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Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by mrfusion on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @02:32PM (#16757555)
Wild eyed idea. Could we run a cable across this. Have it turn a gear. Then gear it up to a one million to one ratio and turn a giant generator with the motion?

Free continental drift power?

Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by marshray on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @02:51PM (#16757718)
I love this idea, but the speed of separation is just a couple of cm per year. Unless the cable had absolutely no temperature expansion, weather changes would probably have a far greater effect on cable length than the imperceptible drift of the endpoints (which suggests another crazy idea interesting in its own right).

One might build this deep underground to minimize temperature changes and provide the hard rock anchor points necessary for the forces involved.

Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by sannee on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:16PM (#16758591)
> weather changes would probably have a far greater effect on cable length than the imperceptible drift of the endpoints (which suggests another crazy idea interesting in its own right)

There is a clock running for over a century based on a similar idea: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Clock

Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by userbinator on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @11:07PM (#16761463)
...and the commercial version, which is still in production:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmos_clock

Not cheap (few k$), but not as expensive as some other high-end timepieces either.

Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by NegativeLatency on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:46PM (#16758286)
Go deep enough and you might as well just build a geothermal power plant.
Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by theandrewbailey on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:33PM (#16758755)
Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by nojvek on Thursday April 05, 2018 @08:47PM (#16770087)
Kenya generates 47% of power from geothermal and 35% from hydro. For a third world country, it’s quite greener than most developed nations. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/business/geothermal-en...

I do hope Kenya gets a electric car boom, because all of it’s fuel is imported. Solar + other methods could power the whole economy with relative ease. Being on equator means plenty of sun throughout the year.

Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by deadmetheny on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:52PM (#16758366)
Which would have the side effect of actually generating power!
Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by avz on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:22PM (#16758644)
> Unless the cable had absolutely no temperature expansion...

One might be able to get a composite with very close to zero thermal expansion coefficient by linking stages made of materials with positive and negative [1] coefficients.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_thermal_expansion

Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by jmharvey on Thursday April 05, 2018 @12:44AM (#16761837)
You don't even need to use exotic materials with negative thermal expansion: instead, you can use a combination of materials with different coefficients of thermal expansion pointed in opposite directions. This was one of the innovations that John Harrison made that allowed him to make precision timepieces.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gridiron_pendulum

Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by z3t4 on Thursday April 05, 2018 @04:26AM (#16762942)
You could use a couple of anchors so that when it only moves 1mm the end attached to the gear would move several meters. Where the gear is really huge which makes the small gear spin faster. But it might still be too slow.
Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by IdiocyInAction on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @02:43PM (#16757651)
Seems like someone already had that idea, atleast for the continental shelf: https://patents.google.com/patent/US8258638
Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by SteveNuts on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @02:41PM (#16757638)
Something with that much gear ratio would essentially be locked. It would most likely just tear the mechanism apart before it did any actual work.
Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by agumonkey on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:37PM (#16758177)
Then a thousands of them over the split with a thousands less ratio :P
Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by jacquesm on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:07PM (#16757865)
You'd stand a better chance to get that to work by using hydraulic pistons that are used to compress a working fluid using an appropriately placed lever.
Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by pvg on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @06:50PM (#16760053)
There’s lots of other ‘free’ and ‘infinite’ energy around that is much easier to collect. You could go to the moon and make strawberry jam and then market it as ‘Space Jam’ but it’s simpler and cheaper to skip the whole moon part.
Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by deadmetheny on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @02:42PM (#16757641)
Considering the drift is occurring at a rate of a couple millimetres a year...no.
Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by rplnt on Thursday April 05, 2018 @04:17AM (#16762900)
With high enough gearing that is plenty. The issue is we are not capable of building strong enough gears.
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Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by dang on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:48PM (#16758904)
Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html, which ask you not to snark or to post shallow dismissals.

A good version of this comment would explain what's wrong with the original idea, so that readers who don't know could learn something.

Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by marshray on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @04:34PM (#16758768)
Physics taught me that all pulleys are frictionless.

Mechanical Engineering may find some issues with it though...

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Re:Large crack in East African Rift is evidence of continent... by krastanov on Wednesday April 04, 2018 @03:55PM (#16758388)
Or you both can consider stepping down from your high horses. It is a fun tongue-in-cheek idea, and the author explicitly mentioned the need for a gearbox. I am teaching physics and I will probably use this example in a lesson soon, because it is actually interesting to discuss why this idea would not work in practice (in principle all you need is indeed just a perfect gearbox).