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Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by robterrell on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:15AM (#5509950)
I might have worked on some prior art related to this. In 1993 I worked on a project for a "superfax" system for the NCSU library. It was basically a scanner hooked up to a Mac that would send the resulting tiff files over FTP. It was a great learning experience (well... scsi scanners can blow me, tiff is nuts, the ftp protocol is way over-complicated, but I was doing real internet socket programming in 1993, for money!). It was certainly a one-click scan-and-send solution. Maybe we can get this fucker overturned. (If the email angle isn't essential, which now that I think about it, it probably is.)
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by ScottBurson on Monday April 08, 2013 @02:11AM (#5510216)
That might be close enough prior art to get the patent ruled obvious.

I mean, it ought to have been discarded as obvious in any case, but maybe sticking this in the PTO's face would help. Do you have any evidence?

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by smoyer on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:36AM (#5511298)
I was building distance learning systems in 1997 and 1998 that included the ability to send faxes across a TCP/IP network. There were two devices (already on the market) that allowed you to push the send button on the fax machine, and forward it another similarly configured fax machine.

The intermediate format was to send a TIFF file to an e-mail server ... this sure sounds a lot like the patents being foisted upon small businesses today. Unfortunately I can't remember the name of either device, but I've got a picture of me hiking with my kids in one of these company's t-shirts. More to come!

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by chickopozo on Monday April 08, 2013 @09:10AM (#5511425)
I bought a Canon scanner in 1996. It had a one click email button on it. I hooked my computer to the net so... does this mean I should really hold the patent?
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by chickopozo on Monday April 08, 2013 @09:11AM (#5511428)
I think the software was called canoscan.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by wiml on Monday April 08, 2013 @03:22AM (#5510395)
NeXTmail had some very similar scan/fax/email integration, but it might not have been until a couple of years later than that --- I don't remember.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by juiceandjuice on Monday April 08, 2013 @10:50AM (#5511997)
Prior art for this predates the World Wide Web. The physics arxiv and SPIRES database were doing this in the 80s.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by vxNsr on Monday April 08, 2013 @03:36AM (#5510424)
Yes, contact the author so he can put you in touch with the proper lawyers
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by walshemj on Monday April 08, 2013 @07:05AM (#5510997)
I seem to recall that telecom gold (dialcom in the us) had an experimental email/fax gateway back in the 80's.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by blackhole on Sunday April 07, 2013 @10:43PM (#5509723)
"I'd appreciate you not running a photo of me, anywhere," said Rust. "You know how photographs work, with copyright and all. If there's a photograph up online of me, I own it."

I guess lawyers don't read the terms and conditions when they use websites, either.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by anigbrowl on Sunday April 07, 2013 @10:57PM (#5509760)
He's not a very good lawyer. The photographer owns the copyright interest in any photos they take. the subject may have an interest based on their 'right of publicity,' but that's something quite different.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by m0nastic on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:15AM (#5509947)
In our copyright class in school, we were taught that photographers do give up copyright in the specific case of work-for-hire (with all the criteria for determining work-for-hire that entails; a la CCNV vs Reid).

I've certainly had to get "work-for-hire" verbiage stricken from client contracts, but I'd love to be wrong about that.

As far as I'm aware though, except for that, copyright is granted to the "artist" who created the work[1].

[1] With one famous exception: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110713/11244515079/can-we...

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by reader5000 on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:50AM (#5510022)
But what patent troll cowboy was trying to assert is that if he is depicted in a photo then under copyright law he "owns" the photo. Although as the person you were replying to pointed out there is some basis for this notion under common law right to publicity, this is distinct from federal statutory copyright law (and in any case would not apply in the context of a news article).

