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Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by shaki-dora on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:02AM (#13530138)
I run a hackintosh desktop with a i7-6700K, 32GB RAM, GTX960, Samsung 950PRO. It's quite the beast in terms of performance and I've had less trouble with drivers than I had with Linux.

That being said, I have a MacBook Pro as well, and it wouldn't feel right to install macOS on a Dell notebook. Considering the value macOS has for me, and other benefits of MacBooks (build quality, trackpad, possibly screen although I haven't seen the DELL), I feel the price is fair and I don't want to undermine those creating these excellent products – you may even want to consider what today's DELLs would be without Apple. I doubt that we'd have seen retina screens without their lead.

On the Desktop, where I do a lot of work in tensorflow, Apple just doesn't give me a choice. The graphics and CPU options aren't available, and if they were, it'd be almost a 5-digit sticker price. It's probably a net positive for them because it lowers the chances of me leaving Apple to run an illegal copy of macOS.

Note that setting up a hackintosh will probably cost you at least a day the first time, and anything from "it just worked" to another day every time you want to install an update. For a professional with opportunity costs, it's a losing proposition for notebooks. The hackintosh community is also extremely unprofessional, with many tools still on sourceforge, some doing strange things that appeared to me to be attempts to get paid for work incorporating GPL code, documentation being almost exclusively of the walkthrough-type (i. e.: "set uia_exclude=HS12" with no explanation to be found anywhere as to what "uia" or "HS12" are), and the worst user interfaces ever invented by anyone not working for a printer manufacturer.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by AsyncAwait on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:45AM (#13531487)
> I've had less trouble with drivers than I had with Linux.

I'd be interested to hear what kind of problems you had with Linux drivers on a desktop, that isn't something most of us, Linux users, had major problems with for almost a decade.

Even Pascal GPUs are supported, unlike on a Hackintosh.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by hysan on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:40AM (#13532171)
Not the OP, but since I have the attention of someone who seems confident, here is the problem I have with Linux GPU drivers.

I have a desktop that's been running strong for over half a decade with Windows 7: core i7-920, dual GeForce GTS 250 graphics card (identical, no SLI bridge). It's hooked up to 3 monitors with 2 on the first card, and 1 on the second. On Windows, this works completely fine.

On Linux however, I only have one ancient version of Linux Mint Debian Edition with an old version of the Nvidia drivers working. But only in a configuration where each screen is a separate X session, so no moving windows across monitors. That's fine by me, but I don't use this install anymore because everything is out of date.

On any recent distro of Linux, the default is to use Nouveau drivers which can get all screens to activate after messing with the configurations. BUT, I either run into screen flickering, invisible mouse cursor, instability, or poor performance. That is issue #1. My thinking is ok, back to Nvidia drivers. They install fine, but I cannot get any combination of settings to activate all 3 screens either as one X session (third screen never works) or as separate X sessions like in my old install (depending on the DE I choose, either no DE is launched on the other monitors, or they do launch but the only way to run programs on the other X sessions is to manually configure the DISPLAY value to those screens and launch the program in a terminal).

Ignoring the fact that I had to give up on using the GUI configuration programs and edit xorg files like I was back in the 2000s, can you figure out a way to get my environment working in a sane manner?

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by tetraodonpuffer on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @02:26PM (#13534277)
I think you are mixing things up, if like you say

> as separate X sessions like in my old install (depending on the DE I choose, either no DE is launched on the other monitors, or they do launch but the only way to run programs on the other X sessions is to manually configure the DISPLAY value to those screens and launch the program in a terminal).

the issue is not with the drivers, but with whatever DE you want to use. Since the vast, vast majority of people nowadays do not run multiple X screens, there isn't a lot of interest on the part of desktop environment coders to get them working (also because likely they don't have that hardware themselves and so can't try it either)

