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Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by enriquto on Sunday July 04, 2021 @05:22PM (#27732721)
This is extremely infuriating. Alexandra Elbakyan has done a huge positive contribution to human civilization, even knowing that it was putting herself at personal risk. She's just 32 years old. How can we help her? Does she need money, public support, vpns in every country? Whatever she needs, mankind is indebted to her and we should help if we can.

Anybody who has ever supported their research using Sci-Hub (or Library Genesis) should consider helping back. I certainly do, but I don't know how to best support her. Any suggestions?

She's not very communicative lately: https://twitter.com/ringo_ring

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by VortexDream on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:03PM (#27733323)
The world is infinitely worse if she or sci-hub are taken out. There's no way to quantify how incredibly useful it is to humanity as a whole, and it's probably the single best creation of the past 100 years, with no exaggeration. It's delivering what we always envisioned for the internet. The free exchange of information and ideas, no matter your nationality, your wealth, color of skin, etc.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by danuker on Sunday July 04, 2021 @05:51PM (#27732916)
> I don't know how to best support her. Any suggestions?

My guess would be to donate to her. Near the bottom of the page is a BTC address (please check it yourself):

https://sci-hub.do/ https://sci-hub.st/ https://sci-hub.se/

All the domains have the same address for me: 12PCbUDS4ho7vgSccmixKTHmq9qL2mdSns

Money (and Bitcoin is among the freest money) can be used on whatever she needs.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by exikyut on Sunday July 04, 2021 @08:09PM (#27733639)
I was idly curious about the account state, so went digging for visualization tools. Most of them have nice designs and not very much info :) but

- https://mempool.space/address/12PCbUDS4ho7vgSccmixKTHmq9qL2m... shows a presumably-USD$ amount next to each transaction

- https://explorer.bitquery.io/bitcoin/address/12PCbUDS4ho7vgS... (select "Sankey", slide "Detail level" all the way to the right) shows how the money's mostly going elsewhere

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by sillysaurusx on Sunday July 04, 2021 @10:35PM (#27734207)
She only has $40k of BTC in her account :(

I know it’s a lot, but legal fees eat up so much. Hopefully she can win the case without sacrificing her entire savings too.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by ipaddr on Sunday July 04, 2021 @10:35PM (#27734206)
All together she made 250,000 over the lifetime of that address.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by FabHK on Monday July 05, 2021 @07:21AM (#27736748)
At today's BTC price, or price at the time of receiving it? (The latter would be the most appropriate measure, I'd think. Or maybe use the price at the price when she spent it, though that would incorporate the result of her speculating on BTC, in a sense.)
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by glenneroo on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:38PM (#27733190)
Just donated, thanks for the tip! (and for anyone wondering, yes that BTC address is correct, I triple-checked).
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by jers on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:51PM (#27733241)
Thanks for checking but probably best if everyone double checks for themselves too.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by enriquto on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:45PM (#27733220)
Cool! Never used bitcoin, but that may be the first time if I figure out how to do it.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by maroonblazer on Sunday July 04, 2021 @08:45PM (#27733794)
Me either. I took this opportunity to take the plunge.

I had a Coinbase account already from years ago but never linked it to any payment source. At the time the only options were my bank account, which didn't sit well with me.

Now PayPal is an option, which is also linked to my bank account, but the one level of indirection made me a bit less hesitant. Also, the combination of Coinbase and PayPal seems low(er) risk to me.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by xkcd-sucks on Sunday July 04, 2021 @10:52PM (#27734262)
Just FYI coinbase will ban you for "illegal" transactions which may include "copyright infringement"
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by maroonblazer on Sunday July 04, 2021 @11:43PM (#27734463)
ISPs make the same claim.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by breck on Sunday July 04, 2021 @05:30PM (#27732780)
We need to start organizing and go on the offensive: abolish copyright and patents through a constitutional amendment— http://www.breckyunits.com/the-intellectual-freedom-amendmen...

