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Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by widforss on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:07AM (#13530167)
Build quality, trackpad and screen are the hallmarks of the XPS13 line. However, it seems very risky to install this on a laptop, since driver support and such will change on Apple's whim.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by IanCal on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:28AM (#13531306)
Anecdotal, but my XPS13 is nowhere near the quality of a mac.

The trackpad has problems jumping about occasionally, the wifi is unreliable to say the least (linux, but I think also on windows) and the fan spins up sounding like it's catching on something. The audio quality is atrocious.

Oh and really bad coil whine as well, a problem I've never had with macs.

However, it's fairly alright and significantly cheaper.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ahassan on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:33AM (#13531361)
I just bought an XPS 13 9360 and returned it due to the coil whine. I've never had that issue on my Macs before so once I get refunded I'm going to buy a MBP instead.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by acomar on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:14AM (#13531785)
I've been hearing about the coil whine for ages, but I've never heard it over multiple 9550s and a 9360. I'm even in an office right now surrounded by the 9550s which were supposed to be plagued by the issue. Is it that the whine is occurring at a frequency I can't hear?
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by jeron on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:28AM (#13531973)
my T450s has coil whine but you have to be in a dead silent room to hear it, I assume it would be the same for the Dells
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by IanCal on Thursday February 02, 2017 @04:21AM (#13549201)
It's loud enough on my 9350 I can hear it clearly over the top of music or videos playing.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by mattdotc on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:44AM (#13531481)
FWIW, I replaced my WiFi/Bluetooth adapter immediately upon receiving my 9343. I had been following the XPS13 developer edition forums for a while, and the adapter that shipped with most XPS13 had a Broadcom chipset with bad Linux support. An Intel card was recommended instead. I actually had my card on-hand hand ready to go the day I received the laptop shipment.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RCZ4I6S/ref=od_aui_deta...

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by snuxoll on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:01AM (#13531651)
Ironically I swapped the Intel 7260 in my XPS 13 9333 out for a Broadcom chip since every ~10 seconds the thing would flake out and I'd get a spike in latency >300ms - made normal web browsing a pain, voice calls were annoying beyond belief.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by compuguy on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:37AM (#13532130)
The broadcom wireless cards are garbage even on windows. My 9350 came with one, and it caused issues with the thunderbolt dock and other type c devices.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by amarks on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:57PM (#13533930)
There's a large difference between XPS 13 models. The 9343 was brilliant for what it was, the 9350 was a bit of a lemon, and the 9360 is the best yet.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by mulletbum on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:52AM (#13530488)
I have to source for it, but I can't imagine any laptop having a better trackpad than MBP. Any idea how good in comparison it is?
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by tatoalo on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:06AM (#13530596)
I've tried both the XPS 13 trackpad and the MBP 13 & 15 late 2016. I feel pretty safe to say that the XPS has by far the best trackpad experience on any Windows-based laptop I've tried but it's very much behind the MBP (IMHO!).
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by gigatexal on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:57AM (#13531003)
Yep the trackpad is what brought me to Apple and OS X is what kept me loyal.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by tatoalo on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @02:09PM (#13534083)
On the late 2016 models I was honestly worried that the dimension changes introduced were a little bit too much. After a couple of weeks I haven't found any reason for going back to the previous generation, MacOS Sierra palm rejection software is pure magic and gestures across the entire OS are super smooth!
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by jpkeisala on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:16PM (#13533447)
I switched from Macbook Air to XPS 13 in December. I would not say XPS is _very_ much behind on trackback at least when comparing to Air, not sure if MBP has different trackback?
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ianai on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:12PM (#13533401)
Then you got lucky. My trackpad skips around horribly on my xps13. I can't believe how horrible that trackpad is.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by AdmiralAsshat on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @04:24PM (#13535372)
Not sure if your XPS13 is running Win10 or Linux.

Anecdotally, I've got Fedora on mine, and I noticed a huge difference in the trackpad responsiveness when I switched from the Synaptics driver over to libinput. Palm detection got way better, for one thing.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ianai on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @08:26PM (#13537303)
It's running Win10 and I've installed different drivers. It works ok after changing various settings and using my pointer and ring finger instead of pointer and middle finger for scrolling.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ergo14 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:27AM (#13530756)
I like trackpad on my Dell better than on my mbpro. But i think it is matter of personal preference. I like the friction it gives.

