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Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by pen2l on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @12:21AM (#27684828)
In the same way a lot of products have become cheaper because of some process optimization (packaged more compactly to reduce transportation costs), I'm excited to see modular homes/home 3d-printing etc. play out and become cheaper over time until they are more affordable than convention home construction or somehow unique and better in ways that conventionally constructed homes cannot be.

To answer your question, one possible target customer is the rich (wo)man who wants a cabin house far away but something more comfortable than a cabin house.

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by shalmanese on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:18AM (#27686216)
The substack Construction Physics has an excellent overview of the now 100 year failed promise of modular building and the eternal cycles of the exact same value props being pitched in ambitious efforts to reform construction and why conventional construction has refused to be disrupted.

Some great posts are:

https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/building-componen...

https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/operation-breakth...

https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/construction-effi...

https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/book-review-indus...

https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/industrialized-bu...

Despite this, he's cautiously excited about some of the potential future industrialized systems such as Foldable Buildings https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/folding-at-home 3D printing https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/3d-printed-buildi... Plywood Systems https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/facit-homes-wikih... And Broad Homes https://constructionphysics.substack.com/p/broad-group-part-...

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by EricE on Thursday July 01, 2021 @10:40AM (#27699470)
In what you linked first, his criticisms are (rightly) directed towards pre-fabed concrete. That's not this system.

This is a folded system - exactly what you indicate he's cautiously excited about. As am I. Let me link together two or three of those modules - say a living room/kitchen/laundry and two bedroom/bathroom modules. Would be perfect!

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by blueblisters on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @07:42AM (#27687328)
Thanks for sharing these links! I was looking for an analysis of B-Core from Broad and I finally found one.

Although I don't quite understand why they initially excited about B-Core but later call it poorly thought out. Is it because of the cost of stainless steel?

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by brudgers on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @12:57AM (#27685030)
If you are rich, there are a lot of options that are likely to better cater to your richness. Or why build a 50k shed on a million dollar piece of ground?
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by tim333 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @03:56AM (#27686084)
In Elon's case so you can have a few hundred on the not very expensive land at Starbase Texas.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by brudgers on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @01:27PM (#27691186)
As always, the premise is “you should” not “I should.”
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by j45 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @07:18AM (#27687205)
Savings of time to build and use, can be removed as easily as it’s deployed.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by brudgers on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @01:29PM (#27691219)
$50k will buy a reasonably nice RV that includes wheels and a hitch and such options abound.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by EricE on Thursday July 01, 2021 @10:41AM (#27699478)
RV's have a ton of compromises to make them light that do not restrict this solution.

There is simply no comparison. Buying an RV to park it permanently would be daft.

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by j45 on Thursday July 01, 2021 @01:42PM (#27701979)
RVs have much higher maintenance. Maybe Tiny homes would be an alternative.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by robotresearcher on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @02:16AM (#27685504)
> (wo)man

'Person' is the non-gendered word that goes here.

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by 0xfaded on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:12AM (#27686186)
In old English man was gender neutral. Wer, as in werewolf, was the masculine. World comes from Wor-old, or literally, age of males.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by zimpenfish on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:26AM (#27686271)
Are there any countries or communities that currently use "old English" as their native language?
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by dkdbejwi383 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @08:30AM (#27687657)
No, that's why we call it "old" English, as opposed to "South-African", "New Zealand", etc.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by zimpenfish on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:16AM (#27688106)
> No, that's why we call it "old" English

Which surely means it has little relevance to a conversation about modern English then, no?

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by Ensorceled on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @07:32AM (#27687283)
Pedant comes from French or Italian and meant teacher or schoolmaster.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by UncleMeat on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @08:19AM (#27687560)
We know. But language shifts.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by wombatpm on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @02:20AM (#27685526)
But with ‘son’ in the word doesn’t it’s usage continue to promote the patriarchy?
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by dkdbejwi383 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @02:27AM (#27685560)
No, “Son” as in “male child” is derived from Porto-Germanic “Sunnus”, “person” as in “human being” is derived from Latin “persona”. It’s just a coincidence that in modern English we write them with the same characters.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by spijdar on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:00AM (#27686111)
There are some (fringe?) groups who'd argue against this, evidenced by variant spellings like "womxn" and "womyn" that are attested since the 70s, in order to remove "man" from the words. Different in that "woman" is etymologically an extension of the word "man", but somewhat absurd because the etymological root was gender neutral, with a separate word attested for "masculine" man.