I personally also run two separate nvidia cards with two separate X screens on them, I run i3 but have had to patch several things to get it to work well enough for myself, it was doable for me to patch i3 due to having spent many years deep into X11/Xt way back, but definitely not something the average user could do and not something useful enough to a large enough number of people to warrant including in it for everybody

A desktop environment coded to expect that it's run once per computer in general won't like being launched twice in parallel (one for each screen), if you want something easy I suggest doing something like running KDE on your primary card and Gnome on the other: you will very likely have to mess with your .xinitrc to launch each separately on :0.0 and :0.1 but it should be doable

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by hysan on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @03:05PM (#13534694)
Not mixing things up as I understand part of the issue lies with the DE. But that's only with separate X sessions. As I wrote, the first thing I attempted was to run it as a single X session which simply did not work. That is a driver issue. If the OP's claim that drivers are a non-issue were really true, then I wouldn't even need to attempt separate X sessions.

I only mentioned the separate X session part because that has been suggested as a "workaround" for over half a decade; hence why I even have that setup on my old install. I was simply anticipating someone posting a response claiming that it would work with such a configuration as I know the inevitable answer (I revisit trying Linux on this computer maybe once a year).

> Since the vast, vast majority of people nowadays do not run multiple X screens, there isn't a lot of interest on the part of desktop environment coders to get them working (also because likely they don't have that hardware themselves and so can't try it either)

Yup, I get that it's uncommon. It's just sad that what used to work years ago has regressed and simply does not work at all anymore. I also considered doing the .xinitrc thing you suggested, but stopped myself from wasting more time as it would just result in a frankenstein DE that wouldn't be very usable (Gnome & KDE are quite far apart in usability philosophy).

(edit: Also remember that to a non-technical user, they would simply try what the GUI suggests. Nvidia defaults to separate X sessions across different cards. Since DEs don't work with that configuration anymore, that would appear no different than a driver issue to the end user.)

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by nitrogen on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @07:45PM (#13537015)
I haven't tried Xinerama in ages (is it still called that?), but even simple dual-monitor single-GPU setups have problems in KDE on Kubuntu 16.10 (plasma swaps monitordls, stacks widgets on one monitor, ignores a monitor, all randomly; I added a startup script to kill and relaunch plasma after a delay). This constant regression in features is what I dislike most about Linux lately. Eternal September in software form.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by hysan on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:53PM (#13537469)
Xinerama can be enabled but has been deprecated for a long time now (circa before I built said desktop). If you do decide to use it, you'll have to learn to live with the many problems and bugs that comes with using something that hasn't been updated in years.

> This constant regression in features is what I dislike most about Linux lately. Eternal September in software form.

This is what pushed me from using Linux full time for almost a decade to jumping ship to Apple a year ago. That and people like AsyncAwait who never seem to respond to people like me who post concrete real world problems despite claiming everything negative is FUD.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by kkielhofner on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:29AM (#13531993)
It would be really nice if there was a stable, maintained, and officially supported virtual machine implementation for OS X. I have an insane desktop running Linux that can do anything and everything I need. However, if my needs suddenly expanded to include occasional Photoshop use (for example) I'd have to pull out my Macbook Pro. Yes, in my case I also have a Windows 10 VM for occasional use (probably Photoshop, don't know) but I'd much prefer OS X.

I understand why a Mac OS X virtual machine might not be completely compatible with Apple's overall business model but perhaps something available through the Apple developer program? Something, anything, would be nice.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by mschuster91 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @03:00PM (#13534634)
> It would be really nice if there was a stable, maintained, and officially supported virtual machine implementation for OS X.

I believe that there's a DLL patcher for Windows VMware that allows OS X guests. Back when I tried it last time, it worked nicely but then again I only used it for creating USB install media for repairing / reinstalling broken Macs and didn't require stuff like high-performance USB or GPU acceleration.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by thatcat on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:54PM (#13533896)
This [0] tracks issues for a vagrant macOS setup. Not official, but its technically allowed if you already own a mac that runs the version you want.