If you’re wondering how to get the public to support it, we need to start spreading the truth. The opioid crisis kicked off by Purdue? Wouldn’t have happened without USPTO. Big tech monopolists? They get their monopoly power from IS laws. The list goes and on. IS laws choke the flow of information through the nervous system of the world and we feel it’s consequences all over the place.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by syshum on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:39PM (#27733488)
For the US, the fast path would be to push for all Federally Funded Research to be published under a Public Domain License, no different than NASA Images, recordings, or other public agency created research.

We need to extend those provisions to include all research that gets federal tax money

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by ta988 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @09:20PM (#27733927)
Thod is already true for NIH funded research after a one year embargo. But yes I would support that. Authors have to sign away the rights to their own texts and pictures to publishers! not just sharing rights like you do when putting a.picture on twitter, no... giving your full rights...
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by nhooyr on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:53PM (#27733253)
What is IS law?
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by greyface- on Sunday July 04, 2021 @09:42PM (#27734021)
It seems to stand for "Intellectual Slavery": https://hn.algolia.com/?q=by%3Abreck%20%22intellectual%20sla...
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by SV_BubbleTime on Sunday July 04, 2021 @05:37PM (#27732824)
Linking to your own website is fine and all, but not exactly a reference.

And it’s hilariously short sighted. Without patent and copywrite protections, you’ll instantly see innovation come out of places where people are paid for their work. US offloading it’s manufacturing in a short sighted move to cheap labor and head-in-sand environmental outlook - sure, let’s kill the design industries too now too.

There is a problem with how papers are shared and the orgs that control archiving and release. That doesn’t mean all patents must be thrown out.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by mbar84 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:11PM (#27733035)
The balance of cost and benefits is not as clear as you may think.

https://questioncopyright.org/ http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/against.htm

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by jazzyjackson on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:27PM (#27733133)
If going patent-free is good enough for the transistor…

Do you have any rebuttal to parent’s points on Purdue and tech monopolies?

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by TheOtherHobbes on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:45PM (#27733217)
Yes, of course.

Do you really think drug cartels need the IPTO? Or that the opioid crisis couldn't possibly have happened if the opioids had been generics?

Who has an IP monopoly on alcohol production? Is alcohol addition a huge problem, or not?

Why do you believe tech monopolies rely specifically on patents and not on massive spending power, political leverage, and other influencing mechanisms?

Do you not understand that if you have the spending power, you can open-source your code and IP without even remotely endangering that monopoly?

The reality is that patents are a relatively tiny element in cost of entry to markets.

It's honestly baffling why the anti-copyright crowd believes removing patents and copyright will be some kind of magic bus ride to utopia, when there is no rational reason whatsoever to believe that.

And none of this has much to do with making scientific papers public domain - because that isn't even the same class of issue.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by breck on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:22PM (#27733426)
> Do you really think drug cartels need the IPTO?

The legal ones do, absolutely.

> Or that the opioid crisis couldn't possibly have happened if the opioids had been generics?

"get an audience for our patent infringement suits so that we are feared as a tiger with claws, teeth and balls, and build some excitement with prescribers that OxyContin Tablets is the way to go." Richard Sackler in a 1996 email. I do not see OxyContin situations in a world with intellectual freedom, no. No government enforced monopoly profits, no massive incentive to overprescribe and lie. No copyright, and you get far more honest media, education, and healthcare industries.

> Who has an IP monopoly on alcohol production? Is alcohol addition a huge problem, or not?

Maybe it's far more of a problem that is generally known, but that truth is not made apparent because we don't have true freedom of the press b/c of copyright laws.

> Why do you believe tech monopolies rely specifically on patents

On patents and copyrights. If we were to declare tomorrow that search engines did not have to respect copyright law, we would see far better search engines than Google in a year or less.

> The reality is that patents are a relatively tiny element in cost of entry to markets.

