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Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by hitekker on Saturday December 12, 2015 @05:46PM (#10724492)
I recall that in the beginnings of World War I, planes were primarily used as surveillance tools. So the germans and french would send their planes above a battlefield, and the pilots would see each other, sometimes even wave at each as they passed by.

A little bit later someone brought a shotgun on one of the planes and the rest is literal history.

Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by adrtessier on Saturday December 12, 2015 @06:15PM (#10724595)
I'm very curious as to what the reaction was of the first pilot that was shot at. My guess is he was probably be thinking more "Wow, what an asshole," than he would be thinking that the aggressor's action makes sense in the context of war.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by hanniabu on Sunday December 13, 2015 @03:59AM (#10725819)
That probably was their reaction considering it's usually the governments that have issues with each other, not the people. For instance, I have no problem with Russians or Chinese, I think in general they're nice people, as with any population, but our governments have problems with each other and that causes us to fight.

I get we're, for the most part, fighting the ideologies of the other country, but it's a real shame we can't live in peace. It's the few bad apples - the greedy, the criminals, the oppressors, the deceiving - that ruin it for everybody.

Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by collyw on Sunday December 13, 2015 @05:26PM (#10728250)
That generally how I think when I "dislike" a nation. Its not individuals, but the governments.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by quizme2000 on Saturday December 12, 2015 @08:31PM (#10725021)
Probably the thought, "Next time I'm bringing a machine gun!"
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by HillaryBriss on Saturday December 12, 2015 @09:05PM (#10725112)
That's exactly what the little drone said when it got stuck in the police drone's net.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by michaelcampbell on Saturday December 12, 2015 @09:01PM (#10725102)
> "Wow, what an asshole,"

Which has a long history between the Germans and French...

Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by ekianjo on Saturday December 12, 2015 @11:50PM (#10725454)
Much longer between Brits and French.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by taytus on Saturday December 12, 2015 @10:46PM (#10725348)
Maybe something like - " Bruh... Seriously dude?"
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by lotharbot on Saturday December 12, 2015 @10:50PM (#10725357)
The version of this I heard is that the first air-to-air shots were fired during the Border War (US / Mexico) in around 1911 or 1912. Somebody unloaded his six-shooter and didn't hit a darn thing.

Just before WWI, Caproni designed an airplane with a machine gun mounted above the propeller [0], but the military wasn't that interested in it. It wasn't until the invention of the interrupter gear (credited in part to Roland Garros and part to Anthony Fokker) that air-to-air combat got to be really deadly, on account of pilots being able to fire accurately at other aircraft.

[0] http://www.museumofflight.org/aircraft/caproni-ca20

Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by hayksaakian on Saturday December 12, 2015 @11:44PM (#10725446)
Note that prior to that gear you would hit your own propeller.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by Xylakant on Sunday December 13, 2015 @12:28AM (#10725514)
Before, Machine guns were either mounted outside the propeller circle (which made aiming harder) or propellers had deflectors on the back which made them less efficient.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by JWLong on Sunday December 13, 2015 @01:57AM (#10725646)
... and a little (quite) dangerous.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by HelloMcFly on Saturday December 12, 2015 @06:24PM (#10724636)
I heard bags of bricks were one of the first weapons brought to the skies. This is the type of thing prone for many apocryphal stories.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by chippy on Sunday December 13, 2015 @08:20AM (#10726268)
I heard that they were dropping hand grenades and bombs on people below before shooting other planes in the air.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by dutchbrit on Friday December 11, 2015 @12:06PM (#10718226)
People will probably start building bigger drones with bigger nets to catch the police drones. It's just a matter of time.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by informatimago on Friday December 11, 2015 @01:20PM (#10718820)
or smaller drones to go thru the nets. or drones that don't look like drones:

http://www.mybionicbird.com/

http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/insectdrone.asp

Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by glup on Saturday December 12, 2015 @05:16PM (#10724383)
"Bionic Bird benefits from strict quality controls that are so rigorous that each bird is built like a prototype." ....um, what?
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by jonathankoren on Saturday December 12, 2015 @06:05PM (#10724553)
Ehhh.... Reminds me of the story about when the Soviets were cloning the B-29 to make the Tu-4. Supposedly Stalin ordered an exact copy of the American bomber, and so the copies were made exact down to the bullet holes.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by leereeves on Saturday December 12, 2015 @06:53PM (#10724732)
What was Stalin's reaction?
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by maaku on Saturday December 12, 2015 @10:01PM (#10725231)
Don't know, nobody lived to tell about it.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by adolph on Monday December 14, 2015 @01:52PM (#10732976)
Bullet holes, brown M&Ms, it is all about attention to detail.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by recursive on Saturday December 12, 2015 @06:26PM (#10724641)
I think they might not have a native English speaker. Check out the title of this official video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFS2JWUkdvw
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by coderdude on Saturday December 12, 2015 @06:07PM (#10724560)
A flawed prototype does no one good. Could imply that the specs are high too.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by jayd16 on Saturday December 12, 2015 @04:57PM (#10724319)
Begun, the drone war has.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by Scarblac on Sunday December 13, 2015 @05:40AM (#10726015)
The ancient profession of netmaking will be completely relevant to high tech. Science fiction writers give up.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by ekianjo on Saturday December 12, 2015 @11:51PM (#10725456)
Or you know, swarm the skies with tons of small drones making it impossible for the police to catch them all at once.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by mrfusion on Saturday December 12, 2015 @09:04PM (#10725110)
Or bring scissors to cut the net?
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by decentrality on Saturday December 12, 2015 @09:10PM (#10725126)
Or drones with blades that cut as they turn.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by HillaryBriss on Saturday December 12, 2015 @09:13PM (#10725131)
None of these countermeasures will matter after the Tokyo police start injecting stomach acids that digest the victim drones from the inside out.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by anonfunction on Saturday December 12, 2015 @09:29PM (#10725166)
Short clip of the drone catching a drone:

