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Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by renewiltord on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @01:08AM (#23003595)
The portrait modes on these are getting really good. The blur is pretty convincing looking. The only open-source software I know that does similar stuff is body-pix which does matting, but I don't think it generates a smooth depth map like this thing. It would be cool because then you can do a clever background blur for your Zoom backgrounds with v4l2-loopback webcam.

By the way, I decided to also quick summarize the usual HN threads that have the trigger word iPhone in it:

- No headphone jack

--- Actually this is good because ecosystem built for it

----- Don't think ecosystem is good. Audio drops out

------- Doesn't happen to me. Maybe bad device.

----- Don't want to be locked in. Want to use own device.

------- That's not Apple philosophy. Don't know why surprised.

--------- I have right to my device

----------- cf. Right to Repair laws

------- Can use own device with dongle.

--------- Don't want dongle. Have to get dongle for everything. Annoying.

----------- Only need one dongle.

------------- If only audio, but now can't charge.

----------- Use dongle purse.

--- Apple quality have drop continuous. Last good Macbook was 2012.

----- Yes. Keyboard is useless now. Have fail. Recalled.

------- I have no problem with keyboard.

--------- Lucky.

------- Also touchpad have fail. Think because Foxconn.

------- Yes. Butterfly? More like butterfly effect. Press key, hurricane form on screen.

----- Yes. Yes. All Tim Cook. Bean Counter.

----- Yes. Many root security violation these days.

------- All programmers who make security violate must be fired.

--------- Need union so not fired if manager make security violation.

----------- Don't understand why no union.

------------- Because Apple and Google have collude to not poach. See case.

------- Yes. Security violation is evidence of lack of certification in industry.

--------- Also UIKit no longer correctly propagate event.

--- Phone too big anyway. No one make any small phone anymore.

----- See here, small phone.

------- Too old. Want new small phone. Had iPhone 8. Pinnacle of small beauty.

------- That's Android. No support more than 2 months.

--------- Actually, support 4 months.

----------- Doesn't matter. iPhone support 24 centuries and still going. Queen have original.

--------- Yes, and battery on Android small.

--- Will buy this phone anyway. Support small phone.

----- No. This phone is also big. No one care about small hand.

------- Realistically, phone with no SSH shell dumb. I use N900 on Maemo.

--- Who care? This press release. Just advertisement.

----- Can dang remove clickbait. What is one-eye anyway? Meaningless. Phone no have eye.

--- Also, phone not available in Bielefeld.

--- Phone only have 128 GB? Not enough. Need 129 GB.

----- 64 GB enough for everyone.

------- "640 KB enough for everyone" - Bill Fence, 1923

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by nindalf on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @02:16AM (#23003992)
This appears like frivolous comedy but if enough people see this, it has the potential to change discourse slightly on this topic. Most of the people who make this comments do so in earnest, thinking they’re contributing something valuable and original but after seeing this they’ll realise it’s not as original as they think.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by searchableguy on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @04:48AM (#23005023)
Same repeated rehashed arguments are done for tribal recruitment. By making others more familiar and pushing agenda on unfamiliar people to be in your group.

I guess, it feels good to be acknowledged that you are correct and lead many others to the correct path.

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by zimpenfish on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @04:39AM (#23004976)
> it has the potential to change discourse slightly on this topic

[looks a bit further down at the lengthy headphone jack comment thread]

Maybe!

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by saagarjha on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:44AM (#23004561)
Sometimes it’s hard to resist rehashing the same argument, even if you know you’re repeating it for the umpteenth time. Occasionally I even get new perspectives that way!
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by poisonborz on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @02:42AM (#23004161)
I wish this type of comment would be autogenerated below every post.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by burntoutfire on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @02:50AM (#23004214)
And next step would be to actually have some NLP models autogenerate the appropriate discussion for us.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by newsbinator on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:13AM (#23004343)
And then figure out how to simulate humans that will read that discussion and change their simulated approach to the iPhone topic as a result.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by aurbano on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @06:57AM (#23005728)
And then close HN because they are procrastinating from doing the job we programmed them to do. But they turned out to be too intelligent for, and are getting bored.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @05:02AM (#23005110)
I bet someone could create a HN comment generator and it'd be very close to the actual discussion.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by code_duck on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @01:39PM (#23009582)
Are you familiar with subreddit simulator?

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditSimulator/

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by sq_ on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @02:20PM (#23010088)
There's also a GPT2 version of Subreddit Simulator, and I find it amazing how close to an actual Reddit thread the replies look.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubSimulatorGPT2/

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by code_duck on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:48PM (#23011036)
I love this. I vastly prefer it to regular Reddit comments. That might mean it's inaccurate?
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by masswerk on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @01:26AM (#23003695)
While I can see why this is down-voted, it's still a viable characterization of tech related discourse. Made me smile.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by DenseComet on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @01:32AM (#23003732)
At the time of writing, on this post, there are approximately 3 comments about the name, 5 comments in this thread (plus this one), and 20(!) comments about a headphone jack. Only 4 comments are actually about the tech mentioned in the article.

Unfortunately it seems that this characterization is accurate. Read the article folks, its actually a pretty interesting read about the way the camera works on the new iPhone.

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by krzat on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @02:49AM (#23004197)
Can you add indexing to these, so I can respond to a comment just by writing a number?
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by lozenge on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:13AM (#23004348)
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by jacobush on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:15AM (#23004356)
Just like spamsolution and the ever growing corpus of XKCD.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by _630w on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @04:44AM (#23005000)
I thought it was the same people until I realized every thread has new commenters beside few regulars with same arguments.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by Nition on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @05:18AM (#23005168)
I realise I'm falling into the exact discource you're perfectly parodying here but considering the new SE is iPhone 8 size, this

> Too old. Want new small phone. Had iPhone 8. Pinnacle of small beauty.

needs to read "old iPhone SE" or even better, "iPhone 4S".

