Fairly good explanation of it being about far more than nudity. They have created a casino like experience for emotional interaction.

https://youtu.be/ji5qepCx-8s

I'd like to note, though, that this video also treats OnlyFans as a porn-only site. It literally starts with asking "Why do people spend money on OnlyFans?" when what they're asking is "why do people spend money on porn".

Thank you, that's a perfect example of the sort of thing I was fishing for with my question.

Very helpful video. Also mentions their sister site myfreecams. That's probably where the x-rated videos will remain. Seems like they're splitting the brand to have one NSFW and one SFW.

I assume they will end up like Tumblr after it went Safe for Work. Still around but nowhere near as popular and a shell of its former self.

Maybe I’m out of the loop, but at least Tumblr had recognized non-porn uses.

If someone linked me their OnlyFans, I would assume it’s porn.

How do they seriously expect people to use it when the brand is porn?

Not necessarily. Discord is a pretty popular platform for exclusive access to selected people, e.g. Patreon supporters. As long as OF allows this kind of link it might stay relevant.

Except they have the reputation of porn, but now they don't have the porn. I wouldn't go sign up for an OnlyFans account in order to follow a SFW creator, simply because the reputation OnlyFans has. However I would join their Discord or Patreon.

Now their in this weird uncanny valley of "adult content" combined with "no adult content". Seems hard to shake that image.

> simply because the reputation OnlyFans has

Lol. Watching a musician on OF and your friend looks over your shoulder.

Not to mention being associated with extremely bad business decision of dumping 30-50% your customers in one swoop

Did you know Pornhub has a social network-like function and achievements? But if a coworker wanted to connect with you by asking you to add them on PornHub, you'd probably not think that this is about a casual coworker friendship.

It's going to be similar if people link to OnlyFans instead of Patreon (or Locals).

Patreon already exists for exclusive SFW content, and with exclusive Discords you can also interact with other fans of the same content. Not sure where OnlyFans would fit in other than "different Patreon".

Tumblr is exactly what I had in mind. It will be a much less popular place with other copycats just taking over on that business model.

The article says

> Creators will still be allowed to post nude photos and videos, provided they’re consistent with OnlyFans’ policy, the company said Thursday.

So I am guessing the distinction is nudes vs sex acts?

...for how long? There were rumors they were getting rid of adult and then they put out an announcement saying that they would always be inclusive of sex workers. Then they just announced this.

Their credibility is gone.

What Credibility - They are 75% owned by Leonid_Radvinsky.

He puts the sketch in sketchy (porn click farms in the 90's, sued by Amazon and Microsoft working together for spamming emails by the millions in the early 2000's).

The nudity exception is probably more along the lines of the usual carve-outs for 'scientific, educational, or artistic' content.

That's my question, too - I thought OnlyFans was a hosting platform for personal porn sites; I remember there was a big uproar a few months back when some TikTok influencer joined the site and started posting non-adult content. People were upset that they were diluting a site that's specifically for adult content.

Not quite accurate. Bella Thorne joined Onlyfans and promised "no clothes naked" content in exchange for her $200 subscription fee. She made millions of dollars but then only sent clothed and obscured pictures to her subscribers. After thousands of people demanded refunds, Onlyfans changed their policies to heavily limit how much subscribers could be charged for content, how much they could pay, and increased the creator payout wait time from one week to three weeks. This heavily damaged the incomes of thousands of people overnight.

lol dang, didn't know she duped that many thirsty fans so badly.

Linus Media Group (Linus Tech Tips) started an OnlyFans parody-style account for April Fool's this year

https://onlyfans.com/reallinustechtips

Ended up being one of the top accounts on the platform for a while.

They also donated the income to a right to repair act.

I think the initial purpose was similar to Patreon: allowing creators a way to monetize. It just became famous due to the pornographic content.

To be more specific, it was a direct competitor to Patreon, but patreon banned porn and onlyfans didn’t, thus the market differentiation.

