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Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by oooyay on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:15PM (#50417965)
I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected. If you can establish the latter, then his personal conduct is between him and his partner.

What I am extra curious about is why is Alice Huang not being rigorously investigated prior to or alongside all of this? If these allegations are true then what she did amounts to treason and a variety of other things. Failing to register as a foreign agent is another. She, at the very least, should be held by the US the same way we hold other foreign nationals charged with treason.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by rustystump on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:24PM (#50418067)
I, as a shareholder, do care. It isnt about moralism. Sony america lost their ceo because he was banging some 20yo as a perk to sign a contract with another media company and she got mad about it when her side didnt pan out (no acting roles).

It is bad for business. Thats all. Him doing this is bad for Nvidia and bad for shareholders.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by cainxinth on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:33PM (#50418155)
If nothing else, it's a distraction. And it tarnishes the street's golden image of NVIDIA.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by ryandrake on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:58PM (#50418448)
What is wrong with these VIPs? I always thought when you become a big, important CEO or politician, they gave you The Book and the first chapter says "Just bang your hot Chinese mistress. Don't tell her any secrets." Jeez, how dumb are these guys?
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by nemomarx on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:17PM (#50418681)
Have you tried having sex with someone for an extended time and not catching some emotions? It's tough.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by NetMageSCW on Monday November 09, 2026 @03:40PM (#50431742)
What do emotions have to do with secrets?
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by NetMageSCW on Monday November 09, 2026 @03:40PM (#50431751)
Do we know any secrets were told?
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by oooyay on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:12PM (#50419231)
That is a quid pro quo, that is not the same as simply having an affair with another powerful executive.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by zirkonit on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:25PM (#50418074)
I'm sorry, but how can a Chinese national living in Singapore be charged for treason in US? Doesn't the concept of treason presume some kind of loyalty to the state in question, usually through citizenship?
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by dofm on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:33PM (#50418149)
Right. Nothing much that can be done here, though she might not want to visit relatives on holiday.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by coro_1 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:40PM (#50418235)
Yup treason is the correct term if Alice Huang were a US Citizen. But they're not.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by rayiner on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:37PM (#50418203)
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Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by khriss on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:49PM (#50418333)
Cheating employees is practically entry level stakes for being a CEO. Not only is it tolerated, it's celebrated(at least in the United States).

Cheating shareholders, esp large ones is a big no no since there are real consequences for CEOs engaging in such behaviour.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by fc417fc802 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:56PM (#50418421)
I certainly don't condone it but nonetheless the underlying motivations as well as the potential consequences of those behaviors seem almost entirely unrelated to me.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by rayiner on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:21PM (#50419320)
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Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by machomaster on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:44PM (#50419497)
It's myopic of you to assume that every marriage is the same and that having mistress would constitute a breach of confidential trust.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by rayiner on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:51PM (#50419554)
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Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by machomaster on Monday November 09, 2026 @09:49AM (#50426423)
"Cheating" is not cheating e.g. if it is a known arrangement. Marriages, cultures and people are different.

Using steroids in a professional bodybuilding is not cheating.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by rayiner on Monday November 09, 2026 @10:01AM (#50426596)
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Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by fc417fc802 on Monday November 09, 2026 @01:32PM (#50429535)
That's overly general as by that logic nearly every action anyone takes is equivalent. Reliably show up for work? Self serving pursuit of a paycheck. Grocery shopping? Feeding oneself is also self serving.

Someone selling secrets (for example) I would generally assume to be motivated by pure greed coupled with a fairly blatant disregard for both criminal and financial risk.

In contrast, I understand affairs to commonly be motivated by any number of things ranging from lust, various relationship problems, the thrill of something taboo, etc. The risk is also typically more social than financial and certainly not criminal in nature (at least in the west).

