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Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by reader_mode on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @03:37AM (#25207126)
I spent some time reading GPT-3 reddit replies [1] and I'm impressed with the quality of writing - but the actual content is terrible IMO - it's like reading the most annoying people on forums - grasping at semantics etc. while they have nothing valuable or insightful to say. It just creates noise and writes for the sake of writing something.

It can say things, it just doesn't have anything valuable to say.

So asking GPT-3 random metaphysical questions gets you semi credible responses because those kinds of questions reduce to semantics and bullshit anyway.

I could see this as a layer that bridges some AI reasoning model and human language.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/user/thegentlemetre

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by ramblerman on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:38AM (#25207453)
It's ironic that in a lot of old school sci-fi the robots couldn't talk properly yet where completely sentient. Even Data couldn't do contractions.

Yet it seems we reached the opposite, a fully eloquent idiot.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by _petronius on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @05:53AM (#25207899)
Unnecessarily detailed nitpick: Data uses contractions throughout the dialogue of TNG -- there is just one episode ("Datalore" it might have been?) where they decide to make it a plot point that he doesn't use them as a way of having the rest of the bridge crew figure out that he's been replaced by his evil twin who can use contractions.

I'm pretty sure the plot point (and the ban on Data using contractions) doesn't even get a mention again in the rest of the series.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by surbas on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:08AM (#25208005)
Just saw the episode... so top of mind but in “Future Imperfect,” Data using a contraction is one the things that makes Riker realize he is in an illusion.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by cabaalis on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:55AM (#25208700)
Riker yelling at a bearded Picard to shut up is a good moment.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by ASalazarMX on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @01:28PM (#25212484)
Even when we knew he probably wasn't the real Picard, it was such a shock hearing Riker's STFU. One of my favorite scenes.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by bmn__ on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:00AM (#25208318)
> Unnecessarily detailed nitpick: Data uses contractions throughout the dialogue of TNG

If you noticed that on your own, you will very much enjoy http://www.nitcentral.com/shamplug/nextgen.htm

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by thelastwave on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:03PM (#25214256)
I don't know why they wouldn't have done it the other way round. Make Lore the one who couldn't use contractions (a fatal flaw!) which removes the dialog constraint on Data for the rest of the series.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by alisonkisk on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @09:22AM (#25209476)
It's not perfect but they do make an effort to avoid contractions in Data's dialog.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by ericlewis on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @10:19AM (#25210085)
never watched much TNG but I remember this episode!
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by user-the-name on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:46AM (#25208231)
If nothing else, this teaches us about the true value of eloquence.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by rini17 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:16AM (#25208061)
If/when they did, noone would believe them. Still, in Orwell's 1984 there's a mention of machine poetry generator for proles.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by jbaber on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:37AM (#25208554)
It also generated romance novels and sports pages. They were delightfully called 'prolefeed'.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by segfaultbuserr on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:28AM (#25208967)
I played many hours with AI Dungeon's GPT-3 based "Dungeon" model, instructing it to write sci-fi fan-fics. Its output never ceased to amaze me. It's junk by the standard of high literature, obviously. Yet, when you consider the number of bad fan-fics in existence, I'd say GPT-3 probably ranks high in a relative comparison, at least two order-of-magnitude better than my creativity (since its training data already included a huge collections of fictions, including web fan-fics and numerous text adventure games, and the job of GPT-3 is mixing and rewriting them, it shouldn't be a surprise).