Since his assertion has no basis in copyright law either: (a) he has an honest confusion regarding how that area of the law works or (b) he was relying on the reporter's assumed ignorance of the law to engage in some good old fashioned baseless legal intimidation in order to get his way. But that's not something a patent troll would do.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by caf on Monday April 08, 2013 @01:38AM (#5510135)
Another reading of what he was saying is that he believes that there are no photos of him which he doesn't own that are online.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by noonespecial on Sunday April 07, 2013 @11:13PM (#5509810)
If I were in his business I don't think I'd want my picture out there either. You can probably steal from people like this and 99.99% of those people do the "smart" thing and just get on with their lives. But if you send enough extortion letters, eventually you'll roll over a nutcase like a landmine and life will get "interesting" after that.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by prawn on Monday April 08, 2013 @06:19AM (#5510887)
Who'd dare mess with a guy who poses in a hat like that?
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by pixl97 on Sunday April 07, 2013 @11:10PM (#5509802)
He knows that he's such an asshole, he doesn't want his image out there in case of reprisal.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by hkmurakami on Sunday April 07, 2013 @11:49PM (#5509895)
He does seem to have a nice smile, and probably has a firm handshake.

ugh.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by nwh on Sunday April 07, 2013 @10:55PM (#5509750)
If it wasn't clear; that statement is blatantly false.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by cperciva on Sunday April 07, 2013 @10:59PM (#5509766)
I don't know who first made this observation, but the best way to get a dumb law changed is to enforce it strictly. I can't help thinking that this is a good thing...
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by nh on Sunday April 07, 2013 @11:16PM (#5509816)
"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly." - Abraham Lincoln
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by mav3r1ck on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:57AM (#5510037)
I really don't think Lincoln said that (assuming he did, Lincoln certainly didn't try to apply that to the question of slavery, so under what context did he say it?). My sense of history smell is calling shenanigans and a quick search shows it's one of those things that was probably made up as I couldn't easily find an actual source.

Sorry to be slightly off-topic here, but it grinds my gears when using a made up quote by someone famous who didn't say actually it (and never likely did historically) doesn't add any real value to a conversation.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by easytiger on Monday April 08, 2013 @04:03AM (#5510490)
"Its a popular quip on reddit to give a knowingly wrong quote and attribute it to someone famous, particularly dead presidents."

-JFK

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by cperciva on Monday April 08, 2013 @01:27AM (#5510111)
Indeed, that's why I was uncertain -- I've definitely seen it attributed to Lincoln, but that alone is not enough to convince me that he was actually the originator of the observation.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by ralph on Monday April 08, 2013 @01:24PM (#5513070)
I know no method to secure the repeal of bad or obnoxious laws so effective as their stringent execution. — http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by nhebb on Monday April 08, 2013 @03:56AM (#5510476)
Could an enterprising lawyer file a class action suit against the printer manufacturers on behalf of the letter recipients? They have mass marketed items that violate patents to unwitting consumers.

I don't think this is any less unethical that what the patent trolls are doing, but at least it may force the issue to come to a head.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by krichman on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:31AM (#5509987)
And he was formerly involved in a Ponzi scheme. Why is it so hard for these people to make an honest living?
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by prawn on Monday April 08, 2013 @06:22AM (#5510893)
Did you read the bit about how he escaped any penalty previously? Nothing's taught him otherwise.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by IheartApplesDix on Monday April 08, 2013 @01:27AM (#5510112)
its a two way street. these companies would do the vary same thing the second it becomes profitable.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by redact207 on Sunday April 07, 2013 @11:21PM (#5509830)
US patent law applies to any company that runs in the US - or to any company that operates in the country where the patent was filed.

Does anyone know how this applies to online companies that are registered and operated outside of the US, but still make a portion of sales from US customers?

I'd assume many startups are susceptible to infringing on patented ideas that were never implemented; and leave them vulnerable to this sort of stupidity.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by waterlesscloud on Sunday April 07, 2013 @10:50PM (#5509736)
Excellent. Harassing hundreds of small-to-medium business people (likely friends and contributors of lawmakers) is an excellent plan. I'm in favor of it.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by someperson on Sunday April 07, 2013 @10:57PM (#5509761)
So the anonymous owners of these companies are actually disgustingly taking advantage of the US patent system not to make a profit but simply express its brokenness and to encourage reform?

That's a good conspiracy theory :)

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by kaoD on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:07AM (#5509935)
Actually, the way he repeated "you should contact an IP attorney, he'll explain you how it all works" throughout the whole interview made me think that.

