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Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by BugsJustFindMe on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:01PM (#18209465)
This is a mobile phone without a screen that doesn't make phone calls and won't fit in your pocket. It's nothing more than a desk toy.

"Hey Vector" is just "Hey Google" or "Hey Siri" or "Hey Alexa". For a lot less money you could just get a Google Home or Amazon Echo (Apple HomePod is a bit more) and they provide more functionality without the useless wheels.

Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by nikofeyn on Saturday October 13, 2018 @10:11PM (#18211003)
what is wrong with being a toy? you are oversimplifying the situation by reducing this toy to its components. it's like calling a furby a terrible and uncomfortable electronic pillow. it doesn't even make sense.

and you conveniently ignored the coolest factor of vector, and that is it's soon to be released sdk. plus, what is possibly fun and cute about amazon echo and google home just sitting there doing nothing but being the ears of companies scheming on how to sell us more shit?

Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by BugsJustFindMe on Saturday October 13, 2018 @10:51PM (#18211116)
> what is wrong with being a toy?

There's nothing wrong with toys. There's everything wrong with a "Super smart alive and aware AI" hype fest when what they mean is it's a partially functional google assistant with a pareidolic face.

> what is possibly fun and cute about amazon echo and google home just sitting there doing nothing

https://www.reddit.com/r/eyebombing/comments/5nttde/google_h...

Boom, solved. Look at how adorable that is. You could even put a hat on it.

Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by nikofeyn on Sunday October 14, 2018 @01:20AM (#18211501)
yeah, because we can sum up the entirety of interaction design with googly eyes.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by type-2 on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:57PM (#18209700)
but they're not cute
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by BugsJustFindMe on Saturday October 13, 2018 @05:08PM (#18210038)
So put a hat and some googly-eye stickers on them?
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by tjoff on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:45PM (#18209928)
Yet I would consider Vector by far the most useful product of them all.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by 0x8BADF00D on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:48PM (#18209945)
Disclaimer: I work for an engineering team at Anki

There’s also the privacy aspect of Vector. Anki respects your privacy because your data isn’t used in the same way that it is by Google Home and Alexa (i.e. for ad targeting)

Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by Ancalagon on Saturday October 13, 2018 @06:08PM (#18210278)
Hows the work/life there? I briefly considered applying but havent gotten around to it.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by x0054 on Saturday October 13, 2018 @06:39PM (#18210399)
Are you considering adding app capability : SDK? Also, do you need entry level ML people?
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by BugsJustFindMe on Saturday October 13, 2018 @05:00PM (#18209996)
Most useful how? What exactly does it do that is more useful than the other things that do more? (Full disclosure: I very strongly suspect that you're lying.)
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by tjoff on Saturday October 13, 2018 @06:03PM (#18210254)
Well, for one I don't consider the alternative mentioned systems to be particularly useful. And I would strongly object to living in the same apartment/house as one.

I have not (and probably will not) research in what sense the privacy of this device is better but from what little I've seen it is at least better. And if not I can't imagine Anki being less trustworthy than the others.

I see it as a furby, which can be a little neat. Wouldn't buy it though.

Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by wodenokoto on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:02PM (#18209733)
Standupmaths, from recent front page fame got sponsored to do a video on Vector, and it appears to be mostly a cross between a virtual assistant, like Alexis and a robot pet, like sony Aibo, with a form factor inspired by wall-e.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ahdOqe5qBk

Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by boltzmannbrain on Saturday October 13, 2018 @05:40PM (#18210153)
"Smart enough to take over the world. Nice enough not to."

<rolls eyes>... So how smart?

"Weather, timer, take a photo, blackjack."

Ha, must be $5. Or $10, it's kinda cute.

"$249.99"

Piss off.

"Super smart AI, safely programmed one notch below too smart."

Yeah, if it could keep a calendar, man that'd be dangerous.

Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by Eduardo3rd on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:06PM (#18209744)
“Needed at home - USB Power Adapter 5V, 1A or greater”

It’s a $250 device that doesn’t include a plug for the charger. I don’t know if that’s an effort to save money or reduce waste, but either way it strikes me as a way to guarantee a subset of customers are annoyed in their first 30 minutes of using the product.

What am I missing here?

Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by codezero on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:24PM (#18209831)
I think they are working on the assumption most who would buy this device have extras.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by JohnHaugeland on Saturday October 13, 2018 @06:08PM (#18210277)
they're twenty cents in bulk. it's a bad assumption
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by delecti on Saturday October 13, 2018 @07:45PM (#18210601)
I just recently moved and I was astonished at how many superfluous cables and adapters I had. I definitely appreciate not getting more when I can reasonably be expected to have ones already. I have easily a dozen unoccupied USB ports within 10 feet of me.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by kumarvvr on Saturday October 13, 2018 @10:35PM (#18211072)
Perhaps they are banking on the fact that most homes now have multiple USB, 5V, 1A adapters readily available.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by Semaphor on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:02PM (#18209472)
So, what is this? 2018 furby? The site has no information.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by amaccuish on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:00PM (#18209719)
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by cptnapalm on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:11PM (#18209513)
It's the same people who put out the nearly identical looking Cozmo a couple of years ago. Same thing, but apparently can hear now.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by ogaj on Saturday October 13, 2018 @05:06PM (#18210022)
Curiously... there don't appear to be any FCC registrations for the new device: https://fccid.io/2AAIC
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by nikofeyn on Saturday October 13, 2018 @10:14PM (#18211013)
it's not the same thing. they made significant upgrades, especially such that the embedded platform (basically a smartphone board) is powerful enough to run the sdk without having a smartphone tethered like comzo had to have.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by BugsJustFindMe on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:08PM (#18209501)
Yes.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by Animats on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:17PM (#18209801)
It's safe because it doesn't do anything?
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by bouvin on Saturday October 13, 2018 @05:51PM (#18210201)
Techmoan was not overly impressed: https://youtu.be/is-rSK5y6EQ
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by rsp1984 on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:39PM (#18209620)
Does anyone have any information about how Anki is doing as a company? They have raised almost $200m. Are their products selling well?
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by DecayingOrganic on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:34PM (#18209878)
It seems like they have sold 1.5m [0] robots so far.

[0]: https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/08/anki-has-sold-1-5-million-...

Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by bryanrasmussen on Sunday October 14, 2018 @02:39AM (#18211671)
Ok how's this for cute: https://www.nabaztag.com/#karotz

These things really make me mad - the nabaztag I mean, because of the wasted potential. I bought one, my kid loved it, it's super cute wonderful. The api sucks, most of the things didn't work, it has a built in RSS reader (evidently, but the RSS reader supposedly works by compiling the feed down into an application and downloading that and executing it and none of the feeds I tried to get to work [that they recommended] ever worked). aaaarggghhh, really the design of the thing is wonderful. It should take over the world, by the design, but the functionality made it so it didn't do so.

I mean I hate it so much and I am still tempted to buy a new one despite the things that were messed up because 1. those things that were messed up might be fixed by now, they were not insurmountable. Some of them were really the easy bits. 2. the things that did work showed just really good design ideas.

I want one again, but I also want not to feel screwed over.

Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by splatt on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:04PM (#18209482)
The comments on their youtube video seem fake.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by zan2434 on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:37PM (#18209615)
I don't understand. How does it respond to your queries? For weather it seems to animate little rain droplets on the screen, but in the example: "what's an epsilon?" they never show it actually answering.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by icebraining on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:43PM (#18209629)
They have it speak in the video ("Hey there").
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by syntaxing on Saturday October 13, 2018 @09:29PM (#18210898)
I've been following this since it's been announced and it is a really cool idea. But I agree with most of the people here that there is a limited sense of practicality for this product. The only thing I can see this being useful for is for education purposes. This would be great for schools, especially middle and high school. I even used a mindstorm for one of my graduate classes/lab to write our own algorithms (in nxc).
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by darepublic on Sunday October 14, 2018 @06:07PM (#18215751)
Perhaps its ultimate usefulness might be augmented by people writing functionality using the SDK. Considering that it has wheels and is mobile (I assume) maybe the potential functionality is greater than that of stationary home assistants? I like the idea of a robot that has a few core features, a lot of potential functionality, and a solid SDK platform on which people can harness that potential. Don't know if this will live up to that notion but I find it interesting.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by nikofeyn on Saturday October 13, 2018 @10:04PM (#18210984)
something can be useful simply because it's fun or entertaining.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by sharpercoder on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:52PM (#18209963)
I have now spent a few minutes on the website. I'm confused on to what robot it is offering? And what utility that robot then offers? In the video I see multiple robots. I don't see the robot actually offering any value. I'd love to spend money on a robot, but I have no idea why I would spend money on this thing (things?)
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by herbst on Saturday October 13, 2018 @07:32PM (#18210561)
Now I am curious what you would expect from a robot? As far as I can tell most 'home robots' will be more or less Toys for the coming years at least.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by beeskneecaps on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:33PM (#18209595)
Vector, call 911. Beep beep beep. 911, what’s the problem? Beep beep beep.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by notafraudster on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:10PM (#18209766)
This is probably the single worst sales pitch I've ever seen for a superfluous IOT product. Is this intended for public consumption?
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by kwhitefoot on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:48PM (#18209652)
What does it do?
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot by scottlegrand2 on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:26PM (#18209836)
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