But keyboard on my dell is leagues ahead of mbp hands down.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by coldtea on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:58AM (#13531616)
>But i think it is matter of personal preference.

Not wanting the cursor to stall and then jump around is not personal preference though.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ergo14 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @11:36AM (#13532114)
You never had a modern Latitude/XPS laptop in your hands then - every mac person I showed my laptops touchpad admitted that they are equally good.

Gestures work perfectly, the cursor never jumps around either - unlike other laptops with crappy touchpads.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by mcintyre1994 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:41AM (#13530878)
Like you said, personal preference - I have the Dell at work and a MBP 2015 with the force touch trackpad at home, and I much prefer the macbook - the Dell requires more force to register a click the further away from the bottom where the MBP is even.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by bostand on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @03:13PM (#13534756)
Aren't all these configurable in Windows? I'm pretty sure you can set it exactly the way you want...
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by mcintyre1994 on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @08:40AM (#13540597)
Not that I can see but I could be wrong. I think the Apple one is just perfectly even because it's not mechanical, which I prefer.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by bostand on Wednesday February 01, 2017 @05:02PM (#13545773)
If you don't see it under the advanced mouse settings (or whatever its called) something is wrong. Most likely you don't have the correct drivers, which is odd since they are installed automatically...
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by Someone1234 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:15AM (#13531185)
For me the top keyboard is the non-Touchbar MBPs.

Touchbar MBP's keyboard is a huge downgrade and I agree that the XPS 13's keyboard is superior. I have no idea why Apple ruined one of the best keyboard in the industry with the Touchbar range.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by widforss on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:03AM (#13530564)
I haven't used a MBP myself, but according to head-to-head reviews [1][2] the MBP trackpad is better. The XPS one is really great though.

[1] http://www.alphr.com/laptops/1002278/dell-xps-13-vs-macbook-...

[2] http://www.itpro.co.uk/laptops/21797/macbook-pro-15in-v-dell...

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by CalRobert on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @09:29AM (#13530782)
I use an XPS 13 and 2016 MBP daily. They both have great trackpads.

The only place where the XPS 13 is inferior in terms of build quality, so far as I can tell, is coil whine. I believe they've fixed that in the most recent versions.

Also, even though it's not a big deal I'd rather not have a touch screen at all as I do on the XPS. It's useless, and registers touches when I close the lid (I prefer not to suspend if I'm just walking from one room to another)

Edit: I should note I use Ubuntu exclusively on the XPS 13. I don't know what the trackpad is like in Windows. Presumably it's comparable.

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by haspok on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:17AM (#13531203)
They did not fix the coil whine. Nor the dynamic screen brightness issue. Just FYI. Oh, and the I2S mode for audio is still broken in the latest kernels (headset microphone not recognized, loud pops at power saving switchoffs), so I have to use Ubuntu to get a HDA-enabled kernel out of the box.

Also my XPS13 is 2 years old and the "carbon fiber" cover started to disintegrate along the edges. The screen hinge is a bit loose so it wobbles a bit with movement.

Other than that it's fab :)

Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by compuguy on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @01:31PM (#13533615)
The fix for the dynamic screen brightness is to flash a firmware that dell provides for the HIDPI display. If you have the 1080p display, you are out of luck.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by ahassan on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:35AM (#13531395)
Just bought a brand new 9360 and the coil whine is definitely not gone.
Re:XPS9350-macOS – macOS patches for Dell XPS 13 9350 by vlan0 on Tuesday January 31, 2017 @10:49AM (#13531524)
This is the truth. Apple has mastered the trackpad. I've used some Lenovo trackpads that I would say are close, but Apple still holds this crown without a doubt.

The general shoddy build quality of most manufacturers, combined with the fact that Apple would likely sue the pants off of trackpad "clones", is my reasoning for why all other trackpads are just functionally absent when compared to Apple.