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by rayiner on Monday November 09, 2026 @01:53PM (#50429851)
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Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by NetMageSCW on Monday November 09, 2026 @03:42PM (#50431779)
So how many of your Internet purchases do you report on your Sales and Use tax form with your income tax?
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by jimz on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:03PM (#50418504)
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Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by ndriscoll on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:31PM (#50418863)
Well he wrote that he was deeply sorry to his family, so presumably his relationship is not as libertine as yours.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by rayiner on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:43PM (#50418965)
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Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by ricksunny on Monday November 09, 2026 @06:57AM (#50424386)
Please never visit East Africa.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by dofm on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:39PM (#50418226)
> I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected.

This is actually a pretty challenging standard, because the moment the CEO tries to gaslight their spouse/partner that it's not an affair, they are already bringing the company into a deception.

This might seem a silly place to draw the line, but consider what the escalations are — the CEO's PA being asked to mislead the spouse, inventing a meeting he was at, inventing an away trip, etc. etc.; they always mount up. There is no executive who has an affair who doesn't pretend they are at work, and there's no pretence that doesn't ultimately put an employee in a difficult position.

It's entirely reasonable for a board to say that if the CEO or the chairman is having an affair it is their business.

And this is before you even consider that the affair is likely to be an employee.

Now, if a CEO at Huang's level of geopolitical importance is having an affair, it's the government's business, because it makes him a blackmail and espionage target.

So yeah, it matters.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by root_axis on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:40PM (#50418229)
> I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected

There are 100 different ways that the CEO falling victim to an espionage plot could impact the business.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by enraged_camel on Sunday November 08, 2026 @05:50PM (#50418347)
Yes. For one, it makes them vulnerable to blackmail, so their decisions can no longer be trusted.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by rescbr on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:29PM (#50419380)
But the cat is out of the bag, so the blackmail won't work anymore.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by oooyay on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:11PM (#50419218)
Please use the whole quote:

> I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected. If you can establish the latter, then his personal conduct is between him and his partner.

If you read the second sentence then you and I agree. I care if the business is affected, I don't if it is not and then the rest of this is a personal matter that doesn't need to be a news story because it is gossip.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by chrishare on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:40PM (#50419457)
Perhaps there should be an investigation? Perhaps the existing awareness of this relationship of his is cause for the board announcing publicly this investigation?
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by oooyay on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:03PM (#50420507)
Sure? I didn't disagree with doing an investigation. I simply stated what I was curious to understand and what I cared about. It seems like a lot of people replying particularly care about the fact that he cheated on his wife.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by root_axis on Sunday November 08, 2026 @11:13PM (#50420995)
> It seems like a lot of people replying particularly care about the fact that he cheated on his wife

People care because the cheating puts him in a potentially compromising situation, especially in the context of corporate espionage. It's not that complicated.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by oooyay on Sunday November 08, 2026 @11:23PM (#50421052)
I think if you actually read this thread and others you'd find a laundry list of invented reasons people think it's significant. So, I think it is somewhat complicated, and I think it very much is up for debate.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by coro_1 on Sunday November 08, 2026 @08:42PM (#50419918)
> > I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected. If you can establish the latter, then his personal conduct is between him and his partner.

I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected

The CEO had an extramarital affair with a major client/customer's executive staff. The business is affected, until it's not.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by shitloadofbooks on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:05PM (#50418542)
You in a few years time: "I can't believe this person who lied and cheated, lied and cheated to ME."
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by oooyay on Sunday November 08, 2026 @07:08PM (#50419194)
I think you'll be rather disappointed. This is a view I've held since college that's stayed with me to this day. The same logic I see on display in this thread is what I heard when Republicans were going after Bill Clinton. The fact that he lied was the cherry on top, they were very eager to charge him with some kind of moral crime. The fact that the moral crime existed was a giant distraction to the actual risks, and the risks largely didn't exist if the moral crime did not exist.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by dualvariable on Sunday November 08, 2026 @06:29PM (#50418838)
> I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected.