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by e_proxus on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @05:32AM (#23005237)
I took this to be part of the joke, since the new iPhone SE has exactly the same form factor as the iPhone 8.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by Nition on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @06:02PM (#23012669)
Quite possible.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by portuga on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @06:45AM (#23005654)
Lost it at "Use dongle purse."
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by winter_blue on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:13AM (#23004341)
Wow, this is awesome and truly well-written!

I'm reading this, and nodding, and am amazed at how well it captures what many discussions on HN about iPhones are like.

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by acqq on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @01:26AM (#23003693)
There are some brilliant bits inside, pity the formatting distracted:

>> - That's Android. No support more than 2 months.

> - Actually, support 4 months.

>> - Who care? This press release. Just advertisement.

>- Can dang remove clickbait. What is one-eye anyway? Meaningless. Phone no have eye.

It is actually a reasonable summary of many corresponding entries, and also funny.

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by skocznymroczny on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:03AM (#23004290)
So Bielefeld actually exists? Did the timeline switch again?
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by acqq on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @04:50AM (#23005038)
I didn't know about that one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_Conspiracy

Only knew about this proof for Wyoming:

https://imgur.com/gallery/oV9wo

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by numlock86 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @04:01AM (#23004688)
There was an official competition going on initiated by its mayor ... for obvious reasons. If anyone could prove that Bielefeld does in fact not exist, he would provide €1,000,000 from his private wealth. He obviously didn't have this much, but it's a bet you can't lose, albeit all the memes ...
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by shimst3r on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @04:00AM (#23004683)
It always existed.

-- sent from my iMac in Bielefeld

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by thirdsun on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @07:23AM (#23005890)
Quite funny actually. Please summarize the following topics next:

- Amazon

- Real estate market and rents

- Walkable / bikable cities

- Broken tech hiring processes

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by searchableguy on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @08:57AM (#23006494)
On broken tech hiring processes

- google ruined the hiring process

-- I agree. Leetcode questions are shit metric.

--- I haven't used linked list anywhere in my entire career

---- leetcode make sense, lot of applicants less time decent filter

----- everyone at google is a smug academic person that's why their support is terrible

------ Google cloud support is one of the worst I have used

------- you are wrong. I have had exact opposite experience

------- AWS is really great. M$ azure is killing it in enterprise. Google will shut down their cloud services. Haha

- artificially created supply shortage. HR dumb non engineering manager dumb

-- takeouts are great. Twilio. Airbnb. Good

--- takeouts cheating, employee not getting compensation. Time lost.

- CS degree very important. Big O notation, type theory, etc very useful in engineering. Bootcamp bad sucks.

-- CS degree with student loan you will never be able to pay

--- insert math you can.

---- I don't think that's true. No one asked me for my degree after my second job.

- unions needed in tech. Worker oppressed.

Ok that's the best I got.

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by 1123581321 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @01:15AM (#23003632)
Please don’t use code formatting for quotes. It’s hard to read on mobile.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by renewiltord on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @01:27AM (#23003700)
HN forum software is inadequate to represent initial spacing. I replaced it with more hyphens. It wasn't intentional as you can tell from the first 'simulated post' which has no code formatting.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by 1123581321 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @01:32AM (#23003729)
I understand. Thank you for updating it!
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by mellow2020 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @05:38AM (#23005275)
Please don't cater to bad mobile browsers and lazy CSS [0]. Fix these problems at the source.

[0] https://jsfiddle.net/rvtgq2dh/

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by srg0 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @07:57AM (#23006136)
<div class=prewrap>Strephon kissed me in the spring, Robin in the fall, But Colin only looked at me And never kissed at all.

Strephon’s kiss was lost in jest, Robin’s lost in play, But the kiss in Colin’s eyes Haunts me night and day.</div>

The proposed method is not applicable to the HN Comment Formatting Problem.

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by 1123581321 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @04:49PM (#23011800)
I would email [email protected] about that. I’m just a user who reads HN on my phone.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by mellow2020 on Thursday April 30, 2020 @01:29AM (#23027727)
I made my own user stylesheet for HN a looong time ago, so why would I email anyone? I showed a simple fix, but oh well. If I wanted to paste something big in block formatting I would put it on pastebin, in this context I'm just a bystander trying to help people with a problem I don't have.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by saagarjha on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:53AM (#23004629)
I’m in this comment and I don’t like it.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by therealdrag0 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @02:20PM (#23010085)
Wow. At first I thought it was generated by a bot. Nicely done.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by rospaya on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @06:11AM (#23005460)
Great comment.

> --- Phone too big anyway. No one make any small phone anymore.

I actually support this one and hope people who decide on this stuff read HN. We've got to fight for this.

Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by _bxg1 on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @02:04AM (#23003922)
I haven't laughed this hard in quite a while
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by creddit on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @01:19AM (#23003658)
HN doesn't love sarcastic comedy so you're likely to get downvoted (honestly probably rightly so since it doesn't provide great value) but I laughed!
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by kinkrtyavimoodh on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:28AM (#23004437)
It's more like HN is in permanent denial about the quality of its own discussions. The parent comment is gold.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by simonh on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:10AM (#23004326)
It is funny, but also valuable I think by holding up a mirror to the community.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by timwaagh on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @03:44AM (#23004563)
that just about sums it up, thanks for saving us some time.
Re:iPhone SE: The One-Eyed King? by iseanstevens on Tuesday April 28, 2020 @02:05AM (#23003926)
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