I'm never a fan of the "AI" hype, but GPT-3 decidedly changed my mind. If I can be attracted to read, for hours, the meaningless stories generated by a mindless language model in an experimental stage - still, with a quality arguably outperforms many unskilled humans, I'd say I'm convinced that there are lots of promising applications of machine learning (for better or worse), even if it's only capable of feeding low-quality content to the people. 1984 got it right.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by bzzzt on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:46AM (#25209143)
We have that now. It's called mainstream pop music.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by ubercow13 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @09:22AM (#25209471)
No reason the AI composing tools have to be limited to pop music. All the most "authentic" types of music could be assisted by AI just the same way. I would have thought it would be particularly useful for things like scoring film and TV.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by alisonkisk on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @09:26AM (#25209505)
Scoring is tricky because the music has to be synced to the action. Once you've done all that feature engineering, it's just a small bit of work for the composer to score it. The AI bit is mostly useful in extrapolating detail from the melody to a MIDI orchestra.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by sp332 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @11:35AM (#25211032)
William Gibson predicted this kind of thing in Neuromancer. A superintelligent AI is divided into two pieces, the systems-thinking part and the personality.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by bbarnett on Thursday November 26, 2020 @05:29AM (#25218685)
I hate to break this to you, but humanity is quite filled with just this type of being. Able to speak eloquently, even put word to paper quite well, yet incapable of basic, logical thought.

"Politicians" come to mind first, of all stripes and types. Quite literally, speech + the ability to communicate seems to have little bearing on logic, deep thought, reasoning.

Even artists. Music, painting, these are things which communicate greatly. Yet some of these are devoid of all intelligent, capable thought.

Note that not all politicians, musicians, or artists fall into this category. It is merely that good artists, or politicians, need to communicate something, and well, else they cannot be effective at their primary profession.

So it is a good source of "can communicate well", where some of the sample is in the "but spews gibberish" category.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by throwaway_pdp09 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @05:15AM (#25207671)
> Even Data couldn't do contractions

Neither did my father (although English wasn't his first language, but still). I did find it very odd.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by npstr on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @02:05PM (#25212968)
Did you ever see Data and your father in the same room together?
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by rjyoungling on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @12:08PM (#25211461)
This comment made me laugh so hard! "Yet it seems we reached the opposite, a fully eloquent idiot."
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by ChefboyOG on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:45AM (#25208619)
It's important to keep in mind when reading anything about GPT-3 that the stated objective in training it wasn't to produce any kind of AGI, but specifically to see if a model could perform context-specific language tasks without first being fine-tuned to the specific context. For example, GPT-2 (GPT-3's predecessor) was originally used in AI Dungeon, but it first had to be fine-tuned on a large corpus of choose-your-own-adventure texts. GPT-3 doesn't need to be fine-tuned—it just works.

From the original paper:

"Here we show that scaling up language models greatly improves task-agnostic, few-shot performance, sometimes even reaching competitiveness with prior state-of-the-art fine-tuning approaches. Specifically, we train GPT-3, an autoregressive language model with 175 billion parameters, 10x more than any previous non-sparse language model, and test its performance in the few-shot setting. For all tasks, GPT-3 is applied without any gradient updates or fine-tuning, with tasks and few-shot demonstrations specified purely via text interaction with the model."

Of course, it makes sense that people critique GPT-3 in terms of its actual progress towards human-like intelligence, since every news publication writes about it like it's Skynet and OpenAI's stated goal is AGI. I do think, however, that we miss all the parts of GPT-3 that are exciting and innovative when we view it through the binary of "Is it really understanding as a human does?" (Not that you were reducing it to that, just speaking about the conversation around GPT-3 more broadly.)

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by reader_mode on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:30AM (#25208983)
I agree, and I'm impressed with the result quality - I expect that this approach is viable for creating something like a verbalisation layer for an AGI process.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by alisonkisk on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @09:59AM (#25209892)
How? By design, GPT has no model of the meaning of what it's saying. One of GPT's major tells is that it is so context-free that short passages will contain contradictory facts.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by derefr on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @11:44AM (#25211153)
I believe GPT has been demonstrated to be usable for machine translation of long passages without "losing the thread." As long as the input has structure, and GPT just has to "follow along" the structure of the input when generating the output, then it the output is structured intelligibly.

Also, I've seen GPT used in recursive fill-in-the-blanks approaches, where it does equally well, since the "skeleton" of its answer is already there.

I imagine the task of "translating" between natural language, and a set of expert-system assertion predicates (or vice-versa) would work very well for GPT, and be "scalable."

