Just FYI, 'conservative investors' do understand crypto, they just think it's a bad investment.

I doubt that you can make that as a blanket statement, either. There are probably plenty of conservative investors who do include some cryptos as part of a well-balanced asset allocation. It is, after all, starting to make plenty of inroads into the mainstream financial industry.

What you don't see much of is conservative investors who are super hot on crypto. Not necessarily because of anything about crypto, per se, so much as because part of being a conservative investor is that you don't really get super hot on anything.

Yes, one must also include some powerball tickets and horse racing bets for a truly well balanced portfolio.

Also: beanie babies.

I would say 95% of investors don't understand crypto, whether they have high or low risk tolerance. But high risk tolerance investors are more likely to invest in something that has momentum without understanding the fundamentals. Betting with the momentum is often a good strategy.

Change that to "95% of crypto investors don't understand crypto" and you've got it.

Betting with the momentum works unless (A) you're a latecomer to a ponzi scheme, or (B) there's a reversion that catalyzes longstanding doubt about an asset that has enjoyed a bull run. Both of these cases may well be applicable to a large portion of the overall crypto marketplace.

More simply: "Betting with the momentum works until it tanks."

Or (C) you don't have a crystal ball that tells you when to get out before the inevitable collapse.

Tell that to investors in Fitbit or Palantir (for example) before they sold off after having good "momentum". Crypto investors don't even understand crypto, but that doesn't mean anything, because you can be left holding a long term bag whether you understand the underlying asset or not.

If you actually understand a "momentum" asset, you will definitely not be left holding the bag.

If you actually understand "investing" you will understand that you can't beat the indexes and are doomed to failure by trying to use "momentum" to do anything other than lose money.

Please elaborate?

"Momentum" is bullshit reasoning to buy anything as volatile as crypto. The only reason investors struggle with crypto is because it has no "fundamentals" to analyze.

Is Munger a "conservative investor". Here is what he said recently.

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/charlie-munger-crypto-whole-...

A good number of them think the covid vacciene has micro chip tracking and you want me to beleive they understand crypto?

Certainly not all of them. Edit - do you not consider Warren Buffet a conservative investor?

It doesn't seem like he's invested in any crypto directly. He has investments in some fintech, but as far as I can tell those aren't in any companies where crypto is the main component of their business plan. It's also important to distinguish between his opinions on the potential of distribute ledger technology vs. crypto currencies themselves. You can have the first without the second.

There are also levels of conservatism: Buffet still takes risks. In any given year, there's a possibility that he loses money, even if he's amazing in the long term. This is very far from the extreme end of conservative investing where, for example, someone 2-3 years away from retirement shifts all of their investments into a low-yield guaranteed return investment to ensure that a temporary downturn in the economy doesn't wreck their ability to retire.

Do you think Warren Buffett doesn't understand crypto from the standpoint of finance?

Warren Buffett has, on several occasions, stated that he does not understand cryptocurrencies.

I think he does and I think he's found a way to make money in crypto, even though he previously stated he thinks it will end badly

Or your definition of conservative is different from OP's.

Most people claiming they understand (risk, tradeoffs, market, actual adoption) cryptocurrencies are lying to themselves. It's easier to buy $KWEB than read an article written by Vitalik Buterin.

> Just FYI, 'conservative investors' do understand crypto, they just think it's a bad investment.

That statement is demonstrably false. There are two reasons to not be invested in cryptocurrencies at this point in history. You are either ignorant of the technology (which is fine, lots of more important knowledge out there), or it doesn't fit your current risk profile.

There is not a knowledgeable person on the planet who would say that any investment in any cryptocurrency is bad for all investors.

Or you simply don't believe in it. Which is a perfectly valid reason. Not everyone is just either ignorant or risk averse for crypto.

As an liberal investor, all crypto is a pump and dump scheme pushing magic internet money. But we've all seen this debate before.

if anyone pushes you on blockchain-anything or cryptocurrency, deliver unto them a kick to the groin, or a punch to the face, then run away. for you have been targeted by thieves.

edit: later I am proud to have been downvoted by blockchain bozos.

1. What's so bad about magic internet money?

2. What sectors are you invested in that are somehow immune to hype cycles?

It’s not that it’s hyped, it’s the large scale and empty essence of the hype. The essence is “it’ll go to 500k”. It’s an echo chamber of get rich for nothing excitement.

I use fin.yahoo quite a bit and if this were to occur I would quit using it full stop.

Yahoo Finance already tracks the cryptocurrencies. Has for ages. You can also integrate in exchanges to buy stocks, wouldn't be hard to add crypto to that. BTW, you can't buy DOGE-USD on Coinbase. Here it is in my wife's portfolio:

https://i.imgur.com/MZlE51m.png

"Portfolio", holding DOGE is about the same as holding lottery tickets.

Hey she wanted some for valentines day. It is up 8x right now, but yeah, it is a meme lottery ticket for sure.

I am not sure Yahoo finance is the right place for this kind of integration. If they were to integrate buy/sell and portfolio it would be more of a plaid style where you can connect your existing broker. You would lose a bunch of users who don't want to switch to coinbase. This is why i was thinking a media company would make sense for the media asset. It should be something more neutral.

> DOGE-USD, that they have a one-click opportunity to buy it off Coinbase's exchange.

nitpick: you cannot buy Doge off Coinbase even with 10,000 clicks.

>”magic Internet money”

>DOGE

Not really helping your case here

I love this idea. Thanks for sharing!