[0]https://github.com/AndrewDryga/vagrant-box-osx

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by bostand on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @03:07PM (#13534709)
I can confirm this works reasonably well and includes xcode and some other stuff IIRC.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by seanp2k2 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:07PM (#13537167)
On a Dell XPS 15 9550:

- Trackpad is awful and all the synaptics software and tweaks and configs I've tried can't make it work half as well as a MBP trackpad - graphics switching + sleep + power brick replugging + lid closing doesn't work ever - high power usage unless powertop --autotune is run, which breaks USB replugging and causes more havoc with sleep - mfg defect with the ribbon cable under the space bar causing the space bar to be almost unusable. Required a new keyboard and me tearing the whole thing apart to fix

The screen is gorgeous though (thin bezels + 4K IGZO + capacitive touch which I don't need) and the hinge works well even when touching it. Build quality is OK but not micron-level perfect like MBPs (the seam where the metal meets the bottom shell is off by a tiny bit and catches my finger). The power brick is bigger than an MBP equivalent and they're not ubiquitous as the MagSafe2s now are. Having real USB ports is nice, since I hate the USB dongle I have Velcro'd to the USB-C power cable for the tbMBP.

It also doesn't run Mac OS, which FWIW on the 2016 tbMBP fares about as well as the Dell with re-plugging two 4K DP USB alt-mode adapters -- I end up hard-powering the MBP >50% of the time since the internal displays and external displays won't show anything, even though the stupid touch bar lights up.

I got the Dell used on eBay for about half of retail, which is about what I consider it to be worth, while I consider the 2015 rMBP to be worth ~$1600 and the 2016 tbMBP much less.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by sgt101 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @03:04PM (#13534684)
Last time I tried to convert to ubuntu on a top end HP notebook I had display, camera, fingerprint and trackpad driver roadblocks (two years ago, but not a decade). I had a roadblock on a 10 point multitouch screen this year.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by trome on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @07:55PM (#13537087)
Huh, I've had no troubles with HP AIOs running Debian Jessie, touchscreen works, so do the capacitive buttons controlling screen brightness/volume, and dual monitor works fine on everything (VGA, DVI, HDMI) except displayport.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by simooooo on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:29AM (#13531996)
Nvidia drivers making the display go black on boot still happens every time
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by pavanky on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:10AM (#13531731)
There's no reasoning with some folks..
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by jeron on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:26AM (#13531958)
something something mac fanboys
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by widforss on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:07AM (#13530167)
Build quality, trackpad and screen are the hallmarks of the XPS13 line. However, it seems very risky to install this on a laptop, since driver support and such will change on Apple's whim.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by IanCal on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:28AM (#13531306)
Anecdotal, but my XPS13 is nowhere near the quality of a mac.

The trackpad has problems jumping about occasionally, the wifi is unreliable to say the least (linux, but I think also on windows) and the fan spins up sounding like it's catching on something. The audio quality is atrocious.

Oh and really bad coil whine as well, a problem I've never had with macs.

However, it's fairly alright and significantly cheaper.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ahassan on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:33AM (#13531361)
I just bought an XPS 13 9360 and returned it due to the coil whine. I've never had that issue on my Macs before so once I get refunded I'm going to buy a MBP instead.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by acomar on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:14AM (#13531785)
I've been hearing about the coil whine for ages, but I've never heard it over multiple 9550s and a 9360. I'm even in an office right now surrounded by the 9550s which were supposed to be plagued by the issue. Is it that the whine is occurring at a frequency I can't hear?
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by jeron on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:28AM (#13531973)
my T450s has coil whine but you have to be in a dead silent room to hear it, I assume it would be the same for the Dells
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by IanCal on Thursday February 02, 2017 @04:21AM (#13549201)
It's loud enough on my 9350 I can hear it clearly over the top of music or videos playing.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by mattdotc on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:44AM (#13531481)
FWIW, I replaced my WiFi/Bluetooth adapter immediately upon receiving my 9343. I had been following the XPS13 developer edition forums for a while, and the adapter that shipped with most XPS13 had a Broadcom chipset with bad Linux support. An Intel card was recommended instead. I actually had my card on-hand hand ready to go the day I received the laptop shipment.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RCZ4I6S/ref=od_aui_deta...

