-board repairs a lot of damage from a problematic USB hub to a broken SSD will always lead to a whole main-board + ram + cpu + ssd + ... replacement which makes many repairs unreasonable expansive.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by themaninthedark on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:56PM (#29103224)
Not an Apple fanboy but when I got an IPod 4(I think) they started having problems with the included headphones. Read about it on Slashdot then soon after mine failed, I called(!) support and they sent me a box with new ones and a return label for the old ones so they could do failure analysis.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by lotsofpulp on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:43PM (#29103137)
One of my cousins went swimming with his new iPhone 3G 3 weeks after it came out, and they replaced it for free at the store.

I dropped mine in water (pool if I recall) 2 times and had it replaced for free also (3G and 4 I think).

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by code_duck on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:14AM (#29104267)
Commodore did something like that for me. I had an early A3000 that got fried somehow (probably by a NewTek Digiview) and we received a brand new A3000 2 days after talking to them.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by Operyl on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:28PM (#29103050)
They still do. Support will upgrade models of MacBooks every once in a blue moon (have had it happen before).
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by arcticbull on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:40PM (#29103120)
Happened to me once too. I got a lemon, it went in for service 3 or 4 times (this was right after the Intel transition) and eventually AppleCare just apologized and mailed me a new laptop - the next generation of them.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by Operyl on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:54PM (#29103216)
Same thing, only two repairs, in store exchange to a newer model, price difference comped.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by throwaway41597 on Thursday November 04, 2021 @08:05AM (#29106070)
Compare this to 3Dconnexion, a maker of expensive 3D mice for CAD software. They rubberized their mice but the rubber decayed after a couple of years (spent $200+ in the 00's and got a gooey piece of junk 3-4 years later). For a decade, they've been ignoring customers and saying the issue was fixed in a later version.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by wil421 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:45PM (#29103152)
Apple, Ubiquiti, and Microcenter have all honored just expired warranties for me in the past 5-8 years. You just have to be polite.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by lostlogin on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:50AM (#29104158)
* or be covered by a consumer guarantees act that looks after you.

New Zealand has a great bit of legislation there.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by Ueland on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:55AM (#29104184)
How long are you covered there? It's 5 years here in Norway for anything "you should expect to last five years", which means basically all computer parts and mobile devices.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by m4x on Thursday November 04, 2021 @04:07AM (#29104533)
The legislation just says products must last a reasonable amount of time. As you can imagine, retailers and consumers usually have different ideas about how long something should reasonably last. I've never had much luck getting products repaired or replaced once the manufacturers one-year warranty runs out.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by vegardx on Thursday November 04, 2021 @04:32AM (#29104661)
Directly from Forbrukerrådet (Consumer Council):

"You have 2 or 5 years to make a complaint if you purchased from a professional vendor (Consumer Sales Act (in Norwegian)).

The statutory warranty period depends on how long the product is meant to last when subjected to normal use. Sofas and mobile phones are examples of products with a 5-year warranty period.

When buying from a private individual, the warranty period is 2 years (Sale of Goods Act (in Norwegian))."

You can't have been trying very hard. I have never had any problem.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by m4x on Thursday November 04, 2021 @05:17AM (#29104922)
In case it wasn't clear, I was referring to the Consumer Guarantees Act in New Zealand
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by wil421 on Thursday November 04, 2021 @09:32AM (#29106950)
What does a private individual mean? If I sell you my MacBook Air you are entitled to some kind of warranty? Is the seller or manufacturer obligated to provide the warranty?
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by eloff on Thursday November 04, 2021 @04:08AM (#29104541)
The more I hear about Norway the more it seems to be a country that really has its act together.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by KSteffensen on Thursday November 04, 2021 @10:36AM (#29107728)
A lot of things are easier if the state owns a fund valued at approximately 2000 billion dollars and you only have to share that between ~5 million people. [0]

It's a crazy amount of money. In 2017 that fund owned 1.38% of the global stocks. I heard at some point they had trouble because they couldn't use the money to build roads or whatever without affecting the global economy.