Patents deter a huge number of startups from forming. Nearly every successful startup I know of gets targetted by patent trolls, and must decide to play that game and go along with the system. This is very discouraging to a huge number of innovators, especially in critical fields like chip design.

> It's honestly baffling why the anti-copyright crowd believes removing patents and copyright will be some kind of magic bus ride to utopia, when there is no rational reason whatsoever to believe that.

Not a magical bus ride to utopia, but a doubling to perhaps 10x increase in human productivity and equality, yes.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by shagie on Sunday July 04, 2021 @08:45PM (#27733791)
> On patents and copyrights. If we were to declare tomorrow that search engines did not have to respect copyright law, we would see far better search engines than Google in a year or less.

If copyright was abolished, the GPL and all open source would lose all its teeth.

The photographs that I took and have up on the web (all rights reserved) could be printed and sold without me seeing a dime.

The people who write books on here (and then have to fight to keep people from doing on demand pirating of them) would be given a big shrug when they try to go after them in court for copyright infringement.

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Its possible to argue about the term of the copyrights on different media or the threshold for what is novel for a patent... but trying to remove copyrights completely disincentives people who are creating material that is protected with copyright from sharing their material.

And let's face it... you'd have to rewrite the constitution to get rid of them. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 8.

> [The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

And they're right.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by TheDong on Sunday July 04, 2021 @11:17PM (#27734351)
> The people who write books on here (and then have to fight to keep people from doing on demand pirating of them) would be given a big shrug when they try to go after them in court for copyright infringement

Do any authors of books actually manage to prosecute piracy in a way that makes them money? As best I can tell, artists lose money paying for lawyers to litigate supposedly lost sales, but whether they actually lose sales is very questionable.

> The photographs that I took and have up on the web (all rights reserved) could be printed and sold without me seeing a dime.

Yup, which is good! You put them up on the web without expectation of making a dime, right? Cool. Your expectations are fulfilled, and someone gets a cool image too.

> trying to remove copyrights completely disincentives people who are creating material that is protected with copyright from sharing their material

And yet, the majority of people who post instagram images and tik-tok videos don't even realize their work is protected by copyright I'd wager, but they're still happy to share their material.

People who write open source code apply such a license specifically because they want to share the material more broadly than copyright would normally allow.

If removing copyright means that we end up with fewer people who are seeking a profit producing content and then praying on others who share and remix it, that seems good to me. We have plenty of people who are willing to produce content and be happy when other people enjoy it, use it, and share it.

If I wrote a book, I would be overjoyed to have people read it and copy it to share with their friends. It seems like a very dark mindset to think that a profit-motive is the primary reason someone might produce anything.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by jazzyjackson on Sunday July 04, 2021 @09:55PM (#27734073)
As much as I disagree with the notion of intellectual property, I think arguing about the meaning of the phrase "securing for limited times" is the strongest ticket we have, thanks for the tip.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by slim on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:18PM (#27733083)
I think if you are a researcher, you should publish directly on sci-hub (is that even possible?) Make sci-hub the greatest and most prestigious scientific publication
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by jeroenhd on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:24PM (#27733120)
I don't believe you can publish on Sci-Hub, but you can join the open access movement by publishing your work on sites such as Arxiv where anyone can read your work.

If every scientist published their work on open access platforms, Sci-Hub wouldn't need to exist in the first place.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by stavros on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:28PM (#27733452)
Why do people not do that? As far as I know, publishing in Arxiv is as simple as uploading the PDF, so I'm wondering why scientists don't do that themselves by default.

Does anyone know?

