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Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by throwaway3699 on Monday May 03, 2021 @01:26PM (#27027972)
Just FYI, 'conservative investors' do understand crypto, they just think it's a bad investment.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by mumblemumble on Monday May 03, 2021 @06:23PM (#27031601)
I doubt that you can make that as a blanket statement, either. There are probably plenty of conservative investors who do include some cryptos as part of a well-balanced asset allocation. It is, after all, starting to make plenty of inroads into the mainstream financial industry.

What you don't see much of is conservative investors who are super hot on crypto. Not necessarily because of anything about crypto, per se, so much as because part of being a conservative investor is that you don't really get super hot on anything.

Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by jjeaff on Monday May 03, 2021 @10:07PM (#27033323)
Yes, one must also include some powerball tickets and horse racing bets for a truly well balanced portfolio.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by fuzquat on Monday May 03, 2021 @10:26PM (#27033432)
Also: beanie babies.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by ErikVandeWater on Monday May 03, 2021 @05:47PM (#27031164)
I would say 95% of investors don't understand crypto, whether they have high or low risk tolerance. But high risk tolerance investors are more likely to invest in something that has momentum without understanding the fundamentals. Betting with the momentum is often a good strategy.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by totalZero on Monday May 03, 2021 @06:04PM (#27031387)
Change that to "95% of crypto investors don't understand crypto" and you've got it.

Betting with the momentum works unless (A) you're a latecomer to a ponzi scheme, or (B) there's a reversion that catalyzes longstanding doubt about an asset that has enjoyed a bull run. Both of these cases may well be applicable to a large portion of the overall crypto marketplace.

Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by WalterBright on Monday May 03, 2021 @09:50PM (#27033227)
More simply: "Betting with the momentum works until it tanks."
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by jjeaff on Monday May 03, 2021 @10:08PM (#27033334)
Or (C) you don't have a crystal ball that tells you when to get out before the inevitable collapse.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by TaupeRanger on Monday May 03, 2021 @06:38PM (#27031770)
Tell that to investors in Fitbit or Palantir (for example) before they sold off after having good "momentum". Crypto investors don't even understand crypto, but that doesn't mean anything, because you can be left holding a long term bag whether you understand the underlying asset or not.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by andrewprock on Monday May 03, 2021 @10:45PM (#27033534)
If you actually understand a "momentum" asset, you will definitely not be left holding the bag.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by TaupeRanger on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @06:46AM (#27036074)
If you actually understand "investing" you will understand that you can't beat the indexes and are doomed to failure by trying to use "momentum" to do anything other than lose money.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by 55555 on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @12:50AM (#27034179)
Please elaborate?
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by nly on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @04:40AM (#27035313)
"Momentum" is bullshit reasoning to buy anything as volatile as crypto. The only reason investors struggle with crypto is because it has no "fundamentals" to analyze.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by 1vuio0pswjnm7 on Monday May 03, 2021 @07:27PM (#27032219)
Is Munger a "conservative investor". Here is what he said recently.

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/charlie-munger-crypto-whole-...

Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by williamtwild on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @06:05AM (#27035755)
A good number of them think the covid vacciene has micro chip tracking and you want me to beleive they understand crypto?
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by mssundaram on Monday May 03, 2021 @02:32PM (#27028914)
Certainly not all of them. Edit - do you not consider Warren Buffet a conservative investor?
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by ineedasername on Monday May 03, 2021 @05:10PM (#27030687)
It doesn't seem like he's invested in any crypto directly. He has investments in some fintech, but as far as I can tell those aren't in any companies where crypto is the main component of their business plan. It's also important to distinguish between his opinions on the potential of distribute ledger technology vs. crypto currencies themselves. You can have the first without the second.

There are also levels of conservatism: Buffet still takes risks. In any given year, there's a possibility that he loses money, even if he's amazing in the long term. This is very far from the extreme end of conservative investing where, for example, someone 2-3 years away from retirement shifts all of their investments into a low-yield guaranteed return investment to ensure that a temporary downturn in the economy doesn't wreck their ability to retire.

Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by IncRnd on Monday May 03, 2021 @05:26PM (#27030898)
Do you think Warren Buffett doesn't understand crypto from the standpoint of finance?
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by px43 on Monday May 03, 2021 @06:49PM (#27031900)
Warren Buffett has, on several occasions, stated that he does not understand cryptocurrencies.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by mssundaram on Monday May 03, 2021 @06:26PM (#27031630)
I think he does and I think he's found a way to make money in crypto, even though he previously stated he thinks it will end badly
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by nappy-doo on Monday May 03, 2021 @02:47PM (#27029087)
Or your definition of conservative is different from OP's.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by ketamine__ on Monday May 03, 2021 @03:59PM (#27029932)
Most people claiming they understand (risk, tradeoffs, market, actual adoption) cryptocurrencies are lying to themselves. It's easier to buy $KWEB than read an article written by Vitalik Buterin.
Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by px43 on Monday May 03, 2021 @06:48PM (#27031889)
> Just FYI, 'conservative investors' do understand crypto, they just think it's a bad investment.

That statement is demonstrably false. There are two reasons to not be invested in cryptocurrencies at this point in history. You are either ignorant of the technology (which is fine, lots of more important knowledge out there), or it doesn't fit your current risk profile.

There is not a knowledgeable person on the planet who would say that any investment in any cryptocurrency is bad for all investors.

Re:Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B by fork1 on Monday May 03, 2021 @09:49PM (#27033219)
Or you simply don't believe in it. Which is a perfectly valid reason. Not everyone is just either ignorant or risk averse for crypto.