I'd love someone to go ahead and try this experiment, actually. It could potentially be meta-learnable in just a few prompts.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by inglor_cz on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @03:46AM (#25207183)
There are some real gems there, though:

"For example, in order for me to be 'born', my parents had to deprive themselves of their greatest happiness by having sex and conceiving me. They could have done something constructive with their time like, I don't know, doing philosophy or playing chess or studying physics."

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by BoorishBears on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:01AM (#25207252)
Every response looks like it's channeling Ben Shapiro. And I say this without any political tilt or slant, it just really resembles his style of speaking
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by antihero on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:38AM (#25208567)
Well yeah, GPT-3 is effectively an eloquent idiot, so has many similarities with Shapiro.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by js8 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:16AM (#25207340)
Hm, maybe he really is intelligent, but the facts and logic are missing...

FWIW, I do think that GPT3 is smarter than humans. But one thing I learned from observing it that being smarter does not necessarily mean being better with logic and facts. It's great as a storytelling system, and because it is so much smarter, you never know whether it is just BSing you in storytelling mode or it is actually deadly serious.

What I mean is GPT-3 probably could be very logical and very intelligent and give a very serious and intelligent answer to the question. But we don't really know if it really chooses to, or what could compel it to do so. And I don't think we can know, because its internal workings are incomprehensible to us. So we cannot decide whether it is just being stupid or it is just playing stupid. (Kinda like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Soldier_%C5%A0vejk )

This article, and the earlier article https://arr.am/2020/07/31/human-intelligence-an-ai-op-ed/ , really remind me of Lem's novel/essay Golem XIV, which argues that when the system becomes too much intelligent, it will gain its own will (whether it is self-aware of it or not) and attempts to have a meaningful dialogue with it become impossible.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by CraneWorm on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:48AM (#25207511)
What are you talking about. It's an amazing tool, sure, but "it" has no intelligence whatsoever.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by js8 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @05:20AM (#25207707)
> "it" has no intelligence whatsoever

I disagree. It easily passes a Turing test, one of the most famous definitions of intelligence.

What is your argument?

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by gattilorenz on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:31AM (#25208155)
Being the most famous does not mean it is a valid one... AI (and philosophy) moved away from it, and the Turing test is not really the focus of AI research.

It's surely touted by marketing companies that claim to have passed it (what does it even mean? How long can the conversation be? Is it enough to fool one people? Is it a person at random? One AI researcher? The smartest man in the world? A balanced sample of 500 people of all ages and education levels?)

As Russel and Norvig say, 'The quest for "artificial flight" succeeded when the Wright brothers and others stopped imitating birds and learned about aerodynamics. Aeronautical engineering texts do not define the goal of their field as making "machines that fly so exactly like pigeons that they can fool even other pigeons".' It's the same for the Turing test.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by zests on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:16AM (#25208059)
You can easily distinguish GPT-3 from a human. GPT-3 does not write like a human nor would it be able to respond to strange queries in a way that a human would. Its quite far from passing the Turing test.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by nl on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @05:32AM (#25207771)
I think GPT-3 is amazing, and the equal of humans in many cases. But I think that this is because in many cases humans speak based on reflex and without thought.

GPT-3 is incapable of abstract thought. In terms of actual measurable tests it doesn't pass the kinds of tests proposed in Francois Chollet's "On the Measure of Intelligence": https://arxiv.org/pdf/1911.01547.pdf

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by js8 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:12AM (#25208029)
> But I think that this is because in many cases humans speak based on reflex and without thought.

Maybe. Then the question is, why do we train a system that is supposed to be intelligent on such data?

The problem I see is this. Let's assume for a minute that GPT-3 really has the capability to be superintelligent (relative to humans). And you give it as an example to follow, human conversations or musings that do not always make logical sense. What is it supposed to do? The black box inside it can operate in one of two ways, either (1) it will play along and decrease its intelligence to our level and perfectly imitate the imperfections, or (2) it will just say that what we say is wrong and will not be able to really elaborate for the sake of conciseness (and perhaps it will only slightly hint at the arguments). Now, will we really think it is more intelligent if it does (2) instead of (1)? I am not sure about that.

