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Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by m12k on Monday October 05, 2020 @02:57AM (#24685228)
Running Darwin on Linux - Dar-ling. Plus nobody dreams of being the sidekick. But yeah, it would have been clever - I'm still disappointed that PyQT isn't called QTPy.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by TheUndead96 on Monday October 05, 2020 @03:16AM (#24685317)
In my mind it is now QTPy until the end of time
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by hugodahl on Monday October 05, 2020 @11:12AM (#24688451)
What can't be solved by software (or marketing?), someone will solve with hardware[0]!

[0]: http://adafruit.com/qtpy

Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by mkl on Monday October 05, 2020 @06:23AM (#24686290)
"Qt" is pronounced "cute", not "cue tee". That's why it's PyQt, not PyQT or QTPy.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by fnord123 on Monday October 05, 2020 @08:15AM (#24686999)
Pronouncing Qt as Cute is like pronouncing gif as jif. Maybe someone 'officially' says it's correct but basically no one does it and if they do, everything secretly judges them.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by bitL on Monday October 05, 2020 @12:03PM (#24688952)
Haavard Nord, co-author of Qt, pronounces it as "cute".
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by edgyquant on Monday October 05, 2020 @12:46PM (#24689430)
Right and the gif creator calls it jif: and nobody cares.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by LocalH on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @12:25AM (#24694670)
Peak entitlement there. “The creator of <x> says it is pronounced <xx>, but I say they’re wrong”
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by fnord123 on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @05:31AM (#24696052)
And yet Americans pronounce Audi as ow-dee. British pronounce Nissan as niss-an (should be knee-sawn), etc. Americans pronounce La Croix brand water as La Croy (Should be ~lakwa, it's a pun on l'aqua) etc etc. Let's not worry and just enjoy life. :)
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by waterhouse on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @06:58AM (#24696443)
The creator of x decided to spell it as x. One could call it entitlement for the creator to try to demand that everyone follow some unintuitive pronunciation rule (or, in some cases, a rule that made sense only in another language).
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by enedil on Monday October 05, 2020 @09:12AM (#24687435)
I do and I don't hear cue-tee almost ever
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by masukomi on Monday October 05, 2020 @11:15AM (#24688474)
apparently "everything secretly judges [you]" ;)
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by fnord123 on Monday October 05, 2020 @05:44PM (#24692387)
oof, thanks for the correction. :(
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by dylan604 on Monday October 05, 2020 @10:34AM (#24688109)
I don't trust people that do not pronounce it as jif. If you can't bother to learn the correct pronunciation, how can you be trusted to do other things correctly?
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by ben-schaaf on Monday October 05, 2020 @11:31AM (#24688626)
I assume you also spell "colour", "naïvety" and "aluminium" and don't trust anyone who doesn't? Though you're clearly not even spelling "pronunciacioun" correctly so maybe you shouldn't be trusted?

Just to drive the point home: Language is fluid, English has no organisation setting any rules and we the people get to decide how we pronounce things. And we've pretty clearly decided on what way we want to pronounce gif.

Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by masukomi on Monday October 05, 2020 @11:19AM (#24688503)
language evolves. How the creator of a word pronounced a thing is irrelevant. Witness essentially every word in the English dictionary. None (possibly literally) of them are pronounced as they originally were (frequently not spelled as they originally were either) unless they are _very_ new.

the "correct" pronunciation is whatever the community decides, despite what we may individually think of it.

As such "jif" is decidedly _not_ the "correct" pronunciation because essentially the entire community says "gif"

"jif" would be the "archaic" pronunciation. Technically valid, but not used by anyone except for hold-outs and people who refuse to accept modern pronunciation standards.

Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by dylan604 on Monday October 05, 2020 @11:52AM (#24688845)
You remind me of a history teacher I had in high school that lectured me in front of the entire class on how my name was being mispronounced based on the way it was spelled. At the time, I just thought to myself "what an idiot" and carried on with my life.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by Kaze404 on Monday October 05, 2020 @12:00PM (#24688923)
If you can't bother to learn the correct pronunciation of your own name, how can you be trusted to do other things correctly?
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by fnord123 on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @04:06PM (#24701789)
Are you Scarlet Johansson?
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by Cyberspy on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @04:24AM (#24695721)
In the UK, the shop Lidl was supposed to be pronounced Lie-del and I think that is how it is pronounced in Europe.