Or maybe it's the way he justifies (rationalizes?) his actions to himself.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by disillusioned on Monday April 08, 2013 @01:46AM (#5510154)
No, it's a way of him acting disarming and helpful by falling back on an option that the person can pursue to "validate" the issue at hand. It's definitely not some scheme to trojan horse takedown patent trolls... like himself.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by setrofim_ on Monday April 08, 2013 @03:01AM (#5510335)
It's a form of intimidation. Like when someone is blackmailing you and says "...or if you're uncomfortable with this then, you know, we can always talk to police about it".
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by brazzy on Monday April 08, 2013 @07:15AM (#5511030)
According to the article, he says that because he believes most people will pay up after taking to an attorney.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by jdotjdot on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:17AM (#5509958)
I sort of really hope this is actually the case. As long as no one actually ends up paying them any money.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by Yaggo on Monday April 08, 2013 @04:25AM (#5510552)
The hidden costs for the whole US society/economy must be huge due to broken laws. (Stalled innovation, reduced efficiency, etc.)
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by psionski on Monday April 08, 2013 @06:46AM (#5510956)
There are some really smart people in the USA, but sadly this doesn't apply to their leaders. The only thing they're good at is running massive propaganda campaigns (to the point where some people think they're proud to work two jobs and barely have something to eat).
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by brazzy on Monday April 08, 2013 @07:19AM (#5511041)
The funny thing is that most people who actually meet their political representative in person will tell you that this really is an honest, hard-working guy with the best interests of everyone in mind, totally different from all those crooked idiot politicians...
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by psionski on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:47AM (#5511344)
You don't get to be a politician without some charisma and the ability to tell believable lies. I'm not saying these aren't useful skills, but putting too much power in such people is generally a bad idea.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by brazzy on Monday April 08, 2013 @10:16AM (#5511775)
Actually my interpretation is that actual good intentions and hard work are indistinguishable from corruption and incompetence when seen in aggregation from afar in an environment of conflicting interests.

That, and reporting bias.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by psionski on Monday April 08, 2013 @11:31AM (#5512300)
Nope. Actual hard work and good intentions remain visible at any level - the Nordic countries are famous for their sane politics, even though we're looking at them from a distance. Facts are just facts and the distance only helps.

Reporting bias can be effectively eliminated by collecting your data from multiple sources, i.e. visiting different web pages. Of course, you could then introduce your own bias by choosing which sites to visit, but you can at least try to be consciously aware of this and avoid it as much as possible.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by brazzy on Monday April 08, 2013 @11:49AM (#5512431)
> Reporting bias can be effectively eliminated by collecting your data from multiple sources, i.e. visiting different web pages.

Not when there is a systematic "newsworthiness bias" that all of the suffer from. People just doing their job never gets reported. People doing their job exceptionally well gets rarerly reported, but horror stories of incompetence and corruption are certain to make the headlines.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by crazytony on Monday April 08, 2013 @01:54AM (#5510172)
The patent quoted in the article has to do with software api compatibility.

Other than a repeated reference to an OCR wrapper, I don't see how this has to do with email, printing or using a single button to send. In fact, it seems like Mr. Klien is asserting that he has discovered middleware. In 1998.

Is there some other non-referenced case law that narrows the scope of this patent to the above printer scenario?

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by asmithmd1 on Monday April 08, 2013 @06:23AM (#5510901)
At least people outside of tech are starting to notice there is a problem with patent law. Check out the "Tabarrok curve":

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2012/09/pat...

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by tterrace on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:41AM (#5511319)
It would be interesting to see if these groups of small companies could band together and share resources to fight something like this. On their own, a small company has no shot but everyone that received the letter together might.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by arbuge on Monday April 08, 2013 @09:37AM (#5511556)
Anything but nice guys. With a fake smile, their message to small companies is to pay up or they'll break your knuckles... these people are about as socially useful as a bunch of rats making a living from raiding food stores.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by robryan on Monday April 08, 2013 @05:05AM (#5510687)
I think they know that there is a very good chance this will be invalidated if it found its way to a case.