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by aabaker99 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @08:10PM (#27733643)
Some journals rules prohibit submitting to arxiv. Researchers still want to submit their research to these journals because they are prestigious. One of the main goals of researchers is prestige (for their work to be widely read, for getting grants, for attracting grad students and post doc laborers, etc.).
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by prawn on Sunday July 04, 2021 @09:06PM (#27733874)
Are there any efforts to work against journals doing that?
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by aabaker99 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @09:51PM (#27734055)
TFA links to http://thecostofknowledge.com/

which is an attempt to organize researchers to boycott Elsevier due to its practices. Elsevier is one of the journal publishers that has (or had) issues with preprints like arvix. I do think efforts like this are gaining traction, such as the agreement between the UC system and Elsevier mentioned at https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/03/california-universit...

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by ta988 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @09:22PM (#27733934)
to not publish, review for them or be part of their editorial board anymore. really easy. and there are always other venues.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by a_bonobo on Sunday July 04, 2021 @10:47PM (#27734253)
Speaking as a biologist working in Australia:

1) Older collaborators with more power are being 'scared' of getting scooped when they post preprints. They're slowly coming around as the argument makes no real sense, preprint = published to the younger generation.

2) Funding bodies, i.e. the people who pay our bills and have all the power. The Australian Research Council, the biggest non-medical funding body here, does not allow mentions of preprints in grant applications. They give no reason for that rule.

3) Again, money. You want your research to go into the journal with the highest impact factor since that mostly decides whether you get to keep your job, get that new position, or get that grant. Some journals still don't allow preprints. You also get no feedback when a top journal rejects your paper, could the rejection be because others have seen your preprint, published papers built on top of the preprint, and now your paper submitted to the journal is not so novel any more? You have no way of telling.

4) Fear. Sometimes, after your paper has undergone peer review it's a little bit better. A few select people see the embarrassing errors in your paper and help you fix them before the paper is widely accessible. If you post a preprint the world sees your glaring errors.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by stavros on Monday July 05, 2021 @03:55AM (#27735564)
When you say journals don't allow preprint, do you mean they don't let you publish if you've published on Arxiv? Can you not post the preprint and submit to a journal for peer review? Isn't that the best of both worlds?

If there are changes to your paper due to peer review, can you post the changes to Arxiv too later?

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by a_bonobo on Monday July 05, 2021 @10:33PM (#27743725)
Yes, some journals will desk-reject your submission if it's on arxiv/biorxiv.

If you not post the preprint and submit, you're defeating the purpose of preprints, isn't it? We're back to square one!

Normally yeah, people submit an updated preprint based on peer reviewers' comments. Biorxiv has a nice 'see the newest version of this paper' button for that.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by Fomite on Sunday July 04, 2021 @10:08PM (#27734115)
In medicine/public health/etc. there are two reasons:

1) medRxiv was relatively new, and while the COVID-19 pandemic was its moment, there are a lot of concerns about pre-peer review stuff, and the public, press, etc. not treating it with appropriate caution.

2) Some journals heavily penalize or won't consider preprints, and some of these journals are quite good. This has gotten a little pushback recently as well.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by spindle on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:57PM (#27733576)
FWIW, I once backed off publishing on Arxiv because their requirements for the exact format of my PDF were too restrictive. At the time I didn't feel stronly about it one way or the other, and if I was in the same situation maybe I'd persevere. But it would have taken an enormous amount of time to reformat my large and complicated PDF. I've heard the same complaint from others.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by ivalm on Sunday July 04, 2021 @08:13PM (#27733662)
You need to upload the original tex and somehow it always took some tweaking to get it to compile relative to my local setup. But yes, it’s a low barrier.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by thrdbndndn on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:40PM (#27733196)
> most prestigious

The existing "prestigious" journals are prestigious because of the peer-reviewing process. How do we solve this problem with Sci-hub? I mean, you can publish your research anywhere (like your homepage) already if you choose to.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by 542458 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:22PM (#27733424)
It’s not really the peer review process that makes them prestigious. The peer review process employed by world-class journals doesn’t guarantee good science (see: all sorts of high profile retractions). And it’s not really a complicated system - it’s easy to clone, as the procedures are all public and the important players are all volunteers.

