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Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by harry8 on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:00PM (#50345299)
Question:

Every consumer router-wirelessAP I've seen runs linux.

I never see security upgrades for the kernels they use. Not one. Not ever.

Is this something that should be a cause for concern? Even if you don't run a consumer-grade tplink, netgear, asus, whatever router yourself.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by markasoftware on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:03PM (#50345348)
Nah I wouldn't worry about I'm sure they're fine
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by snapplebobapple on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:05PM (#50345371)
Good thing everything on the lan side is fully patched all the time. God bless those vigilant smart device manufacturers, especially the tv guys
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by wps on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:09PM (#50345417)
This is one of the biggest benefits of using OpenWRT. They update the entire stack like every other month or so you’re never on an ancient kernel or utils.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by davrosthedalek on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:17PM (#50345523)
I checked yesterday. Updates were not ready yet. I took the chance to upgrade from 21 to 25 anyway.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by za_creature on Monday November 02, 2026 @09:01PM (#50347043)
It's a bit of bad luck tbh; they just made a point release a few days prior to the bug being announced, with kernel .112
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by Saris on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @07:43AM (#50351325)
The downside is it warns me if I update things will probably break and to take a backup, I've always been wary of updating my openwrt router because of that.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by fn-mote on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @07:57AM (#50351446)
No kidding make a backup. The warning is sensible.

I haven’t had problems upgrading in at least 4 years. There’s a screen where you click a button to auto-upgrade.

Just get it installed.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by LaurensBER on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:21PM (#50345572)
Is it a cause of concern? Yes. Will you get hacked? Most likely not.

Most consumer routers run ancient stacks with all kinds of weird proprietary vendor patches that are tied to a specific kernel version. Looking at you Qualcomm!

However they generally also drop all traffic by default so from the WAN side they look like a black hole. I guess that's "safe" enough for most consumers.

For fun, take a look at the open PRs in the OpenWRT repos. Those people are doing some amazing work but it's also frustrating to see them struggle with things that _could_ be easy if the vendor made some slightly better choices.

I would strongly prefer something like OpenWRT though. Call me paranoid but after the last few weeks I'm increasingly less comfortable with connecting my devices to a blackbox.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by majorchord on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:39PM (#50345816)
I know the context here is consumer routers, but for those reading who might be running a server, or a homelab, or anything that does accept connections from outside, I want to make it clear that "most likely not" turns into "likely trivial if targeted" for servers.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by dwedge on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:46PM (#50345910)
Can you give examples of kernel bugs that can be targeted on an otherwise locked down system? Let's say something running just LAMP and all other ports closed off with a software firewall.

There are plenty of out of support systems still in the wild and while I'm not arguing they are completely secure I was under the impression that kernel vulnerabilities generally make a minor exploit in something else worse (chained priv escalation for example) and generally are difficult to exploit on their own. If I'm mistaken I'd love to know

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by majorchord on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:08PM (#50346150)
Any TCP packet (with IP options) you can send to a Linux kernel that doesn't get DROP'd by netfilter makes you technically vulnerable.

That includes the one port your LAMP stack uses.

Or, the attacker might be originating from the other side of a device, like within a LAN. Malicious employees/house guests/what-have-you could target devices from inside your network where most servers don't have as much protection or have other open ports accessible.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by cjbprime on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:28PM (#50346313)
Does the bug we're talking about not count as an example for some reason?
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by harry8 on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:29PM (#50346326)
Don't a lot of consumer routers allow for remote connection for tech help trouble-shooting?

How about forwarding a port for wireguard or ssh?

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by userbinator on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:34PM (#50347729)
Those are usually not enabled by default.

AFAIK all the backdoors which have been found in some models are only accessible from the LAN side, and if you have an attacker inside the network, it's already too late.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by ranger_danger on Monday November 02, 2026 @11:43PM (#50348176)
> if you have an attacker inside the network, it's already too late.

Disagree, I think it's still a good idea to try to mitigate e.g. root escalations via this bug from devices within your network as well, as they could become compromised at any moment via other means and then promote themselves to root.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by TheDong on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @04:35AM (#50349875)
> if you have an attacker inside the network, it's already too late.