But, everyone pronounced it with a short 'i' and now they've adopted that in adverts - 'Every little [lidl] helps' - doesn't work if you pronounce it Lie-del!

If they wanted it pronounced Lie-del - they should have spelt it like that - Lidle!

Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by fnord123 on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @07:31AM (#24696628)
"Every little helps" is the slogan for Tesco.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by srtjstjsj on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @10:43AM (#24698156)
Oof, that's going to be awkward as Lidl grows.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by DerDangDerDang on Monday October 05, 2020 @11:10AM (#24688431)
How do you pronounce png? (no googling!)
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by whelming_wave on Monday October 05, 2020 @11:18AM (#24688494)
“ping”, it’s in the spec ;)
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by TheKarateKid on Monday October 05, 2020 @12:30PM (#24689255)
Horrible decision imo, since ping can easily be confused with the networking action and there’s no way an “i” could be easily assumed from just seeing “png”.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by dylan604 on Monday October 05, 2020 @12:45PM (#24689412)
but PNG means you're someone that's no longer welcome, so that's just not nice for an image format.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by dividedbyzero on Monday October 05, 2020 @08:18AM (#24687020)
But in practice I think it is pronounced cutie, because pretty much nobody cares enough to learn enough Qt lore to know better, and cutie apparently is the most intuitive choice. At any rate, I've never heard anyone pronounce it cute, including people who develop with Qt.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by interfixus on Monday October 05, 2020 @06:43AM (#24686408)
According to me, and according to my professionel coder friends who work with the thing daily, it's cue tee.

Same way Tcl isn't tickle, PNG isn't ping, and LaTeX only grumplingly and with quite some self discipline on our side manages to remain la TECH. These jokes were marginally entertaining 30 years ago, tired by the turn of the century, and way past expiry today.

Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by wbl on Monday October 05, 2020 @08:58AM (#24687328)
Pronouncing LaTeX like the material is pretty common in the math world; id say up to half of Berkeley math when I was there.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by apetresc on Monday October 05, 2020 @10:09AM (#24687877)
My experience matches yours with regards to Qt, but not at all with regards to Tcl or PNG. I always hear them spoken as words rather than acronyms.

Does your circle call it "S Q L" or "sequel"?

Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by account42 on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @05:49AM (#24696142)
> Does your circle call it "S Q L" or "sequel"?

squeal, obviously.

Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by edgyquant on Monday October 05, 2020 @12:50PM (#24689460)
At My first programming job It was pronounced “skewl”
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by lightdot on Monday October 05, 2020 @07:03AM (#24686507)
Well, it really depends on when were these jokes introduced to someone...

They can hardly be marginally entertaining to someone 30 years ago if the person in question wasn't even born then! :)

But they can most certainly be marginally entertaining to this person today!

Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by dylan604 on Monday October 05, 2020 @10:41AM (#24688163)
I wasn't born when people started pronouncing Houston St in New York as "House-ton" or Rodeo Dr as "RoDayO", yet that's the accepted pronunciation so that's what gets used.
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by jkaplowitz on Monday October 05, 2020 @10:59AM (#24688334)
Well, Houston St in New York is actually named after a person who called pronounced it "House-ton", not after the same Sam Houston as Houston, TX. This was the street's namesake, using an alternate spelling of the last name (spelling was in general less standardized back then):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Houstoun_(lawyer)

So, no joke involved in that case.

Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by balnaphone on Monday October 05, 2020 @01:51PM (#24690141)
Note for Brits and Canadians: "house-ton" is not how you pronounce Houston St in New York, it's "how-stun" (IPA /ˈhaʊstən/). In constrast, Houston TX sounds like "hew-stun" run together (IPA /ˈhjuːstən/).
Re:Darling: macOS Translation Layer for Linux by jkaplowitz on Tuesday October 06, 2020 @02:20PM (#24700760)
Ah right, wasn't thinking of the Canadian "ou" diphthong or British vowels. Thanks for adding the IPA.