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by snuxoll on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:01AM (#13531651)
Ironically I swapped the Intel 7260 in my XPS 13 9333 out for a Broadcom chip since every ~10 seconds the thing would flake out and I'd get a spike in latency >300ms - made normal web browsing a pain, voice calls were annoying beyond belief.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by compuguy on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:37AM (#13532130)
The broadcom wireless cards are garbage even on windows. My 9350 came with one, and it caused issues with the thunderbolt dock and other type c devices.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by amarks on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:57PM (#13533930)
There's a large difference between XPS 13 models. The 9343 was brilliant for what it was, the 9350 was a bit of a lemon, and the 9360 is the best yet.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by mulletbum on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:52AM (#13530488)
I have to source for it, but I can't imagine any laptop having a better trackpad than MBP. Any idea how good in comparison it is?
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by tatoalo on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:06AM (#13530596)
I've tried both the XPS 13 trackpad and the MBP 13 & 15 late 2016. I feel pretty safe to say that the XPS has by far the best trackpad experience on any Windows-based laptop I've tried but it's very much behind the MBP (IMHO!).
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by gigatexal on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:57AM (#13531003)
Yep the trackpad is what brought me to Apple and OS X is what kept me loyal.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by tatoalo on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @02:09PM (#13534083)
On the late 2016 models I was honestly worried that the dimension changes introduced were a little bit too much. After a couple of weeks I haven't found any reason for going back to the previous generation, MacOS Sierra palm rejection software is pure magic and gestures across the entire OS are super smooth!
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by jpkeisala on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:16PM (#13533447)
I switched from Macbook Air to XPS 13 in December. I would not say XPS is _very_ much behind on trackback at least when comparing to Air, not sure if MBP has different trackback?
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ianai on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:12PM (#13533401)
Then you got lucky. My trackpad skips around horribly on my xps13. I can't believe how horrible that trackpad is.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by AdmiralAsshat on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @04:24PM (#13535372)
Not sure if your XPS13 is running Win10 or Linux.

Anecdotally, I've got Fedora on mine, and I noticed a huge difference in the trackpad responsiveness when I switched from the Synaptics driver over to libinput. Palm detection got way better, for one thing.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ianai on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:26PM (#13537303)
It's running Win10 and I've installed different drivers. It works ok after changing various settings and using my pointer and ring finger instead of pointer and middle finger for scrolling.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ergo14 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:27AM (#13530756)
I like trackpad on my Dell better than on my mbpro. But i think it is matter of personal preference. I like the friction it gives.

But keyboard on my dell is leagues ahead of mbp hands down.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by coldtea on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:58AM (#13531616)
>But i think it is matter of personal preference.

Not wanting the cursor to stall and then jump around is not personal preference though.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ergo14 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:36AM (#13532114)
You never had a modern Latitude/XPS laptop in your hands then - every mac person I showed my laptops touchpad admitted that they are equally good.

Gestures work perfectly, the cursor never jumps around either - unlike other laptops with crappy touchpads.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by mcintyre1994 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:41AM (#13530878)
Like you said, personal preference - I have the Dell at work and a MBP 2015 with the force touch trackpad at home, and I much prefer the macbook - the Dell requires more force to register a click the further away from the bottom where the MBP is even.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by bostand on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @03:13PM (#13534756)
Aren't all these configurable in Windows? I'm pretty sure you can set it exactly the way you want...
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by mcintyre1994 on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @08:40AM (#13540597)
Not that I can see but I could be wrong. I think the Apple one is just perfectly even because it's not mechanical, which I prefer.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by bostand on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @05:02PM (#13545773)
If you don't see it under the advanced mouse settings (or whatever its called) something is wrong. Most likely you don't have the correct drivers, which is odd since they are installed automatically...
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by Someone1234 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:15AM (#13531185)
For me the top keyboard is the non-Touchbar MBPs.