It shouldn't be though. Just because my smart lightbulb has an RCE and is isolated on its own VLAN with the router doesn't mean it should be able to attack the router and escalate to access my devices on other VLANs. It should only be able to do damage limited within its own vlan.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by j45 on Monday November 02, 2026 @08:17PM (#50346751)
It's a massive risk, and only a matter of time. Especially for hardware that's no longer updated firmware wise.

I'm thinking of what to do myself.

The ghost of android releasing 6 month old patches every month is going to come home to roost.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by iAMkenough on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:26PM (#50345641)
Same for Flock cameras, running a 2017 kernel.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by qw3rty01 on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:33PM (#50345748)
A lot of them run BSD, not linux, which wasn't affected
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by harry8 on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:42PM (#50345836)
BSD never ever has security issues so kernel updates are never necessary?

That would be a bold claim and one I've never heard before. Hard not to be suspicious of it.

This secuirty floor is unlikely to be the only secuirty floor that ever happens to a kernel used by routers.

The point: Consumer routers do not seem to get updates. Ever.

Is that a worry or what?

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by harry8 on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:21PM (#50346262)
Google tells me almost none of them run BSD and nothing I've ever heard of, much less seen.

But what do I know about it beyond that?

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by wolvoleo on Monday November 02, 2026 @11:00PM (#50347883)
BSD is very popular for open router ecosystems, like pfSense, opnSense.

Some more commercial ones (pfsense is commercial) use it too like juniper junos.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by harry8 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @01:20AM (#50348712)
We’re talking about consumer router/wireless APs here.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by Fnoord on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @03:06AM (#50349327)
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Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by ahoka on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @03:14AM (#50349382)
Last consumer router that ran any kind of BSD based firmware was probably Apple Airport and that was a long time ago.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by nullpoint420 on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:43PM (#50347785)
could be intentional, even
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by wolvoleo on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:57PM (#50347866)
> BSD never ever has security issues so kernel updates are never necessary?

Of course it does. But it was not affected in this particular case.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by wahern on Monday November 02, 2026 @06:36PM (#50345773)
Google Wifi used to be good about that. I even got a notification for when my AP was being EOL'd and would no longer receive automatic firmware updates. I don't know if Google is still on the ball there. The Nest acquisition was confusing. Have the Google Wifi and Nest Wifi teams been merged?
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by toofy on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:07PM (#50346140)
even more concerning would be the ones who run closed source os but never update.

at least with an open source os there are more paths forward.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by deepsun on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:16PM (#50346222)
Ubiquity routers and APs do. Also schedulable backups.

Granted they are pro-sumer devices, not strictly consumer.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by cpburns2009 on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:24PM (#50346286)
My UDM-Pro had an update available yesterday. I don't know if it's related to the CVE or the shit eMudhra CA.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by harry8 on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:34PM (#50346374)
This is a good point, thanks. We know one does which beats none.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by roryirvine on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @04:58AM (#50350039)
According to its logs, my bargain basement Huawei 4G router from 2019 got an update last week.

I hope that most of these devices actually do update themselves automatically, and people just aren't noticing. (Whether the updates are any good is another matter!)

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by angry_octet on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @08:05AM (#50351522)
It got an update, but from whom?
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by iberator on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:19PM (#50346233)
most of the routers are patched by ISPs directly. also: they are usually not x86 architecture - so not all exploits are possible.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by harry8 on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:25PM (#50346291)
Never seen an ISP patch a router. Ever.

MIPS and Arm have no security issues ever so never need patching which is an x86 only thing? Or maybe this comment is no more relevant than pointing out not all Arm patches apply to x86?

LLMs are giving script kids nation state level tools and expertise.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by edoceo on Monday November 02, 2026 @09:09PM (#50347099)
I'm on Comcast in USA, I BYOD for the router and it's a Netgear C3500 (I think). It gets new firmware pushed to it from Comcast. Can't even load your own manually.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by harry8 on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:09PM (#50347544)
BYOD = bring your own device? And yet your isp pushes updates to it?

Defintely seems potentially better than no updates at all.