But cloning the top journals’ peer review process wouldn’t make you a top journal. Many mid and low tier publications use the same peer review process as the high tier ones.

It’s more of a bit of a tautology: the most prestigious journals are the most prestigious because they’re seen as the most prestigious - which means they get all the best submissions, the best people volunteer to be organizers, speakers, reviewers, and people pay attention to their proceedings increasing their citation numbers.

This makes it a fairly self-sustaining system. It also makes it hard to break into. It’s no coincidence that the “best” publications also tend to be the oldest.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by cinquemb on Sunday July 04, 2021 @11:43PM (#27734462)
> This makes it a fairly self-sustaining system. It also makes it hard to break into. It’s no coincidence that the “best” publications also tend to be the oldest.

I think that this is also means that it will be slow moving and very fragile to a new system that could incentivize people to undertake all the listed actions above that don't go thru/reliant upon the traditional process.

Not saying that we are there yet, nor do I think willingly choosing to submit to any particular jurisdiction in hopes of a favorable outcome will have much effect in the long run (I think systems really change when old systems that served similar functions in some capacity are made obsolete), but as long as tech becomes cheaper, more people become knowledge able about the system as a whole and the incentives involved, more ways of pursuing research will emerge that will be more resilient than hoping for nation state judiciary approval.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by slim on Sunday July 04, 2021 @08:06PM (#27733623)
That's why I think there's a chance for sci-hub to disrupt this. It's already doing great marketing-wise and attracting a lot of great researchers. If some of those researchers donate their research and their time to peer review - in protest against the current monopoly - it could be disrupted.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by thrdbndndn on Sunday July 04, 2021 @08:25PM (#27733712)
Point taken.

I think ultimately the problem of academia publication isn't the openness of access (which obviously is good if we can have), but the whole system as you mentioned.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by aritmo on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:42PM (#27733206)
You can just publish to a relevant journal, and make the PDF available easily to Sci-Hub. As in, put the PDF on your homepage along with the DOI so that Sci-Hub can easily pick up.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by smt88 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:19PM (#27733095)
This would be wonderfully altruistic, but it would be career suicide as well.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by enriquto on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:37PM (#27733187)
This is simply not true. The world has changed a lot the last 10 years. In many scientific fields, you are actually expected to publish your "preprint" in the open and also your source code.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by 542458 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:11PM (#27733365)
In what fields are you expected to publish your source code? In the fields I’ve interacted with it was always an “above and beyond” thing that nobody would raise an eye at you not doing.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by enriquto on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:19PM (#27733411)
i was thinking about image processing or machine learning, but i'm sure this is the case in other fields as well. Reproducible research is a "hot topic" in many places, and for good reasons.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by ta988 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @09:23PM (#27733938)
ecology, more and more biology, chemistry...
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by smt88 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @10:43PM (#27734235)
That's not at all the same as the proposal I was replying to.

They seemed to be saying that people should only publish in Sci-Hub, making it a prestigious publication (that would appear in press releases, one assumes) instead of just a mirror.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by rhizome on Sunday July 04, 2021 @10:20PM (#27734157)
>How can we help her? Does she need money, public support, vpns in every country? Whatever she needs, mankind is indebted to her and we should help if we can.

Pool money with everybody you know and hire a lobbyist.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by juanani on Sunday July 04, 2021 @05:58PM (#27732957)
Yeah, there's this stain of an empire that we just can't easily scrub off the planet. Just don't worry about it and keep feeding it.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by cogburnd02 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @07:24PM (#27733438)
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by chrisseaton on Monday July 05, 2021 @05:16AM (#27735976)
> She's just 32 years old.

Weird thing to say - like you think 32 is a child or something? That’s someone well into their second decade of adulthood.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by Iv on Sunday July 04, 2021 @11:10PM (#27734323)
I feel that her case is exactly what presidential pardons are about.

