Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by BugsJustFindMe on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:01PM
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This is a mobile phone without a screen that doesn't make phone calls and won't fit in your pocket. It's nothing more than a desk toy.
"Hey Vector" is just "Hey Google" or "Hey Siri" or "Hey Alexa". For a lot less money you could just get a Google Home or Amazon Echo (Apple HomePod is a bit more) and they provide more functionality without the useless wheels.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by nikofeyn on Saturday October 13, 2018 @10:11PM
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what is wrong with being a toy? you are oversimplifying the situation by reducing this toy to its components. it's like calling a furby a terrible and uncomfortable electronic pillow. it doesn't even make sense.
and you conveniently ignored the coolest factor of vector, and that is it's soon to be released sdk. plus, what is possibly fun and cute about amazon echo and google home just sitting there doing nothing but being the ears of companies scheming on how to sell us more shit?
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by BugsJustFindMe on Saturday October 13, 2018 @10:51PM
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> what is wrong with being a toy?
There's nothing wrong with toys. There's everything wrong with a "Super smart alive and aware AI" hype fest when what they mean is it's a partially functional google assistant with a pareidolic face.
> what is possibly fun and cute about amazon echo and google home just sitting there doing nothing
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by 0x8BADF00D on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:48PM
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Disclaimer: I work for an engineering team at Anki
There’s also the privacy aspect of Vector. Anki respects your privacy because your data isn’t used in the same way that it is by Google Home and Alexa (i.e. for ad targeting)
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by BugsJustFindMe on Saturday October 13, 2018 @05:00PM
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Most useful how? What exactly does it do that is more useful than the other things that do more? (Full disclosure: I very strongly suspect that you're lying.)
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by tjoff on Saturday October 13, 2018 @06:03PM
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Well, for one I don't consider the alternative mentioned systems to be particularly useful. And I would strongly object to living in the same apartment/house as one.
I have not (and probably will not) research in what sense the privacy of this device is better but from what little I've seen it is at least better. And if not I can't imagine Anki being less trustworthy than the others.
I see it as a furby, which can be a little neat. Wouldn't buy it though.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by wodenokoto on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:02PM
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Standupmaths, from recent front page fame got sponsored to do a video on Vector, and it appears to be mostly a cross between a virtual assistant, like Alexis and a robot pet, like sony Aibo, with a form factor inspired by wall-e.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by Eduardo3rd on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:06PM
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“Needed at home - USB Power Adapter 5V, 1A or greater”
It’s a $250 device that doesn’t include a plug for the charger. I don’t know if that’s an effort to save money or reduce waste, but either way it strikes me as a way to guarantee a subset of customers are annoyed in their first 30 minutes of using the product.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by delecti on Saturday October 13, 2018 @07:45PM
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I just recently moved and I was astonished at how many superfluous cables and adapters I had. I definitely appreciate not getting more when I can reasonably be expected to have ones already. I have easily a dozen unoccupied USB ports within 10 feet of me.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by nikofeyn on Saturday October 13, 2018 @10:14PM
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it's not the same thing. they made significant upgrades, especially such that the embedded platform (basically a smartphone board) is powerful enough to run the sdk without having a smartphone tethered like comzo had to have.
These things really make me mad - the nabaztag I mean, because of the wasted potential. I bought one, my kid loved it, it's super cute wonderful. The api sucks, most of the things didn't work, it has a built in RSS reader (evidently, but the RSS reader supposedly works by compiling the feed down into an application and downloading that and executing it and none of the feeds I tried to get to work [that they recommended] ever worked). aaaarggghhh, really the design of the thing is wonderful. It should take over the world, by the design, but the functionality made it so it didn't do so.
I mean I hate it so much and I am still tempted to buy a new one despite the things that were messed up because 1. those things that were messed up might be fixed by now, they were not insurmountable. Some of them were really the easy bits.
2. the things that did work showed just really good design ideas.