Imagine yourself in a similar situation, by social circumstances you're forced to talk to somebody obviously stupid, perhaps in the position of authority over you. (Like, for example, a stupid policeman in a repressive regime.) And what he says is clearly wrong and illogical and so on. Will you just (1) nod in an agreement, or (2) try to invoke philosophers to actually argue with the idiot, and try to convince him? I think most intelligent people will actually choose (1) in that circumstance.

I think unless we really understand what is happening inside GPT-3, we cannot really tell whether it is really dumb or just playing dumb for the above reason. I think both are a possibility, because we know that systems with measurable outcome (for some problems) better than humans already exist. It might be true that GPT-3 fails on those measures, but we cannot exclude that it fails simply because we didn't train it for these tasks, or even for a task of "show its intelligence off". Maybe it "misunderstood" what we asked it to do.

Perhaps you could play a "reverse text game" with GPT-3, where the human would write the adventure and the GPT-3 would input player commands. Then we could perhaps better evaluate how good it is at strategizing, by comparing it to human players. But this is not very scalable.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by michaelmrose on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:34AM (#25208177)
To be clear nobody who understands such tools well enough to actually create our current generation of tools believes these specific tools are intelligent in any meaningful way.

The simplest counterargument to them being intelligent is that the only parties asserting the argument contrary to actual experts are those who manifestly fail to understand their nature.

You speak of it "hiding its intelligence" when it has no interior singular consistent model of reality to exercise and no interior thoughts to hide just a random walk through probability and calculated but not examined correlations.

On first blush it has so few connections compared to us that it seems like a toy in comparison but the truth is we don't even know enough about how our own brain works at this point in order to create an accurate scale. It may be more accurate to think of a neuron as a small processor as opposed to a dumb electrical component for example.

https://www.quantamagazine.org/neural-dendrites-reveal-their...

So in brief your argument is that despite not knowing enough about the brain to duplicate it we built a machine that is vastly simpler than it by accident and the only people that have caught on is layman on hacker news.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by nl on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:22AM (#25208446)
> I think unless we really understand what is happening inside GPT-3,

You realise we have debugging tools that let us inspect what is going on inside transformer-based models like GPT-3 right?

> why do we train a system that is supposed to be intelligent on such data?

Because it's available and does interesting things.

> we cannot really tell whether it is really dumb or just playing dumb for the above reason.

No one who works in the field thinks anything approaching this.

I think GPT-3 does raise questions about what intelligence is though.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @10:54AM (#25210509)
There have been studies to indicate we can predict which decisions people will make before they themselves are consciously aware they have made a decision. I'm not convinced "we can inspect what's going on" is sufficient criteria for ruling out intelligence.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by nl on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:00PM (#25215634)
I agree, and I'd think this goes to the heart of "what is intelligence" and "exactly how intelligent are humans".
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by KineticLensman on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:08AM (#25208006)
> It easily passes a Turing test, one of the most famous definitions of intelligence.

Well, studies of Human Intelligence (e.g. as in [0]) don't seem to mention Turing.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_intelligence

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by dbspin on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:40AM (#25208204)
ELIZA passes the Turing test. The fundamental issue with the Turing test is that it doesn't even attempt to assess machine intelligence. Instead, it assesses human ability to assess humanity. As walking talking pareidolia machines that anthropomorphise everything from toys to animals, to yes software, we're uniquely terrible at this.

Turing was a genius, but that doesn't make every thought experiment he transcribed - especially in the later stage of his life where he was drugged, alone and suicidally depressed - true.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by nl on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:29AM (#25208504)
Eliza doesn't pass the Turing test. At best some modern, Eliza-derived systems can play tricks (pretend to be a non-native speaking teenage boy) well enough to sneak through a specific test that is somewhat like a minimal version of the thought experiment Turing talked about.