This is really naive. And I bet other people could do other questionable things that you'd consider to color their entire character and render them untrustworthy.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by ElProlactin on Sunday November 08, 2026 @09:59PM (#50420481)
> ...so long as the business is not affected.

This isn't some hypothetical situation. The woman Huang admitted having an affair with was an executive at a data center company that bought billions of dollars of Nvidia chips and is suspected of having smuggled them to China.

She was allegedly recruited by China's Ministry of State Security to not only gather intelligence from Huang but to try to influence him to lobby for relaxed chip exports to China. We don't know how "influential" she was but pushing for less stringent export controls on Nvidia's chips is exactly what Huang has been doing.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by oooyay on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:06PM (#50420524)
Do you think that's at competition with what I said? I don't think so. I simply stated that his affair either has the power to be demonstrably important here or not at all. I am responding to threads and threads full of people that seem to mostly care about the fact that he had an affair.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by ElProlactin on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:24PM (#50420663)
You stated "...so long as the business is not affected."

Let's be clear, again: Huang has admitted an affair with a woman who was an executive at a company that bought billions of dollars of Nvidia chips that may have been smuggled to China, and it turns out she was allegedly a Chinese spy. Her apparent mission: gather intelligence and influence Huang, who has a close relationship with the US president, to lobby for relaxed chip exports to China. Which is what he has been doing.

Huang admitted the affair in an email to company employees, and the Nvidia board of directors has launched an investigation.

By any reasonable definition, the business is clearly affected.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by oooyay on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:44PM (#50420814)
Yeah, I don't believe we've established that beyond the fact that the US is kind of moralist and it's important to onlookers. We don't really know whether it's materially affected the business.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by somenameforme on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:23PM (#50420658)
Less stringent export controls are also what he would and should have been arguing for both as a business executive and, paradoxically, probably even even if he was lobbying for US interests. US leadership keeps making the same dumb mistake. When you restrict access to some advanced technology to another technologically advanced country, it's not like the other country just cries and beg you to give it back. Nothing is so advanced that it can't be replicated.

So you going from the other country being fully dependent upon you (putting you at an economic/geopolitical edge) to urgently incentivizing them to make their own advances in the restricted industry, which may eventually surpass your own achievements. For instance the Wolf Amendment [1] is the reason China was never allowed on the 'international' ISS. [1] The idea is that they'd just steal all of our tech or something. So it simply led to the Chinese creating their own space station while the ISS continues to deteriorate with no replacement in sight.

Same thing with chips. Come back to this post in ~15 years.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_Amendment

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by ElProlactin on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:33PM (#50420724)
> Less stringent export controls are also what he would and should have been arguing for both as a business executive and, paradoxically, probably even even if he was lobbying for US interests.

You're missing the point, which is that once you've been compromised by a foreign intelligence service, it doesn't matter whether or not what you were lobbying for was logical or "right". What matters is that your relevant actions have been tainted and motivations can no longer be fully trusted, so you lose your credibility.

Nvidia's board is probably going to try to do what it can to look like it's taking this matter seriously without terminating Huang, but that's because there's no succession plan at Nvidia.

Huang's political clout is gone, and he may never get it back.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by somenameforme on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:52PM (#50420873)
I'm not missing that at all and I fully agree with you. I'm just saying his actions don't condemn him in any way which would also mean it was likely a bad play by China. Ostensibly it's understandable wanting to get an inside with him, but if his natural path forward aligns with your interest then there's not much to be gained, and a potentially significant amount to lose, because now it will predictably result in knee-jerk reactions.
Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by ElProlactin on Sunday November 08, 2026 @11:24PM (#50421061)
> I'm just saying his actions don't condemn him in any way...

He has lost all credibility. He might remain as CEO of Nvidia, especially because the company doesn't have a succession plan, but this is going to be the end of his political cloud for a good long time, perhaps forever.

> ...which would also mean it was likely a bad play by China.

I don't really think this is the case. China will continue to smuggle chips and work on its own technology regardless.