https://gifs.com/gif/pYYzXr

Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by michaelcampbell on Saturday December 12, 2015 @04:54PM (#10724308)
Seems it would be equally effective, and a lot less weight, to just drape a bunch of monofilament lines below rather than a full-on net. Those would get tangled in the "bad" drone's rotors well enough, I'd reckon.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by adrtessier on Saturday December 12, 2015 @05:41PM (#10724472)
Running steel cable or nets, instead of monofilament wire, is pretty much SOP for denying an area from rotorcraft. There's a pretty cool article on Wikipedia about prison escapes by helicopter [1] that explains how this is often implemented in high-security correctional facilities.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_helicopter_prison_esca...

Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by seansmccullough on Saturday December 12, 2015 @09:56PM (#10725219)
I like it how there are green or red helicopter icons in the table to indicate success or failure.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by adrtessier on Saturday December 12, 2015 @10:40PM (#10725330)
Yeah, somebody had fun with that article. It's one of my favorites on Wikipedia.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by shpx on Saturday December 12, 2015 @07:49PM (#10724900)
But then you don't get the reusability, unless you have spools and can cut the lines, which probably gets you back to the weight of a net.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by leereeves on Saturday December 12, 2015 @06:56PM (#10724745)
A modern version of barrage balloons.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by bookmarkacc on Sunday December 13, 2015 @02:33AM (#10725700)
Is flying your drone away from the nets resisting arrest?
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by galapago on Saturday December 12, 2015 @05:19PM (#10724393)
Game of Drones!
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by samstave on Saturday December 12, 2015 @10:45PM (#10725341)
This is beyond funny/awesome to me. Apologies that this doesnt add anything to the discussion other than my own feelings about the comic-like start to the anime-style-cyberpunk-future we have all been subconsciously building for the last 70 years....
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by tibarun on Sunday December 13, 2015 @12:29PM (#10726997)
Do checkout: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/1155690... which is linked in that same article. It makes me wonder if these drone-catching techniques will be focused on Fukushima/nuclear related protests or fly-overs to get independent radiation measurements.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by BorisMelnik on Sunday December 13, 2015 @01:45AM (#10725625)
The only next counter-logical (criminal) course of action I can think of is counter thieves using drones with nets to catch the police drones with nets.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by tajen on Sunday December 13, 2015 @04:25AM (#10725875)
Or laser immolation? Or a cloud of little wires to clog the propellers? Magnetic attack? Helium balloon defense? As someone said above: Begun, the drone wars have.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by usrusr on Saturday December 12, 2015 @05:30PM (#10724431)
Can't decide between "fascinating high-tech solution (drone)" and "fascinating low-tech solution (net)". Which one is it?
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by HillaryBriss on Saturday December 12, 2015 @09:02PM (#10725105)
I don't know but my gut reaction to the video was: "That is so f---ing cool I can't even believe it."
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by awqrre on Saturday December 12, 2015 @04:51PM (#10724303)
Something like this seems like it would be more efficient: http://www.cadincadout.com/dronedefender-radio-gun-waves-dow...
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by kalleboo on Saturday December 12, 2015 @11:08PM (#10725393)
That seems dangerous if the quadcopter falls down in the middle of a freeway or something
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by damienkatz on Sunday December 13, 2015 @01:18AM (#10725574)
Right. And therefore rather pointless as the reason to capture these drones is because of safety issues.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by shmerl on Saturday December 12, 2015 @11:58PM (#10725464)
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by npunt on Saturday December 12, 2015 @09:19PM (#10725142)
Watching this gave me a distinct "the future is now" feeling. Odd-shaped hovering craft designed to take down other hovering crafts would look at home in most scifi movies.
Re:Tokyo police are using drones with nets to catch other dr... by maaku on Saturday December 12, 2015 @10:01PM (#10725232)
It's official: we're living in the future.