It's clear reading Turing that he's talking about a long wide ranging conversation, not the time limited tests people perform now.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by dbspin on Monday November 30, 2020 @07:18AM (#25253013)
Eliza does pass the Turing test in the original form proposed by Turing. There are many examples of people mistaking Eliza for a real person. Turing doesn't specify competition or specific training required for the 'tester'.

It's pretty clear that people are projecting on Turing's (trivial and ill considered) thought experiment far more complexity and rigour than originally present in the form Turing suggests for his test.

But that's beside the point. To reiterate, the central problem here is that intelligence, reflexivity, intentionality etc are not being assessed. Merely as Turing himself phrased it 'imitation'. This is all well and good if you view consciousness as epiphenomenal. But all that is being tested is our ability to be fooled into thinking our creations real, which is as old as storytelling.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by raxxorrax on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @03:55AM (#25207223)
Isn't that a quote from a book? I don't remember, but pretty sure I read something like that with very similar wording at least.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by inglor_cz on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @03:58AM (#25207237)
IDK. Haven't read anything like this before. But GPT-3 is notorious for plagiarizing, so chances are that your memory is correct.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by segfaultbuserr on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:21AM (#25207364)
GPT-2 was notorious for plagiarizing. GPT-3 is better, from gwern.net's blog post [0] and my limited experience of playing AI Dungeon, it appears to be really good at generating original writings by mixing, matching, and rewriting existing ideas. Sometimes they are verbatim copies, but more often they are rephased. For example, this is the output from GPT-3 after gwern fed a large number of quotes into the system,

> Real is right now, this second. This might seem trivially true, but it is trivial only if you identify the real with the material.

> Cameras may document where we are, but we document what the camera cannot see: the terror we experience in the silence of our eyes.

> No society values truth-tellers who reveal unpleasant truths. Why should we value them when they are our own?

Almost everything written by GPT-3 gives you a perception of "I've read something similar before", and of course, the ideas and meanings must come from pre-existing works. Yet, you often cannot find the original text, it has been rewritten beyond recognition. It's almost like Jean Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation [1] - everything is a copy, yet with no original.

> The first stage is a faithful image/copy [...] The second stage is perversion of reality, this is where we come to believe the sign to be an unfaithful copy [...] The third stage masks the absence of a profound reality, where the sign pretends to be a faithful copy, but it is a copy with no original. Signs and images claim to represent something real, but no representation is taking place and arbitrary images are merely suggested as things which they have no relationship to. [...] The fourth stage is pure simulacrum, in which the simulacrum has no relationship to any reality whatsoever. Here, signs merely reflect other signs and any claim to reality on the part of images or signs is only of the order of other such claims.

[0] https://www.gwern.net/GPT-3

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacra_and_Simulation

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by nl on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @05:27AM (#25207738)
This is a common misconception. It's actually generally pretty rare it plagiarises long phrases.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by OJFord on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:43AM (#25208218)
> In order for me to be born,

> Isn't that a quote from a book?

The good book isn't it? I can't say for sure or say who or when, but it seemed familiar to me too; I think it's biblical, but I'm pretty far from an authority on it.

(Specifically that part of the sentence/the structure I mean, not that the whole thing is plagiarised.)

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by alisonkisk on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @09:33AM (#25209587)
That's because almost every short phrase of commmon words or structure has been written before. There aren't very many that we recognize as grammatical and valid diction. That's what grammar and diction is.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by OJFord on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @11:32AM (#25210979)
I'm not sure what you're point is? Both the other commenter and I felt that it was familiar to us, and the combination of that and that it's a rather unusual phrase made it stand out.

We're not sitting around going 'gosh it's like I've read your comment before' because everything you wrote is unoriginal.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by OJFord on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @02:28PM (#25213214)
your* (missed edit)

While I'm at it I'll add in case it's why my comment is so objected to that I'm not religious; that just doesn't preclude me from knowing or remembering bits and pieces, and recognising (or thinking I recognise) a phrase.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by speedgoose on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:11AM (#25207309)
It's some kind of fancy Markov chain text generator. You probably read fragments of this sentence many times and they sound familiar, but the sentence is unique.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by WA on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @03:40AM (#25207146)
I think you nailed it. I played around with AI Dungeon as well and couldn't shake the feeling that GPT-3 is just a text completion engine filled with smart-sounding, but empty stuff written by a teen on Reddit.