The bottom line is China's MSS successfully compromised one of the world's most powerful executives and the price that will be paid is mostly on the US side. Given that this was disclosed to Trump a while back and he sat on it, don't be surprised if this becomes another big problem for Trump, who is in a horribly vulnerable spot right now after the midterms.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by somenameforme on Sunday November 08, 2026 @11:59PM (#50421241)
Let me rephrase that - his business actions don't condemn him. Obviously his indiscretions have ruined him, and that was certainly his own actions.

I don't agree this will harm the US in any way, shape, or fashion. It'll be used to justify even more stringent efforts at tech control and greater surveillance efforts of key technological players. All of this fits into US desires to a t. And while none of this will directly harm China, and may even paradoxically benefit them (for reasons mentioned previously), I can't imagine this is something they would directly aim for relative to a more favorable prior status quo.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by ElProlactin on Monday November 09, 2026 @03:00AM (#50422499)
> Obviously his indiscretions have ruined him, and those were certainly his actions, so you're right - but I'd classify those as his personal actions.

Putting aside how strategically important Nvidia is as a company, and the access and influence Huang has on policymakers including the president of the US, he had an affair with an executive at a customer that has purchased billions of dollars of Nvidia chips and may have been smuggling them to China.

The minute you mix your infidelity with the business you run, it's no longer "personal".

> I don't agree this will harm the US in any way, shape, or fashion. It'll be used to justify even more stringent efforts at tech control and greater surveillance efforts of key technological players.

No country is a monolith. The US isn't. China isn't. This is a real mess for the Trump administration and his allies/sycophants, ammunition for Democrats, a potential boon for China hawks, a setback for China doves, etc.

As for "even more stringent efforts at tech control and greater surveillance efforts of key technological players", I don't think this is a simple subject but let's be honest: the oversize influence and power of tech companies today is probably something that does need oversight and regulation. Nothing about the billionaires running these companies suggests they are interested in what's best for average working-class Americans.

> ...I can't imagine this is something they would directly aim for relative to a more favorable prior status quo.

As I stated, China will continue to smuggle Nvidia chips and work on its own technology. This won't affect that. This woman is not the only honeypot in corporate America (or Washington DC) and the Chinese espionage apparatus is very well established and won't be dismantled by this one discovery.

As for the status quo, what status quo are you referring to? The one where China was under peak effective bilateral tariffs of ~150%?

China is biding its time and preparing for conflict, which it knows could very well be kinetic. It has been working very hard to sanctions-proof its supply chain and, more importantly, financial system. It is expanding its nuclear arsenal at the fastest rate globally. And so on.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by somenameforme on Monday November 09, 2026 @08:33AM (#50425379)
I don't see how this in any way whatsoever effects Trump, or see how this has any of the grand effects you're implying. The DNC already can't stop banging Chinese spies - like you had that Federal Congressional Rep, married with children, banging a Chinese spy while on the House Intelligence Committee that oversees the entire US intelligence apparatus. Absolutely nothing happened. He's still in Congress. He didn't even get booted from the Intelligence Committee until his seat expired. It's hilarious really. And on top of that it seems like half the tech elite in the US have Chinese wives.

The status quo I'm referring to is the one China continues to rapidly outpace the US by most of every imaginable metric and the US' growth is not only stuttering but continues to face growing internal (and external) issues. China has absolutely zero reason to rock the boat and has historically always played the long game.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by Merrill on Sunday November 08, 2026 @10:49PM (#50420843)
And, as politician Jesse Unruh famously said -

"If you can't eat their food, drink their booze, screw their women, take their money and then vote against them in the morning, you've got no business being up here."

Jesse M. Unruh, a powerful former Speaker of the California State Assembly.

CEOs should be at least as resistant to influence as politicians.

Re:Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang by klrefg on Monday November 09, 2026 @02:47PM (#50430858)
China is not at war with the US so legally she certainly couldn’t be prosecuted for treason.