Patreon has decidedly 18+ content on it. It even has 18+ interstitial pages to make sure you’re 18+

From Patreon Support:

While we allow nudity and for creators to push the boundaries of art, we also have guidelines against funding pornography on patreon. In our community guidelines: We define pornographic material as real people engaging in sexual acts such as masturbation or sexual intercourse on camera.

what are 18+ interstitial pages? I didn't find much on 1st page of ddg

Interstitial pages are pages that pop up when you intend to go somewhere else, but need to complete an approval process, like the “I agree to the EULA” page

Edit: an 18+ interstitial would just be one that asks if the person is 18+

It's gotten taken over by celebrities. They don't promote content from girls selling their nudes anymore.

Even dead ones get it better. I took one look at it recently and saw lil peep on there. My first thought was wow they're really putting a dead rapper's meat out there like that? But nah, it's like unreleased music videos and shit. Gotta wonder who is milking that.

Rachel Dolezal joining was probably the shark-jumping in this trend.

It's a huge win for PornHub which already has a robust amateur porn monetation platform. I suspect most explicit OF users already use PH for teasers and free content. Most likely they will move all content to PH and leave OF behind

Had. PornHub are still blocked by MasterCard, Visa and Discover and since American Express was never an option, that’s a lock, no credits cards for PornHub.

Think “show your titties,” not “suck a dick.”

Man, I would hate to be the judge of "nude but not sexually explicit" content

Good old "I know it when I see it"

I'm sure you could find a few volunteers.

Fourth paragraph

> That popularity also brought with it additional scrutiny, and OnlyFans is positioning itself more as a forum for musicians, fitness instructors and chefs than sex workers. While many of its most-popular creators post videos of themselves engaging in sexual behavior, several mainstream celebrities like Bella Thorne, Cardi B and Tyga have also set up accounts.

Bella Thorne was only there for explicit stuff.

Not sure about the other celebs.

Are you sure? Another user posted this elsewhere in this thread, a few posts below yours:

>Not quite accurate. Bella Thorne joined Onlyfans and promised "no clothes naked" content in exchange for her $200 subscription fee. She made millions of dollars but then only sent clothed and obscured pictures to her subscribers. After thousands of people demanded refunds, Onlyfans changed their policies to heavily limit how much subscribers could be charged for content, how much they could pay, and increased the creator payout wait time from one week to three weeks. This heavily damaged the incomes of thousands of people overnight.

Yeah. She was there because of “no clothes naked” which is explicit. She ended up being deceitful and hurting others. Still means she was there because of explicit stuff. in other words, there’s a reason she made millions on onlyfans in no time and not with a brand new Payreon.

There's cooking videos, yoga, gardening and other benign stuff on OF, believe it or not.

Pretty sure that content is not what is bringing in the monies.

I watch several channels on YT, and I think they have excellent value (educational like 3Blue1Brown, entertaining like Davie504, musical like Ichika Nito and so on). I really enjoy watching/listening to them especially when I do something around the house like cleaning. But the moment they said they go OnlyFans and I have to pay $10 in order to watch them, I can't imagine I'd switch.

Is it OnlyFans or paying money for things that's the issue? Would you pay $10 on Paetreon or for YouTube premium? Would you pay $1 to OnlyFans? How about paying $10, but no one would know you were paying OnlyFans?

It's the immense hassle involved with paying small amounts of money to many different people. Sites like YouTube (and presumably OnlyFans) fix that problem.

Why not just feature that stuff on the homepage? Most adult-oriented channels are run solo, so they're distributing links via social channels.

Same as Twitter. It's awash in porn but you wouldn't really know it if you stuck to the default trends and searches.

There's benign stuff on PornHub too, but I don't think they'd be able to survive without their adult content either.

Yes but if somebody says "drop your OF" is not talking about gardening. Mostly it is known for sexual material.

InRange moved to pornhub when they were banned from Youtube. While cute and all, that made 0% revenue for them.

On ThePornDude, there is a section called "free OnlyFans leaks sites", which is an excellent example of actual content.

Stealing content from self-employed creators is pretty low. There is plenty of free porn on the internet that doesn't involve theft.

Agree, furthermore, those sites are content scrapers from other sources.

Most of which is posted in violation of copy right.