Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by dang on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @03:02PM
(#8597791)
We took "Show HN" out of the title. That's for when you're introducing a project, not adding new features. Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html.
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by sciurus on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @10:38AM
(#8595925)
Yes, my worst comment surprised me:
"That sounds like a good approach; reimplementing an existing API like EC2 or DO makes it easier to integrate your software with tools like Vagrant and Terraform."
Maybe the words "reimplementing" or "existing" triggered it? For you, maybe it was "torrents"?
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by Karunamon on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @10:17AM
(#8595781)
Cool, but it doesn't take retweets, @replies, and quoted replies into account. My worst comments over on Reddit are where I quote someone else who said something mean, and the same goes for Twitter.
And the results for HN are truly head-scratching. Use of the word "fucking" regardless of context is apparently enough to elevate a comment to "worst" status. (Watch me get a few points just for this comment alone!)
Don't get me wrong, this is a neat tool, but it's going to be misused in character assassinations on others, especially with its current presentation, where phrases are used like "troll score", "most insulting" and so on.
I'd really suggest toning that presentation down and emphasizing the fact that this is imperfect until the algorithm has been tweaked further.
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by mmahemoff on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @09:54AM
(#8595655)
This seems to be the default error message that's shown when the queue's too full to analyse a user. Which is probably not a great thing when the site's busy being upvoted on HN.
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by emhart on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @09:48AM
(#8595604)
Is there an upper limit to the number of characters this will analyze? I've gotten into arguments here & on reddit that, while civil, are certainly more vitriolic than what the script found. All I can think is that longer diatribes are ignored?
From HN:
"I've researched the "why" and a couple years ago had the opportunity to discuss some of the broader ideas in the history & anthropology of locks. It was actually titled "Why do you lock your door?"
-emhart
From reddit:
"Very glad you dropped in. Nice to have someone with first hand experience offer this up, thanks."
-schuylertowne
From twitter:
"Here is the US patent filing for that taiwanese lock, so you can see the illustrations: https://t.co/K7F3aY6RTD"
-shoebox
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by abhididdigi on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @09:47AM
(#8595599)
Concept is nice, landing page and the website are nice. What needs more work is the algorithm for determining hate. Almost all the comments that Hater News chewed out of my Reddit username were not at all* trolling. Indeed some statements were even contributing to the discussion.
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by keerthiko on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @09:15AM
(#8595458)
Broken for network = HackerNews. All usernames including the suggested one and my own return the "Hmm That's probably not a real username." etc.
And then some random youtube video plays in the background. And there's a "Still crunching numbers" animation (when I modify the css on the page to hide the overlay).
And then "Something broke, sorry :(" and then back to home.
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by BrianEatWorld on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @10:35AM
(#8595889)
Only Twitter worked for me, but it was kind of cool to read some long forgotten tweets.
I don't really understand the periodic table concept. My first thought was that it grouped your insults into types, like logical fallacies versus outright insults. I feel like that would be more useful for introspection.
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by viggity on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @10:14AM
(#8595761)
a lot of the links to reddit comments are broken, if the title of the page in reddit has a slash in it, the slash is not being ommited/escaped in the URL and so reddit can't find it.
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by pmelendez on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @10:40AM
(#8595941)
Apparently, this is a negative comment:
"What do you with a bunch of books and an empty pod? A racing track of course! http://bit.ly/1wThvTK "
-pmelendezu "
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by pmelendez on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @10:47AM
(#8595987)
He is probably just making a corpus of negative words, where "less" and "only" probably have negative connotations. This is the problem with this kind of analysis, extracting it properly from context is really hard
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by KevinMcAlear on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @09:16AM
(#8595465)
It just means that you don't have insulting comments that it can find. Hover over titles with asterisks to better understand the context of your score and worst comment when you get your score, it just finds the "worst" one out of the bunch and if you don't have a bad comment then it just brings back something like that lol. :)
Re:Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit
by goostavos on Wednesday November 12, 2014 @09:52AM
(#8595630)
One of mine was (truncated) "What an amazing fucking museum! ... Fat man and Little Boy earrings" which was in reference to the Atomic Bomb Museum in Las Vegas.
I guess I hit the key words of calling something "fat," and dropping the f-bomb.
The "troll rate" across all my accounts is 3.X.. which is interesting. Because I'm definitely a little more.. "lively" on some accounts than others (for instance HN compared to Reddit). I would have expected one to be much higher than the other.
"Very useful. Can you add links to amazon/hulu/torrents?"
Sounds like someone tried to build a sarcasm detector.*
*Will this be my new most insulting comment?
"That sounds like a good approach; reimplementing an existing API like EC2 or DO makes it easier to integrate your software with tools like Vagrant and Terraform."
Maybe the words "reimplementing" or "existing" triggered it? For you, maybe it was "torrents"?
And the results for HN are truly head-scratching. Use of the word "fucking" regardless of context is apparently enough to elevate a comment to "worst" status. (Watch me get a few points just for this comment alone!)
Don't get me wrong, this is a neat tool, but it's going to be misused in character assassinations on others, especially with its current presentation, where phrases are used like "troll score", "most insulting" and so on.
I'd really suggest toning that presentation down and emphasizing the fact that this is imperfect until the algorithm has been tweaked further.
"Are you stupid?"
Sounds about right. Edit : Damn now I'm worrying this will become my worst HN comment too.
Double Edit : Just ran it again and now it's my worst comment on HN.
Basically, get them to change the subject of Godwin's Law.
From HN: "I've researched the "why" and a couple years ago had the opportunity to discuss some of the broader ideas in the history & anthropology of locks. It was actually titled "Why do you lock your door?" -emhart
From reddit: "Very glad you dropped in. Nice to have someone with first hand experience offer this up, thanks." -schuylertowne
From twitter: "Here is the US patent filing for that taiwanese lock, so you can see the illustrations: https://t.co/K7F3aY6RTD" -shoebox
"Either your CPU is too fast or too slow. I can't really fix anything since I don't have a Mac to test with. It works fine on Windows."
Me on Reddit: "The first step is to stop hating yourself, you are your foundation for your own success..."
Clear troll comment. I've said much, much, worse on Reddit.
I don't really understand the periodic table concept. My first thought was that it grouped your insults into types, like logical fallacies versus outright insults. I feel like that would be more useful for introspection.
Sample: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6dnve/Top%20Comedi... is broken because it has a slash in the title (9/11)
Killing that slash fixes it: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6dnve/Top%20Comedi...
I'm interested in how it manages to calculate this, because I'm a complete asshole on reddit sometimes.
I guess I'm back in Catholic grade school where "freak" was a strong word.
Pretty much all of my "hater" comments were like this. Many were helpful answers to problem.
"I feel dumb for never thinking of using %2π"
>Spike Lee produced a Bernie Mac, Cedric the Entertainer, and Steve Harvey comedy special?
Was apparently one of my worst.
> You're a shit comment.
On reddit. So that at least seems accurate!
qualifies as hate?
Someone on this bus has lost "Don't Shit Your Pants".
"How many languages you know - that many times you are a human."
I guess I hit the key words of calling something "fat," and dropping the f-bomb.
The "troll rate" across all my accounts is 3.X.. which is interesting. Because I'm definitely a little more.. "lively" on some accounts than others (for instance HN compared to Reddit). I would have expected one to be much higher than the other.
This appears also when using Twitter.
"This looks nice... Are you open to H1B or remote?"