Otherwise, write to whatever lawmaker represents you to talk about it, to ask for a change of law and to support asylum for her if she ever asks it. But for now Russia seems to protect her.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by Iv on Sunday July 04, 2021 @11:12PM (#27734331)
How about that: starting a campaign to nominate her to a nobel prize. I am not sure at which she would qualify the most, but I am sure there are no shortage of academics to sing her praises (this is a condition for nomination)
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by revscat on Sunday July 04, 2021 @06:33PM (#27733166)
It is important up understand that the laws are such that “justice” is equated with “maximizing capital”, as cynical as it is to say, and as such any financial support given to those who fight such a system will inevitably prove to be gestures without much effect. She may attempt to better humanity, but the neoliberal capitalism that permeates all governments, west to east, will stand against her for the primary reason that she interferes with increasing capital. She has no allies with any political power, however we may wish differently.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by acomar on Sunday July 04, 2021 @09:43PM (#27734027)
it's one industry while others stand to reduce costs if she succeeds. the relatively warm welcome she receives here should indicate how willing other bourgeois segments are to support her platform. free access to information is not by itself anticapitalist, though it sure does make it easier. but recuperation is ever a threat (free software vs open source for a topical example).
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by revscat on Sunday July 04, 2021 @11:21PM (#27734373)
When she fails — and she will — ask yourself why she failed. The answer will be couched in legal tenets, but the underlying fact remains that the intent of the law is to protect existing capital, at all costs. This is true from Washington to Beijing, from London to Johannesburg.
Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by acomar on Tuesday July 06, 2021 @08:50AM (#27747792)
this is a poor analysis. different factions of capital frequently go to war with each other - always over the question of who gets to profit. (in fact, in the final analysis, these irreconcileable schisms within the bourgeoisie are a necessary, though insufficient, precursor to revolution.)

I agree with you that she will probably fail but I think that's more about this project moreso than whether this project hurts capital. remember, the true point of vulnerability of the system is the point at which wages are paid and profits are earned. labor must strike to starve capital because anything else can be recuperated and commidified.

lastly, yes, the intent of the law is to preserve existing capital, but as this board can attest, "existing capital" is a term constantly in flux, and laws change quickly to support the changing makeup of capital. otherwise, what has happened with uber would be impossible as governments fought to protect taxi companies - this happened but now uber no longer resides in a gray area. you'll note that what actually happened here was that finance capital extended it's reach and no new capital was actually created - it merely changed forms. that should also tell you how scihub might go from blacksheep of the bourgeois family to darling, especially once it's purchased and brought under the aegis of existing capital entities. however, for this to happen, Alexandra must play ball with investors, the legal system, etc., and as she has thus far resisted doing so, she will likely fail. projects like hers must either have secret and undiscoverable provenance, or be so distributed that legal force can only be brought to bear on a multitude of actors of no significance to the operation of the project - the hydra with many heads.

so it's not legal tenets I look to but rather an analysis of capital itself.

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by Sr_developer on Sunday July 04, 2021 @08:55PM (#27733842)
These are my predictions:

1. She will be destroyed, one way or the other. Since she is eastern European the possibilities are vastless: Russian asset/ Spy/ Dangerous Hacker/ Covert Operation/ Putin enabler, etc, etc

2. Expect hundreds of "insightful" comments on here how she was actually wrong because X, Y, Z, the same points produced by mainstream media and the establishment politicians.

3. She will be shunned, forgotten and even jailed if she puts a foot in a "wrong" country, and by that I mean 80% of earth,

Re:Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time? by kspacewalk2 on Sunday July 04, 2021 @09:48PM (#27734043)
It's well known that she's illiberal, in favour of a "strong state" like those of Russia and her native Kazakhstan, and probably had the usual views you expect from such people on matters like electing one's leaders in free elections, LGBT rights, Stalin, etc. If I were trying to discredit her, I'd dig in that direction.