Touchbar MBP's keyboard is a huge downgrade and I agree that the XPS 13's keyboard is superior. I have no idea why Apple ruined one of the best keyboard in the industry with the Touchbar range.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by widforss on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:03AM (#13530564)
I haven't used a MBP myself, but according to head-to-head reviews [1][2] the MBP trackpad is better. The XPS one is really great though.

[1] http://www.alphr.com/laptops/1002278/dell-xps-13-vs-macbook-...

[2] http://www.itpro.co.uk/laptops/21797/macbook-pro-15in-v-dell...

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by CalRobert on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:29AM (#13530782)
I use an XPS 13 and 2016 MBP daily. They both have great trackpads.

The only place where the XPS 13 is inferior in terms of build quality, so far as I can tell, is coil whine. I believe they've fixed that in the most recent versions.

Also, even though it's not a big deal I'd rather not have a touch screen at all as I do on the XPS. It's useless, and registers touches when I close the lid (I prefer not to suspend if I'm just walking from one room to another)

Edit: I should note I use Ubuntu exclusively on the XPS 13. I don't know what the trackpad is like in Windows. Presumably it's comparable.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by haspok on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:17AM (#13531203)
They did not fix the coil whine. Nor the dynamic screen brightness issue. Just FYI. Oh, and the I2S mode for audio is still broken in the latest kernels (headset microphone not recognized, loud pops at power saving switchoffs), so I have to use Ubuntu to get a HDA-enabled kernel out of the box.

Also my XPS13 is 2 years old and the "carbon fiber" cover started to disintegrate along the edges. The screen hinge is a bit loose so it wobbles a bit with movement.

Other than that it's fab :)

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by compuguy on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:31PM (#13533615)
The fix for the dynamic screen brightness is to flash a firmware that dell provides for the HIDPI display. If you have the 1080p display, you are out of luck.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ahassan on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:35AM (#13531395)
Just bought a brand new 9360 and the coil whine is definitely not gone.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by vlan0 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:49AM (#13531524)
This is the truth. Apple has mastered the trackpad. I've used some Lenovo trackpads that I would say are close, but Apple still holds this crown without a doubt.

The general shoddy build quality of most manufacturers, combined with the fact that Apple would likely sue the pants off of trackpad "clones", is my reasoning for why all other trackpads are just functionally absent when compared to Apple.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by SomeHacker44 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:49AM (#13532321)
I'd love to run MacOS on excellent non-Apple laptop hardware.

I have the max-spec new 13" Touch Bar MBP, and it's a terrible laptop. The keyboard is so loud I have been banned from using it in the bedroom at night - a practice I have been doing for the entirety of my marriage. The TouchBar is so useless at night and for development work (where I extensively use ESC and F-keys) that I literally have to put another keyboard on top of the laptop.

So, please, give me MacOS running on a similar-spec non-Apple laptop with a proper, quiet keyboard and I will thank you form the bottom of my heart (and my bedroom).

I will say that the Track Pad on the latest MBP is really very nice.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by Synaesthesia on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:27PM (#13533544)
You're not gonna get a better Mac laptop than a real Mac like yours.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by jedrek on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:27AM (#13530761)
> I've had less trouble with drivers than I had with Linux.