Unless I was running a massive company I would ignore this. It would be nowhere near lucrative enough for them to risk the case.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by dctoedt on Monday April 08, 2013 @06:40PM (#5515157)
I used to know Bryan Farney quite well; we were partners in the same IP litigation firm. (I haven't been in touch with him in probably 15 years.)

Do not underestimate Bryan. He's a brilliant and highly competent lawyer, a seasoned litigator, and a very focused individual. He knows the tech industry from the inside; in one incarnation, he was general counsel at Micron Technology. IIRC correctly, after that he was a partner in Brobeck's Austin office before that firm imploded. Personally Bryan is indeed a nice guy, but by no stretch of the imagination is he a pushover.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by kaoD on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:11AM (#5509942)
And why are the users and not the printer companies being sued for this?
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by btilly on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:24AM (#5509970)
That is the heart of patent trolling.

With a weak patent you do not want a single victim with deep enough pockets to fight it. You want a large number who will pay you something to go away and stop ruining their lives.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by njharman on Monday April 08, 2013 @04:33AM (#5510577)
If you actually read the article simple questions like this will be answered.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by dangrossman on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:22AM (#5509967)
Nobody's being sued. They want settlements, not litigation. The printer companies would refuse to pay the settlement offers, so the lawyers get nothing. The 10-employee companies can't afford litigation, so there's a chance they'll pay off the troll to avoid it.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by kaoD on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:38AM (#5510001)
So it's basically extortion?

"It'd be a shame if something happened to your little business..."

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by smsm42 on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:47AM (#5510018)
Yes it is. And unfortunately the laws allow it.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by spc476 on Monday April 08, 2013 @03:03AM (#5510342)
If I were running a business that got one of these "settlement" letters, I say, "sue me." Then I'd turn right around and sue the printer company for failing to indemnify me for using their products and basically, force them into the fight.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by njharman on Monday April 08, 2013 @04:36AM (#5510587)
Well gather up all your money + several hundred thousand more and burn it. All cause you didn't read the EULA of your scanner, the patents in question, or have a clue about US law.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by reader5000 on Monday April 08, 2013 @09:15AM (#5511449)
Suing for indemnification is what I would do after filing ethics complaints against Jay Mac Rust and Brian Farney.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by etherealG on Monday April 08, 2013 @03:32AM (#5510413)
exactly, class action suit from everyone that got a letter too. make it match the thousands that are being trolled.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by jsmeaton on Monday April 08, 2013 @01:04AM (#5510056)
I want to know the same thing. Doesn't the printer manufacturer license these patents so each user does not have to themselves? I just can't understand how this bs is allowed.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by roel_v on Monday April 08, 2013 @04:54AM (#5510653)
It's in the article.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by jsmeaton on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:32PM (#5515703)
I couldn't find that addressed in the article, could you be a little more specific about where?
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by roel_v on Tuesday April 09, 2013 @04:40AM (#5517019)
About halfway on the 2nd page:

"Second: Farney said that his client is going after scanner users, not to avoid doing battle with big scanner makers like HP and Canon but because there’s no other use for the patents. Because of the way the patents are written, MPHJ actually can’t go after scanner manufacturers. Only the whole “system”—putting the scanner together with a network—infringes.

“The devices can be used in plenty of non-infringing ways," Farney explained. "Several of the major manufacturers have talked to us about these patents, and they agree with us. The product they sell is not infringing. It’s putting the whole system together. If you have an office scanner that scans with one button, is hooked up to a network, and can send e-mail—you infringe.""

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by roel_v on Monday April 08, 2013 @04:54AM (#5510650)
The article goes into that. The idea is that it infringes only at the moment the device is hooked up to a network.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by prawn on Monday April 08, 2013 @06:24AM (#5510905)
How is that really inventing anything? They're either following instructions to use a product, or doing something completely obvious.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the intent of patents, but I would've thought they protected the interests of the inventor against competition by other inventors rather than users of an invented product?