[0]: https://www.nbim.no/

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by eloff on Thursday November 04, 2021 @12:54PM (#29109574)
That helps, no question. But the causality is the wrong way around. Norway had that fund in the first place because they are a sensible country that made good decisions. Their government clearly functions at a level the US today can only dream of - where they can barely agree on not shutting down every time they near the debt limit. Here in Canada we're maybe a little better off, but not close to Norway.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by dwater on Thursday November 04, 2021 @09:33AM (#29106952)
FYI Ubiquiti slashed their US based employees a couple of years ago, both engineers and support. Don't expect similar treatment in the future. You can see the change in responsiveness looking at their support forums.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by salamandersauce on Thursday November 04, 2021 @05:52AM (#29105162)
Lucky you. I had to spend an hour a few months ago proving to Apple my warranty had 9 days left it. And they did nothing for me when my warranty replacement iPad Smart Keybpard died in less than a year other than offer a replacement for 90% of MSRP but with another useless 90 day warranty.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by AMD_DRIVERS on Thursday November 04, 2021 @09:18AM (#29106788)
This, every time. I had my iPhone 11 start to booloop back in July, literally the day after the warranty expired. Called up their support, explained the issue, and they issued me an exemption and I got a replacement for free. Not trying to be an Apple fanboy, but I don't think Samsung or Google would extend the same offer.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by dillondoyle on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @11:32PM (#29103438)
Apple used to do this for me more than once. Not anymore they need that sweet monthly applecare revenue.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by Tsiklon on Thursday November 04, 2021 @12:53AM (#29103760)
Just out of interest was yours a Sapphire branded 9800 Pro? The fan died in mine and the only bad behaviour it exhibited was that it overheated in games (Half-Life 2 and Unreal 2 were the big killers), for anything else it was perfectly usable in that crippled state.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by xyzzy_plugh on Thursday November 04, 2021 @08:34AM (#29106331)
It might've been, I still have it somewhere probably.

To this day it is still the hottest piece of hardware I've ever owned. I swear you could cook on that card. It definitely didn't help that the fan died, and it melted itself into a broken state not long after I suppose.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by zeroDivisible on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:44PM (#29101441)
This is anecdotal but EVGA replaced my 1-month out of warranty 970 with 1070, after the card gave up to work about 2 years ago. And I registered it after the failure, although I was able to establish that I bought the card legally and was the only owner.

All my contact with their customer support was stellar.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by Baeocystin on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:00PM (#29102141)
To provide a counterexample: I had a still-in-warranty EVGA 1080 that had a fan die. They cross-shipped me 3(!) bad cards in a row that were clearly returns they hadn't tested (two had obvious physical damage upon arrival in pristine boxes), and on the final card that sort-of worked (a 2070 I had to underclock to stop blue-screening), never acknowledged my return of one of the previous bad units, even though I sent them shipping proof from the UPS store.

When I tried to get the 2070 replaced, they refused unless I paid full retail price for a defective card I had proof I'd returned.

I really regretted buying from them at that point, and wished I just had my original card back, which they couldn't provide.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by Drew_ on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:30PM (#29103066)
QA on their refurb units is definitely out of whack.

I bought a B-Stock GTX 580 from them which was rendering artifacts iirc. A replacement 580 also rendered the same issue. The next replacement was a seemingly new GTX 960 which has worked without issue ever since. Having received a $200+ card for $80 + some hassle was a net positive experience in the end for me.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by OneLeggedCat on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:54PM (#29102509)
Over the years, I've read about some really polar opposite experiences with EVGA's warranties. I wish I could understand what's going on there.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by girvo on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:49PM (#29102810)
Different locations, I'd assume. It's well known that EVGA outside of the US is... not great, when it comes to customer service anyway. Within the US itself though -- no idea!
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by Baeocystin on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:31PM (#29102711)
Over the two-month period this happened, I don't think I ever spoke to the same rep twice, and several times when I referenced notes that I know for a fact $previous_guy had, $new_guy had nothing. Most (not all, but most) were nice enough on the phone. I have a feeling that turnover is/was a large contributing factor.

edit: This was in the US, FWIW.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by wang_li on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:50PM (#29101503)
Some time ago I bought an EVGA 560 Ti and they threw in a 10 year extended warranty. A couple years in it failed and they replaced it with a 660 Ti. About a year later that failed and they replaced it with a 960 Ti. I appreciate their warranty policies.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by garaetjjte on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:04PM (#29102167)
I would not appreciate the product quality though...
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by artificialLimbs on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:19PM (#29102270)
>> ... and they threw in a 10 year extended warranty.

How did you get that?

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by alborzb on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:59AM (#29104484)
You can just purchase a 5 year or 10 year warranty when you purchase directly from EVGA.

Here's their pricing and info -- https://eu.evga.com/warranty/extended/

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by artificialLimbs on Thursday November 04, 2021 @11:49AM (#29108664)
That is shocking. I will definitely be purchasing an EVGA next.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by xxs on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:51PM (#29102479)
You sure those were new cards or just rejects (refurbished ones by other customers)
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by ineedasername on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:42PM (#29103132)
This. Buyers will have no way of knowing the card they buy-- at 2x retail-- was stolen. This penalizes buyers in a marketplace that doesn't have the structure in place to ensure 90% of its product doesn't end up in the hands of scalpers.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by randomswede on Friday November 05, 2021 @04:37AM (#29116770)
Expect anything bought from a scalper to be stolen. I thought that was "you're buying from a scalper 101" (or possibly "lol").