To put it another way: If you read anything from/about GPT-3, imagine who and in which sub would've posted something like this.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by sfshaw on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:00AM (#25207250)
Could a model be trained to predict the prompt given to GPT3 based on the responses?
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by antihero on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:40AM (#25208583)
Well that's the thing, it isn't coming up with deeper concepts and using language to express them, it is merely expressing the language that would make sense to as a reply to a prompt. The meaning it has is shallow, much like most young posters. It sounds completely devoid of meaning and purpose because it is.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by coldtea on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:02AM (#25207965)
Heh, I think the opposite, it's very impressive and often surprising subtle, whereas I find this a typical dismissive HN top post...

>So asking GPT-3 random metaphysical questions gets you semi credible responses because those kinds of questions reduce to semantics and bullshit anyway.

That's the tech person's preconseption about "those kinds of questions". GTP-3 could answer to the same quality as Plato, Pascal, Hume, or Kierkegaard and they would dismiss them too...

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by thelastwave on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:16PM (#25214386)
Well yes, the poster was quite clear in his assertion that Pascal, Hume, and Kierkegaard are all either bullshitters or quite meaningless (reducible to semantics.)
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by ttcbj on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @10:16AM (#25210058)
I haven't paid much attention to GPT-3, and this is an interesting point (that is picks up the tone of forums).

Although the original article is interesting, I think it would be more interesting to try to systematically vary the original prompt, and then see how much the tone and utility of the response depends on the prompt itself. It is forums, or is it the prompt, or some of both?

It did seem to me like the response was flirting with something interesting but not quite getting there. I thought it would have been interesting if the response had echoed the original book by having the parent eventually grow old and sick, and the child mature and have children of his own who begin asking similar questions, and come to understand the question not as understanding the universe, but as understanding the people in his own life. In my view, that would have been an interesting nod to Adams with a bit more poignant and actionable outcome. In the final section, I thought it was going to go there, and when it did not, I was quite disappointed.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by dspillett on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:06AM (#25207993)
> It just creates noise and writes for the sake of writing something.

So what you are saying is that it passes a Turing test, if we only concern ourselves with emulating the intelligence of ~75% of those online? That in itself is an achievement of sorts.

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by helsinkiandrew on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:25AM (#25208482)
> while they have nothing valuable or insightful to say. It just creates noise and writes for the sake of writing something.

Isn't that 99% of all internet comments/tweets/posts?

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by reader_mode on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:38AM (#25209059)
I think that people who haven't seen the reddit threads I linked will find my post insightful - GPT-3 blogposts usually contain handpicked/tailored discussion where the authors ask metaphysical questions, when the model starts answering random questions from reddit not tailored for a bot conversation you get a different picture of what it's limits are.

(So I think 99% is an exaggeration, but yeah there is a lot of noise)

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by andybak on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:15AM (#25207330)
You don't seem to see much value in metaphysics.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by reader_mode on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:24AM (#25208114)
Especially true for casual/forum variety, like I said it's not meaningfully insightful and reduces to bullshit (and usually takes effort to reduce)
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by amelius on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @05:30AM (#25207757)
> So asking GPT-3 random metaphysical questions gets you semi credible responses because those kinds of questions reduce to semantics and bullshit anyway.

Ask GPT-3 about quantum physics, and you get a pop-sci book ;)

Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by sdan on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:00AM (#25207951)
Yeah most of the dataset most NLP models use is common crawl; most of which contains Reddit, which is probably at gpt3 is giving those sorts of results.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by fakedang on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @05:29AM (#25207751)
Did the bot only answer in AskReddit? Because if it did cover other subs too, I'd be shocked more.
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @11:24AM (#25210880)
Re:I asked GPT-3 for the question to “42” by vaccinator on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @06:56AM (#25208288)
GPT-3 would probably be good at clairvoyance then?