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by roel_v on Monday April 08, 2013 @06:41AM (#5510945)
I don't know the specifics of this man's legal claims, but the article makes his stance pretty clear: the combination of scanning, emailing, LAN and one-button operation is the thing that is patented. The point is not that the user is inventing something, it's that somebody else has invented this combination, and the user must now (again, according to this man) pay a license fee to use this specific invention.

"or doing something completely obvious."

This is also discussed in the article. Many things that many people (especially engineers) would consider 'obvious' or 'simple' really aren't under patent law (again, this mans claims), and in some cases, things that are 'obvious' now weren't when the invention was done. Which, to some degree, is true.

"Maybe I'm misunderstanding the intent of patents, but I would've thought they protected the interests of the inventor against competition by other inventors rather than users of an invented product?"

No, the point is to protect inventors by giving them a way to control under what circumstances (i.e., in most cases, after how much money has been paid) their invention can be used. Patents aren't about preventing other from inventing the same thing again, it's about having a monopoly on using/commercializing the invention.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by dogweather on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:25AM (#5511252)
Inventing ... Is not the issue. There are several ways to infringe a patent, and one of them is "practicing" it. This is likely the legal theory for finding infringement here.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by jawns on Monday April 08, 2013 @11:42AM (#5512379)
If a company pays the licensing fee to get the patent troll off its back, and the patent is later invalidated ... does the company have any way of recovering the licensing fee it has paid?
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by r0s on Sunday April 07, 2013 @11:52PM (#5509903)
Maybe patents should have restrictions on transferal? This kind of problem would be less frequent if the original inventor had a period where the patent was non-transferable.

What might happen? Would this decrease patent hoarding and trolling? Would options to buy make waiting periods ineffective?

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by esrauch on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:01AM (#5509921)
Likely that would just mean that the troll company would pay the same upfront sum to the owner for the right to "represent" them and sue other companies and keep any revenues.

Also, consider when StartupX is bought by BigCo., and BigCo wants to simply keep the company running exactly as it was. Clearly someone else is controlling the patents than the original owner of the company.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by r0s on Monday April 08, 2013 @01:23PM (#5513059)
Patent trolling is probably unavoidable, but I'd say much less likely when it's initiated by individuals. Legitimate claims must be accessible, and the courts need to be the test.

Your second point cuts to the heart of the issue, should patents be treated as traditional assets? One possibility: Once you sell your patent, it loses legal protection and becomes merely a trade secret.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by kghose on Sunday April 07, 2013 @11:37PM (#5509873)
How can you patent an action? Could some one please clarify what it is that was patented? The sequence of pressing a set of particular buttons? Really?
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by pravda on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:27AM (#5509976)
Isn't it fairly trivial to get around this patent? Instead of 'one-click' to scan a document and email it, just scan the document to a file and then attach the file to an email.

Training employees to do this would cost less then $1000/employer that the patent holder is asking.

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by ScottBurson on Monday April 08, 2013 @02:15AM (#5510227)
It certainly sounded that way from his careful description on the phone call:

"If you said you hooked it up to the Internet, and in one button, you can scan and e-mail directly out—yes, you have violated the patent that we own."

Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by njharman on Monday April 08, 2013 @04:39AM (#5510603)
I don't believe you actually have to use a thing for the thing to be in violation of patent. Just having created the thing (connecting network to scanner with 1 click scan to email) is in violation of patent.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by joelwilliamson on Monday April 08, 2013 @01:22AM (#5510102)
What I'm interested in is how they determine someone is one-click scanning to email. Do they just bulk mail to businesses and hope their targets use this system?
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by holograham on Sunday April 07, 2013 @11:41PM (#5509884)
not patenting an action but a system. In this case, as the article specifies, the combination of a scanner, LAN, and application software that allows a user to one button send a scanned image to email. Yes these are patentable under current law.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by dogweather on Monday April 08, 2013 @08:26AM (#5511259)
Certain "processes" can be patented.
Re:Meet the nice-guy lawyers who want $1,000 per worker for ... by reader5000 on Monday April 08, 2013 @12:17AM (#5509957)
Did NOT expect patent troll cowboy.

But seriously, these people should be disbarred.