Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay'

Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by acd on Monday November 30, 2015 @03:09AM (#10648345)

I think the ruling is correct.

Should the electric utility also be involved, they provide electricity which is used for piracy. How about the makers of the CPU, the motherboard maker, the storage vendors?

Should the builders of roads be responsible for people speeding on it, how about car makers making cars that go above the speed limit should they be responsible?

As an individual I do have a moral right to pay for the digital media I consume so that new media will be produced and other people will not have to pay for my consumption.

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by samuirai on Monday November 30, 2015 @03:15AM (#10648358)

Funny that you mention "storage vendors". In Germany we have to pay a fee as compensation on storage like USB sticks, because it is potentially used to store copyright material. It's outrageous.

http://www.geek.com/news/germany-increases-usb-flash-drive-t...

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by tomp on Monday November 30, 2015 @04:15AM (#10648501)

I actually love this tax. It makes it morally, and possibly also legaly, excusable to share/pirate media.

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by ulber on Monday November 30, 2015 @05:34AM (#10648726)

Finland had a similar tax before. At least here the purpose of the tax was to offset the loss of income incurred from (perfectly legal) private copying (i.e. making copies for yourself or your close friends). In this sense our tax did not excuse piracy.

On the other hand one might not agree to offsetting costs from legal copying and use the tax as an excuse for piracy anyway.

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by tomp on Monday November 30, 2015 @05:37AM (#10648736)

Well, if the copying is legal, then noone deserves to be compesated for it, obviously.

Furthermore, I don't even agree with offsetting costs from illegal copying (since there are no provable costs), hence my moral interpretation of the tax.

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by malka on Monday November 30, 2015 @06:04AM (#10648803)

Same in France. I now pirate while feeling I have the right to do it. Thanks you deer government for this tax !

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by acd on Monday November 30, 2015 @03:41AM (#10648426)

Same in Sweden, why is a storage vendor more liable than a CPU or memory vendor?

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by function_seven on Monday November 30, 2015 @03:55AM (#10648458)

Devil's Advocate:

The storage device is where the copy of the copyrighted media resides. The CPU, speakers, headphones, video display, RAM, etc. are all transitory in their involvement of piracy; but the hard drive/USB stick is "where" the violation is taking place.

Again, devil's advocate here! This is mostly a thought exercise.

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by Natanael_L on Monday November 30, 2015 @04:45AM (#10648587)

Some media companies have tried to sue switch makers over the fact that their switches temporarily hold copies of the sent media in their cache without a license.

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by Confusion on Monday November 30, 2015 @04:55AM (#10648613)

So what if you watch the film shortly after download and remove it immediately after viewing? Transitory -> not instrumental in enabling piracy?

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by spost on Monday November 30, 2015 @01:14PM (#10650776)

Or even more directly, download to a ramdisk.

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by stpe on Monday November 30, 2015 @04:29AM (#10648532)

Looking forward to the upcoming documentary COPYGATE - A documentary about Copyswede that is addressing this. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/danielbramme/copygate

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by zwegner on Monday November 30, 2015 @05:05AM (#10648652)

In the US there's something like that, though with a narrower set of devices/media covered. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Home_Recording_Act

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by acz on Monday November 30, 2015 @04:56AM (#10648617)

It is the same in Russia. But does it implicate that, according to No-double-pay-for-one-service principle we can legally pirate stuff and store it on our storage drives?

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by rimantas on Monday November 30, 2015 @03:56AM (#10648461)

Same in Lithuania :(

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by acd on Monday November 30, 2015 @05:43AM (#10648749)

Another interesting thing is that many countries seem to have allowed home copying through taxing storage media but DRM prevents you exercising your legal friend/home copy right.

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Re:Swedish court: 'We cannot ban Pirate Bay' by Chris2048 on Monday November 30, 2015 @08:27AM (#10649232)

Actually, I kinda think car manufacturers should be made responsible... If they sell cars that can do above the highest speed limit in a country.

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