My hackintosh (currently on my second one, it's a 2012 i5 machine) has less stability and driver issues than Windows 10 on the same hardware.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by kitsunesoba on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:23PM (#13532790)
I haven't tried newer versions of Windows, but the 2008 Dell workstation laptop I used for a few years was more stable under OS X than under Windows 7 or Linux. Windows 7 had an issue where the laptop's Quadro graphics card would blue screen whenever power management kicked in, that to my knowledge still isn't fixed in driver updates (the community "fix" was to keep the card running at full speed all the time). Under Linux, the graphics was an issue too — nouveau gave lackluster performance and proprietary drivers would periodically lock up.

Hackintoshed OS X (10.9 Mavericks in this case) just treats the card as an 9600M GT and runs it without issue. No panics, no lockups, and no performance hit.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by shaki-dora on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:49AM (#13530953)
Yeah, I've had some trouble with driver availability (the onboard bluetooth doesn't work). But nothing has ever crashed, graphics and SSD performance are what the hardware offers, even sleep works flawlessly. And I had originally planned to use Linux and hadn't even researched the hardware.

Made me think about the argument that Windows needs to support so many hardware combinations that <X> which I seem to remember sometimes hearing :) Although, to be fair, I obviously bought rather mainstream components and am not running RAIDs etc.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by cptskippy on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:42AM (#13530887)
Upgraded Windows 10, clean install with Manufacturer's drivers, or truely clean install?

I've found that only by avoiding drivers direct from the manufacturer do you ever achieve true stability in Windows.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by TheOneTrueKyle on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:19PM (#13532729)
As a side note: I have a hackintosh, with an i7 skylake, a Titian Black, 32 GB of ram running macOS Sierra and I am having an issue with sound and USB 3.0 drivers. Every time my computer goes to sleep, USB and sound stop working.

Loving the Hackintosh, but I lose a lot of my life anytime I want to change something.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by e40 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:34AM (#13530363)
I found the setup far more than a day. It took me weeks to research which hardware to buy, since what hardware you have directly affects your life after the install.

And for dot dot releases, I had a terrible time with updates because I really, really wanted a RAID 1 for my system drive (using an approved hw RAID card). Turns out, this is a very rare setup, but one that made upgrades between minor macOS releases very tricky, with the tools provided. And I got almost no help from the forums (because no one there had done it).

After two years, I gave up and got a Mac Pro 6,1. And, even though the video card I had was very beefy, Lightroom performance was much better with the nMP, I guess because Adobe supported the standard video card in the nMP but not the one in the hackintosh.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by grecy on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @02:01PM (#13533970)
I ran OS X on a Dell Mini 9 laptop as my primary machine for a few years. It was fantastic and I loved it.

That being said, the more I used it, the more it made me want Apple hardware. The keyboard, trackpad, screen, magsafe, etc.

I'm now using a MBA 12" and could not be happier.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by djdmngz on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @03:16PM (#13534781)
Wow. I used to run Ubuntu on the Mini 9 almost a decade ago (bought it with Ubuntu preloaded) and used Xmonad. It wouldn't have crossed my mind that OS X would run at all on one, given that by their nature, the Mini 9 was meant to be the least expensive Dell.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by khedoros1 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @07:13PM (#13536821)
Around the time that building a Hackintosh became possible, I remember running it on an IBM R32, which I think was released in 2002. It was a useable system, except for wifi (it wouldn't recognize my PCMCIA adapter).
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by zarex on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @04:25PM (#13535383)
Hackintosh is a finnicky beast. Price doesn't have anything to do with hardware support :)
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by bdcravens on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @12:24PM (#13532805)
> I feel the price is fair

> Note that setting up a hackintosh will probably cost you at least a day the first time

I think they're fun to tinker with (reminds me of building a Linux machine circa 1999) but unless your time is free they're usually not a cost savings (though in your desktop use case the numbers may work out)

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by Synaesthesia on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:28PM (#13533556)
It works quite well on Dell laptops. There are some issues with power management but it's worth the trouble if you can do it.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by zaius on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:15AM (#13531804)
Which motherboard are you using?
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by dstroot on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:35AM (#13530836)
So well said. This is spot on.