I want one again, but I also want not to feel screwed over.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by zan2434 on Saturday October 13, 2018 @03:37PM
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I don't understand. How does it respond to your queries? For weather it seems to animate little rain droplets on the screen, but in the example: "what's an epsilon?" they never show it actually answering.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by syntaxing on Saturday October 13, 2018 @09:29PM
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I've been following this since it's been announced and it is a really cool idea. But I agree with most of the people here that there is a limited sense of practicality for this product. The only thing I can see this being useful for is for education purposes. This would be great for schools, especially middle and high school. I even used a mindstorm for one of my graduate classes/lab to write our own algorithms (in nxc).
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by darepublic on Sunday October 14, 2018 @06:07PM
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Perhaps its ultimate usefulness might be augmented by people writing functionality using the SDK. Considering that it has wheels and is mobile (I assume) maybe the potential functionality is greater than that of stationary home assistants? I like the idea of a robot that has a few core features, a lot of potential functionality, and a solid SDK platform on which people can harness that potential. Don't know if this will live up to that notion but I find it interesting.
Re:Anki Vector: The Home Robot
by sharpercoder on Saturday October 13, 2018 @04:52PM
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I have now spent a few minutes on the website. I'm confused on to what robot it is offering? And what utility that robot then offers? In the video I see multiple robots. I don't see the robot actually offering any value.
I'd love to spend money on a robot, but I have no idea why I would spend money on this thing (things?)
"Hey Vector" is just "Hey Google" or "Hey Siri" or "Hey Alexa". For a lot less money you could just get a Google Home or Amazon Echo (Apple HomePod is a bit more) and they provide more functionality without the useless wheels.
and you conveniently ignored the coolest factor of vector, and that is it's soon to be released sdk. plus, what is possibly fun and cute about amazon echo and google home just sitting there doing nothing but being the ears of companies scheming on how to sell us more shit?
There's nothing wrong with toys. There's everything wrong with a "Super smart alive and aware AI" hype fest when what they mean is it's a partially functional google assistant with a pareidolic face.
> what is possibly fun and cute about amazon echo and google home just sitting there doing nothing
https://www.reddit.com/r/eyebombing/comments/5nttde/google_h...
Boom, solved. Look at how adorable that is. You could even put a hat on it.
There’s also the privacy aspect of Vector. Anki respects your privacy because your data isn’t used in the same way that it is by Google Home and Alexa (i.e. for ad targeting)
I have not (and probably will not) research in what sense the privacy of this device is better but from what little I've seen it is at least better. And if not I can't imagine Anki being less trustworthy than the others.
I see it as a furby, which can be a little neat. Wouldn't buy it though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ahdOqe5qBk
<rolls eyes>... So how smart?
"Weather, timer, take a photo, blackjack."
Ha, must be $5. Or $10, it's kinda cute.
"$249.99"
Piss off.
"Super smart AI, safely programmed one notch below too smart."
Yeah, if it could keep a calendar, man that'd be dangerous.
It’s a $250 device that doesn’t include a plug for the charger. I don’t know if that’s an effort to save money or reduce waste, but either way it strikes me as a way to guarantee a subset of customers are annoyed in their first 30 minutes of using the product.
What am I missing here?
[0]: https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/08/anki-has-sold-1-5-million-...
These things really make me mad - the nabaztag I mean, because of the wasted potential. I bought one, my kid loved it, it's super cute wonderful. The api sucks, most of the things didn't work, it has a built in RSS reader (evidently, but the RSS reader supposedly works by compiling the feed down into an application and downloading that and executing it and none of the feeds I tried to get to work [that they recommended] ever worked). aaaarggghhh, really the design of the thing is wonderful. It should take over the world, by the design, but the functionality made it so it didn't do so.
I mean I hate it so much and I am still tempted to buy a new one despite the things that were messed up because 1. those things that were messed up might be fixed by now, they were not insurmountable. Some of them were really the easy bits. 2. the things that did work showed just really good design ideas.
I want one again, but I also want not to feel screwed over.
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