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Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by andyfilms1 on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:05PM (#50489629)
It's also crazy that as far as technology has advanced, the concept of the username/password is still so prevalent. Passkeys are sort of changing things, it all still feels decidedly low-tech.
Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by surgical_fire on Friday November 13, 2026 @04:31PM (#50490084)
What is really crazy is that things that should be just an application locally installed on the device (such as PowerPoint) need a login at all.

There's a secondary issue of schools pushing children to use proprietary applications when perfectly serviceable alternatives exist (especially for school level work).

How the hell we all normalized this crap is maddening.

Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by paradox460 on Saturday November 14, 2026 @03:39AM (#50495238)
It's not even new. 20 years ago I got a bad grade in highschool because I used StarOffice and not Office 2003 for a project

My father and I had an unreasonably long conversation with the dean of students about how requiring someone to purchase a $300 software suite for a basic highschool English class was egregious

Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by port11 on Saturday November 14, 2026 @07:27AM (#50496490)
The school in the linked post actually requires 3 separate logins before you can see the presentation, that’s just…
Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by WorldMaker on Saturday November 14, 2026 @09:57AM (#50497537)
One of the "best" parts being the first one of those was meant to be an "SSO" but apparently is design-by-committee and very bad at it. (Requiring too frequent logins, not saving usernames between logins [for kids?!], requiring login dances at downstream logins.)
Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by hulitu on Sunday November 15, 2026 @06:21AM (#50506068)
> that’s just…

I think they call it UX.

Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by dprkh on Friday November 13, 2026 @05:52PM (#50491270)
Username/password is the easiest way to log in, assuming there is no stupid format requirements. It's just two strings stored in your password manager. The most retarded way to implement log in is actually magic email link, which requires opening your email client, waiting for the email to arrive, and copying the code. If you want to make it even worse, you can require that to be done using the same browser that is trying to log into the account.
Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by nozzlegear on Friday November 13, 2026 @11:18PM (#50493877)
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Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by antonvs on Saturday November 14, 2026 @03:09AM (#50495084)
Is it a slur if it's describing a process, rather than a person?
Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by defrost on Saturday November 14, 2026 @03:12AM (#50495098)
Yes.
Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by antonvs on Saturday November 14, 2026 @11:59AM (#50498552)
There are still plenty of technical and scientific uses of the word in various forms, including retard, retarded, retardant, and retardation. One that’s in common use outside the sciences is “flame retardant”.

Technical usage, where the word is describing a quantity, process, or function include: retarded time, retarded position, retardation time, regarded coordinates, retarded Green’s function, retarded potential, retarded acceleration, and retarded ignition.

In all these cases, it’s used to refer to something whose progress is delayed or impeded in some way, which is the original meaning of the word “retard”, that also ended up being used in medicine and psychology and becoming a slur in those contexts.

So the correct answer to my original question is either “no” or “it depends”, with the latter requiring some qualifying criteria.

Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by nozzlegear on Saturday November 14, 2026 @12:59PM (#50499196)
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Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by defrost on Saturday November 14, 2026 @06:57PM (#50502369)
The correct answer is that the manner in which you used the word in the context above was as a slur. As you're no doubt well aware.

Full stop.

Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by throwaway27448 on Friday November 13, 2026 @09:11PM (#50492914)
> the concept of the username/password is still so prevalent

How can you improve on it? You have the identity part and the auth part. What is better than that?

Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by MisterMunchkin on Saturday November 14, 2026 @03:59AM (#50495330)
Passkeys. That has both and it can’t be set insecurely, written on paper or given to an Indian call centre who assures you they are from the finance department.
Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by throwaway27448 on Saturday November 14, 2026 @05:06AM (#50495671)
How do you identify whose passkey it is without an identity? They're a decent defensive auth method for people who can't use a password manager but they can't replace username/password.
Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by WorldMaker on Saturday November 14, 2026 @10:00AM (#50497553)
username/passkey works just fine. No password needed. Nobody said drop usernames, the idea is drop passwords.
Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by hulitu on Sunday November 15, 2026 @06:32AM (#50506128)
> the idea is drop passwords

and replace them with passwords (passkeys). Very clever.

Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by crote on Saturday November 14, 2026 @10:56AM (#50498034)
Passkeys as they are currently-marketed are resident credentials. This means a passkey stored on your Yubikey (or smartphone, or Windows account, or...) is not only a private key, but also contains a UID to identify it. A website doing authentication can trivially use this to look up which user it is associated with. Very convenient for single-press login, but it requires a decent bunch of per-website storage on the hardware token. Which is of course a net positive for the big tech companies, because it forced you into using smartphones as the token, and doing silly things like cloud sync with them.

The original FIDO U2F credentials were not resident. You'd enter your username, and the website would sent over a bunch of opaque blobs representing the associated hardware tokens. The hardware token would decrypt their blob using a key derived from a combination of the website's domain name and the hardware token's single stored secret, and then do the whole auth shenanigans using the data retrieved from the blob.

Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by crote on Saturday November 14, 2026 @10:48AM (#50497951)
Making it phishing-resistant, for starters. And having a built-in way to prevent people from reusing their password across multiple websites, so that any single compromise doesn't instantly turns into having all of their accounts pwned.
Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by hulitu on Sunday November 15, 2026 @06:30AM (#50506118)
> And having a built-in way to prevent people from reusing their password across multiple websites

"Sign in with Google/Facebook/etc" - epic fail. /s

Re:It Takes 16 Clicks for a Student to Open a PowerPoint on ... by hulitu on Sunday November 15, 2026 @06:19AM (#50506056)
> Passkeys are sort of changing things,

Yeah, like changing poo with diarrhoea.