People buying from scalpers is why scalpers can continue to exist. There's pretty much no way of stopping that, outside of making scalping illegal, then strictly enforce that. But, then, that pretty much kills the first-sale doctrine and I am not sure that is a good trade-off.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by camhart on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:26PM (#29101244)
I do, because I want manufacturer warranties. I've lost out in the past by not registering and the warranty expires. I'm certainly cautious and frugal, but not too abnormally so (I think at least). I'd guess there are a handful of others like me.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by paxys on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:29PM (#29101267)
You have the warranty regardless. Creating accounts and registering your product after purchase cannot legally be a requirement.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by camhart on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:30PM (#29101289)
My EVGA card from a decade ago had a lifetime warranty if you registered it with them. I didn't, so when it stopped working 3 years later I had to buy a replacement.

Registering for an extended warranty is a requirement that many companies enforce.

Update: Why is this being downvoted? Literally from EVGA's website: "Limited Lifetime Warranties are available to the original owner on applicable parts if registered by the original owner within 30 days of the date of purchase." [1] [1] https://www.evga.com/warranty/2011/graphics-cards/

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by tharkun__ on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:58PM (#29101585)
What's the "lifetime" of a graphics card?

As in, lifetime doesn't mean your lifetime. Or the time you own the card. It means whatever expected lifetime the item has as per the manufacturer. The manufacturer may define the "regular lifetime" of their item to be 3 years for example and then it would not have helped you at all.

I've never registered for any warranties in my life.

I'm not sure if this is a thing where you are. But where I am for example, there are warranties guaranteed by law that require manufacturers to warranty their items for a "reasonable" amount of time (regardless of what their actual terms say). What is reasonable is up to interpretation and different for different items. They do give a few examples for common items like a washing machine but otherwise it's up to consumers and companies to figure this out together and if they can't you can make an official complaint with the government. Helped me w/ NVIDIA who wouldn't replace a broken tablet shortly after their official warranty ran out.

EDIT: No idea on the downvotes, when I started replying there were no downvotes yet, when I submitted there was.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by breakfastduck on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @07:09PM (#29101708)
Yes they're obligated to offer a 'reasonable' warranty but this isn't what you get if you register. You get a significantly increased warranty as stated by other commenters getting a card upgrade years after their card failed.

EVGA are particularly generous in this regard compared to others.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by verve_rat on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:17PM (#29102255)
If the company is willing to warrant the card for X years if you register it, then surely X years is the minimum bounds of a reasonable lifetime?

I wonder if anyone in a "reasonable lifetime" guaranteed by law jurisdiction has used that line of thinking.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by Dylan16807 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:54PM (#29102832)
> If the company is willing to warrant the card for X years if you register it, then surely X years is the minimum bounds of a reasonable lifetime?

What makes you say that?

Depending on who you ask, a reasonable lifetime for a phone is 2 to 6 years. But if I want to make my customers feel nice and secure I might offer a 10 year warranty, knowing that very few people will actually keep it that long.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by tedunangst on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:31PM (#29102360)
Should companies be prohibited from offering unreasonable extended warranties?
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by turtlebits on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @07:16PM (#29101765)
IME with EVGA, it's the working lifetime of the card.

I had an 6600GT which died. Over ~4 years, EVGA replaced it twice, the second replacement they gave me an upgrade (to a card one generation newer). Almost 10 years later, it still works.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by anonymousisme on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:55PM (#29101545)
Such companies may actually be in violation federal regulations. US Title 16 CFR § 700.7 covers this: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/16/700.7

So the manufacturer must honor the promised warranty, but they certainly have the option to offer an extended warranty at no charge provided that the consumer registers with them.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by dragonwriter on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:32PM (#29101309)
You have the legally required warranty regardless, but to the extent the warranty isn't required by law, you have whatever you’ve jumped through the manufacturer’s hoops for.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by blackearl on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:39PM (#29101392)
EVGA has reportedly great warranty support so it's worth it, especially considering it's a purchase that's usually $500+.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by mooman219 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:47PM (#29101477)
One data point but I have had issue with EVGA support, and their cards for years (I owned two before I swore to never buy another one). They had heatsink issues at one point and it was incredibly hard to get it fixed without me paying shipping and I would have been out a GPU for 4-8 weeks. I just fixed it myself and voided the warrenty.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by kadoban on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @07:26PM (#29101865)
Fixing it yourself did not void the warranty. It's against the law to void warranties just because someone else fixed it (unless they, aka you in this case, break it).
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by girvo on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:47PM (#29102801)
Me! I do. I've done it for basically all my parts, in case my retail store is a pain if something goes wrong.