Point being, perception of a word can be more meaningful to some people than the historical meaning.

Good 'ole prescriptive vs descriptive linguistics...

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by dkdbejwi383 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:12AM (#27686190)
This kind of thinking, linguistic relativity - that the words available to you shape your worldview - is not really held in high regard as I understand it. At least not in the hard sense, where one is completely unable to conceptualise something because they don't have the words to express it.

For example, some have claimed that if we had no separate terms for "man and woman", "male and female", etc, we'd be unable to perceive a difference between the two.

> the etymological root was gender neutral, with a separate word attested for "masculine" man

For anyone playing at home, this is "were" or "wer". The phrase "man and woman" would once have been something like "were and wif", which is where the "were-" in "werewolf" comes from, and is the ancestor of "wife".

If we want English to be more gender-neutral, we could revert to werman, wifman and man.

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by spijdar on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:51AM (#27686401)
Oh, for sure. I didn't mean to suggest it's a common or respected belief, only that there are some who support it.

(and probably more who use examples of it in bad faith arguments presuming that such groups exist in larger numbers, e.g. "look at those crazy feminists!")

> If we want English to be more gender-neutral, we could revert to werman, wifman and man.

There's a part of me that loves this idea, even if I recognize the absurdity of suggesting it. I guess it's made more sense to me than trying to replace a large portion of English vocab en masse, like all the vocational terms ending in "-man".

A curious example of a Germanic cousin of English that underwent the same "masculinization" of the word man but "came back" is Swedish, where the word "man" means "adult male", but is also used as a neuter pronoun meaning "generic person" (usually translated as "one" in English).

As far as I know the other Nordic languages didn't develop this usage, but I'm less familiar with them.

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by dkdbejwi383 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @05:10AM (#27686490)
> A curious example of a Germanic cousin of English that underwent the same "masculinization" of the word man but "came back" is Swedish, where the word "man" means "adult male", but is also used as a neuter pronoun meaning "generic person" (usually translated as "one" in English).

We sort of have this in English too: "That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind". Although I can't think of any cases where we use "man" alone to mean "one".

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by carlhjerpe on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:36AM (#27688339)
"That's one small step for a person, one giant leap for personkind"

Time to rewrite the history books! (1984 anyone?)

"_Man_ borde inte tvinga andra att anpassa sig efter en skrikig minoritet" (_One_ should not force others to conform to a loudmouthed minority)

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by developer93 on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @07:05AM (#27687128)
Also German, kinda: Man darf nicht.. Frau/Mann
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by teekert on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @04:08AM (#27686163)
I guess you can find fringe groups against anything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by kozak on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @08:55AM (#27687884)
In my native language (Ukrainian), the word "person" (людина) is always feminine. Even if someone wanted to say "I'm a very masculine person", they would still need to use a feminine form of the word "masculine" to say "masculine person". And no one has ever had any issues with that, ever.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by carlhjerpe on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @09:32AM (#27688293)
That would probably be because It's just a superficial issue for people with too much time and money on their hands to enforce their ways upon others.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by jaclaz on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @01:13PM (#27691021)
In Italian (which shares I believe no common roots with Ukrainan) it is the same, "person" (persona) is always feminine, and of course goes with feminine articles and adjectives are conjugated at the feminine gender and as well noone ever had issues with that.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by kozak on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @01:29PM (#27691221)
Yes, it is the same thing. Italian and Ukrainian belong to the same language family (Indo-European), so they are distantly related.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by jaclaz on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @01:43PM (#27691394)
Well, quite distantly I believe, I mean Slavic vs. Latin/Romance languages.
Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by runawaybottle on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @12:35AM (#27684907)
Maybe people in hurricane and flood zones? If you insist on living there, might as well live in a disposable house (Possibly want to get the price lower than 50k).

Small aside, I just looked up what houses look like in other parts of the world. Very few look like houses found in the US.

Re:Modular Homes for Under $50k by akomtu on Wednesday June 30, 2021 @03:57AM (#27686093)
That's a contrived example. I assume someone rich would hire a construction firm to make a fancy treehouse.

The target audience for these are squeezed between owners of trailer parks and cheap shacks.