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Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by maaaats on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @06:42AM (#18449144)
> "100M degrees" (Kelvin)

Off topic, but this distinction made me laugh. Like the difference between Kelvin and Celsius would throw everything off.

Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by marcosdumay on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @06:47AM (#18449163)
Well, there is almost certainly somebody that read the number and thought about Fahrenheit.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by basil-rash on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @01:43PM (#18452532)
Or read it and think it's some very prolific Chinese university.

Not that I'd be that stupid.

No way.

Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by exikyut on Saturday November 17, 2018 @08:30AM (#18475441)
Of course I wouldn't be that stupid either.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by jdironman on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @08:02AM (#18449510)
I'm that somebody.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by hkt on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @08:51AM (#18449809)
Do scientists use farenheit? Genuine question
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by muhbags on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @09:10AM (#18449904)
Never. It's either no units (theoretical physics), eV (particle physics) or Kelvin/Celsius for experimental physics.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by ravar on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @10:04AM (#18450304)
Technically there is Rankine if you want to do thermo in imperial units.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by EForEndeavour on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @01:12PM (#18452177)
Technically, Rankine and Fahrenheit are not imperial units.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by godelski on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @03:10PM (#18453377)
I've only known engineers to use Rankine and they hate it. I've never known a scientist to use it.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by grogenaut on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @09:28AM (#18450016)
When they look at a weather report in the US. Otherwise no.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by jcranmer on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @11:00AM (#18450826)
You forgot about oven temperatures as well.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by puranjay on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @11:43AM (#18451212)
It took at least two burned dishes before I realized the recipes I was following called for Fahrenheit, not Celsius
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by selectodude on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @01:43PM (#18452535)
What kind of fusion reactor of an oven do you own that goes up to 425 degrees Celsius?
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by ToFundorNot on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @11:25PM (#18456849)
Slight tangent, but Frank Stronach of Magna International, started his business smelting parts in their modified kitchen oven.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by Arbalest on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @06:14PM (#18455139)
pyrolytic perhaps?
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by nsxwolf on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @12:09PM (#18451470)
Burned dishes or burned houses?
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by grogenaut on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @11:32AM (#18451107)
Touche.

My aussie friend who was a scientist said when he was in the us for about 15 years that he still used c for temp in lab but F for weather and it took him a while to realize that he had flipped and the 2 things had basically no relationship in his head.

Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by philwelch on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @05:31PM (#18454786)
Kind of a tangent, but I still firmly believe that for Earth weather conditions, Fahrenheit is a more intuitive scale. 0 is a really, really, really cold day and 100 is a really, really, really hot day. 50 degrees is neither especially warm nor especially chilly, 70 degrees is warm, 30 degrees is chilly, 20 and below are truly cold, 80 and above are truly hot, and if you go into negative numbers or above 100 degrees than you're in the "extremes".
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by bsaul on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @06:13PM (#18455124)
Cold and warm are relative. 0 for freezing / snowing and 100 for boiling gives you a much more understandable range. Honestly, US metrics don’t make any kind of sense anymore...
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by philwelch on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @06:15PM (#18455152)
Except for weather, it’s never 100 C outside, or else we’d all die.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by TomMarius on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:49AM (#18458079)
Yeah but it's still a very useful point where 100 should be, e.g. when you go to a sauna you know more precisely what to expect.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by thefringthing on Thursday November 15, 2018 @10:14AM (#18459838)
While it's true that 100C doesn't have any weather meaning, 0F being "very cold" isn't particularly objective. I just looked it up, and apparently 0F is only about -18C. Whether -18C is "very, very cold" depends a lot on where you're from and what you're used to. I'm Canadian and I certainly wouldn't characterize -18C as "very, very cold". -30C maybe. 0C has a fairly objective interpretation in terms of weather: it's the point at which puddles start to freeze into ice slicks.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by philwelch on Thursday November 15, 2018 @02:09PM (#18462215)
Canada is a very cold country ;)
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by meowface on Friday November 16, 2018 @12:21PM (#18470114)
Yes, they are relative. 0 for freezing and 100 for boiling works well for chemical reactions and cooking. 0 for extremely cold weather and 100 for extremely hot weather works well for knowing what to wear before going outside. Celsius requires smaller numbers with decimals for similar weather precision.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by sandworm101 on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @10:44AM (#18450696)
Some. Not the physicists or astronomers, but some Americans who work with data from non-scientists regularly stay with the units in the data. Some engineers, those who are dealing with older equipment, stick with the units used when the equipment was built. US pilots and aerospace generally still talk in knots and feet of altitude.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by jschwartzi on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @12:11PM (#18451494)
Mountain climbers in the US typically also use feet for elevation. Compasses sold in the US also have different markings for measuring the Universal Transverse Mercator grid(1:24,000 and 1:50,000 in the US) and rulers(inches, feet). 1:24,000 is used on USGS 7.5-minute maps, and I believe 1:50,000 originates from an older map series, both of which have topographical lines marked in feet instead of meters. Altimeters sold in the US also customarily use feet although the digital ones can be switched to Meters.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by pc86 on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @11:19AM (#18451001)
I fly a '76 Cherokee pretty regularly and its ASI is in both knots and miles per hour, with MPH actually being the more prevalent unit.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by mcv on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @07:13AM (#18449271)
It's also wrong. Kelvin is not in degrees. It's just 100M Kelvin.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by antx on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @08:17AM (#18449596)
You're right, the degree was removed in 1967, because Kelvin's units are considered absolute. However, one could argue that, since it has a scale, each "step" or "unit" can be considered a "degree", like in a literal scale. In informal conversation, we should not be so pedantic. Even some modern scientific textbooks still include the degree.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by mcv on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @09:23AM (#18449980)
> the degree was removed in 1967

I did not know that. I've always thought it was originally defined as units Kelvin, without degree.

Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by monochromatic on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @08:24AM (#18449640)
Indeed. Nobody’s going to be confused by “degrees Kelvin.”
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by jasonincanada on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @09:21AM (#18449968)
Technically 100M kelvins
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by tantalor on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @11:16AM (#18450966)
100 megakelvins (MK)
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by Skunkleton on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @02:01PM (#18452750)
Who is Kelvin and why are there so many of him?
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by simias on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @08:40AM (#18449740)
I remember seeing an infografic a while ago where some very high temperature of like 10 million Kelvins was displayed like "9999728 degrees". I thought it was mildly amusing.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by DavidSJ on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @10:45AM (#18450700)
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by simias on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @12:49PM (#18451897)
It must've been, "99,999,999,726 C, the temperature inside a newly formed neutron star"! It's even more preposterous than I remembered. It's not even rounded correctly!

But then again I just noticed that I was off by one in my parent comment so I shouldn't through any stones I suppose.

Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by glbrew on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @07:36AM (#18449375)
In his defense he was commenting on the difference between Kelvin and KeV.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by pfdietz on Saturday November 17, 2018 @07:54PM (#18478267)
The latter was named after Lord KeVin.
Re:Chinese Tokamak reaches over 100M degrees by bagacrap on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @09:46AM (#18450156)
Shouldn't it just be 100 K, i.e. no "degrees"?