These cards won't be sold any time soon, they'll have been stolen for mining.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by spaceisballer on Thursday November 04, 2021 @08:21AM (#29106215)
I register nearly all computer components. Sometimes parts go bad and that’s the point of having a warranty. Thankfully I’ve only had to replace a motherboard and a PSU. Actually they were EVGA, hence why I normally buy their stuff. I got a 3060Ti through them also. I just happened to sign up for an out of stock notification and to my surprise they changed that into a queue giving you the option to buy a card. I mean I waited a year but it’s better than trying to deal with whatever nonsense Best Buy is doing or Newegg.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by kitsunesoba on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:46PM (#29101466)
In addition to the warranty mentioned by others, registering an EVGA product of a certain value or higher gets you into their Elite program, which gives early access to queues for new products. This is what allowed me to upgrade to a 3080 Ti for MSRP in the middle of a shortage.

So it may not be immediately useful but can pay off down the road.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by xenadu02 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @07:24PM (#29101842)
A lot of products offer longer warranties if you register. For example my ice maker comes with a 1 year warranty but registering within 30 days automatically extends that to two years. It's an under-counter unit that makes nugget (aka Sonic) ice and wasn't cheap so I registered.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by NoPicklez on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @07:35PM (#29101922)
I do absolutely, for EVGA especially its quite easy and makes RMA requests a breeze (if I ever need to)
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by kevingadd on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:39PM (#29101384)
I register all my EVGA purchases specifically because they have very good warranty + customer service, and they have a great trade-in program for registered hardware.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by proactivesvcs on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @10:03PM (#29102892)
I do with all the tech I buy and sell. I was burned about ten years ago by two apparently-grey market Intel CPUs that I had purchased from a reputable distributor, and had to eat the warranty replacements when they both failed.

Once I started checking proactively I took delivery of a few hard drives that turned out to be "of questionable warranty period", again from various reputable distributors. I immediately had them replaced with no hassle.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by 71a54xd on Thursday November 04, 2021 @01:12PM (#29109834)
3yrs no questions asked warranty (at least in EVGA's case). There's considerable value there - in some cases surpassing the value of the card itself. What's interesting is EVGA now requires you to register the purchase date and location along with a scan of the physical receipt.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by nightski on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:30PM (#29101280)
EVGA has historically had the step up program. It used to be 2 years but look like it is only 90 days currently.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by shmde on Thursday November 04, 2021 @01:39AM (#29103907)
People definitely do it nowadays because there are incentives like card manufacturers giving you a free AAA title etc.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by hoseja on Thursday November 04, 2021 @02:59AM (#29104201)
The "free" game is usually gated behind so much bullshit it's not generally worth it.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by soylentcola on Thursday November 04, 2021 @11:18AM (#29108258)
Yeah...I tried my damnedest to claim some Call of Duty game that "came with" my 3080 last year. By the time I was done, I had to sign into "GeForce Experience" (which I'd avoided up until then) and install battle.net, reset my old account from the last time I had it (I think when Diablo 3 was new), then I had a hell of time because the authenticator was tied to an old device but I couldn't manage it without logging in.

I forget what eventually happened, but I never was able to play that stupid game and I only even bothered because it was "free".

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by acomjean on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:33PM (#29101323)
Yeah. Its pretty meaningless.

If you are buying a new sealed video card, never used sold on craigslist/ebay, I'm guessing your not very suspicious and probably not looking for a warranty.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by kadoban on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @07:32PM (#29101899)
In the current market, you have essentially no way to buy from a manufacturer or primary retailer. You have to get _insanely_ lucky to be able to do so.

So you're essentially saying nobody is going to be looking for any warranties on any cards, which is quite wrong.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by AnssiH on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:11PM (#29102208)
Around here (Finland) there is a moderate amount of various cards in stock at the biggest computer retailers, the prices are just high:

https://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/catalog/706b/Naytonohjaimet/... (in-stock cards)

https://www.jimms.fi/fi/Product/List/000-00P/komponentit--na... (cards sorted by stock)

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by kadoban on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:17PM (#29102256)
Yeah you're right, it does depend where you are. I can only speak for US market.
Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by Animats on Thursday November 04, 2021 @03:14AM (#29104265)
In the current market, you have essentially no way to buy from a manufacturer or primary retailer.

It's not impossible. Central Computer, Silicon Valley's main chain of computer stores, has a buying office in Shenzhen. So a lot of stuff goes directly from factory to them. This avoids the detour through Alibaba to somebody's garage to Amazon.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by xxs on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:53PM (#29102500)
in EU, you can just buy cards at amazon - the prices are what they are... 2100€ for 3080ti, sold by amazon, themselves.

Being amazon you have the easiest returns ever, just send a complaint and send it back, they will return the money and both shipping costs.

Re:Notice of Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30-Series Graphics Cards by 14 on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @06:47PM (#29101479)
Now days PS5's and graphics cards are bought up quickly and sold by scalpers. So I am guessing some may not be suspicious at all but assume it is just a scalper and may even expect to pay a mark up on said items.