How do you know if you have a wide open CVE they're ignoring, like it's claimed ubuntu are doing?

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by duskwuff on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @12:59AM (#50348597)
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Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by edoceo on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @01:10AM (#50348646)
Correct, and they are limited in features. I'm going to swap out this combo-modem+WiFi and get a dedicated -modem and then have a different device as my "edge" router/NAT
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by kevin_thibedeau on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:27PM (#50346306)
This is why I use a fanless PC as my internal router. I have complete control and get timely kernel updates from a responsible distro.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by estebarb on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:34PM (#50346364)
Mosty probably: not. Traffic passes throught the ASIC, usually it is not processed on CPU or custom code. Unlike typical web servers, that reduces the attack surface as there aren't software parsers (a common place where vulnerabilities hide). Additionally the OS may have additional protection measures, such as signing each binary, signing the booting image and limiting which syscalls can be done by any binary.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by majorchord on Monday November 02, 2026 @11:47PM (#50348200)
The bug in question is not mitigated by any userspace actions (like signing binaries or boot images) or even by limiting syscalls, and all it takes is a listening socket on the device from either direction (inside or outside the network) to get root since router-destined packets are always processed by the CPU.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by duskwuff on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @12:06AM (#50348310)
> Additionally the OS may have additional protection measures, such as signing each binary, signing the booting image and limiting which syscalls can be done by any binary.

I'd love for that to be true. Unfortunately, a lot of consumer routers are fairly straightforward Linux systems with no particular attempts at hardening.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by lxgr on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @04:30AM (#50349848)
All traffic? In particular, I'd expect new connection establishment to go through a software path, looking up port forwarding and firewall rules etc. and creating hardware forwarding table entries if applicable.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by pengaru on Monday November 02, 2026 @07:57PM (#50346566)
eero updates its APs OTA, they run linux. Even stuff sold > 5 years ago is still receiving updates.

full disclosure: they're my employer

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by Chaosvex on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @07:05AM (#50350962)
Eero needs to make sure that they're the only ones exfiltrating data from their products. :^)
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by tonymet on Monday November 02, 2026 @09:10PM (#50347109)
i admit they don't enumerate their patches well, but the major residential router vendors do regular updates , usually indicated with "security fixes" .

unfortunately most lack SSH access or a real ability to test the kernel patch version.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by 0rzech on Monday November 02, 2026 @09:17PM (#50347150)
> I never see security upgrades for the kernels they use. Not one. Not ever.

Turris [1] has already been updating their routers for years and they continue doing it.

[1] https://www.turris.com

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by harry8 on Monday November 02, 2026 @10:06PM (#50347522)
Good to know and to be introduced to Turris.

10G looks a little less consumer-y. I'd imagine cisco, arista, etc do security updates if you want to go down that path.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by 0rzech on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @12:09AM (#50348327)
AFAIK, none of Turris' models supports WPA Enterprise, which I'd consider necessary for enterprise-grade routers. OTOH, their products are Open Source and Open Hardware, are still pretty powerful, and are much cheaper than enterprise HW with similar capabilities.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by lambdaone on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @05:23AM (#50350175)
My home router is managed by my ISP. They can, and do, remotely upgrade routers in the middle of the night.
Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by user2722 on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @06:43AM (#50350777)
You may want to try to look at Gl.inet routers. I'm not sure yet what is their modus operandi, but at least Flint 2 has both their official firmware (with Mediatek's SDK, I guess) and a vanilla Openwrt version -- on their company page.

Their features (Glinet's mesh) are not compatible but it does seem better than just drop support totally.

There also seems to be some involvement in the upbringing of openwrt support -- so it's not a hands-off approach, but on the other hand I'm only looking at Flint 2 firmware/OS development.

Additionally, their Flint 3e uses Qualcomm so the route it takes may be different -- though I hope not!!!

Now, if we are talking about my ISP router/modem....... I'd rather not think about it.

PS: Gl.inet also has a router with fiber optic. Not sure how that would work if I wanted to throw my ISP's router/modem out the window.

Re:Ubuntu still has not released patch for Linux 0day RCE in... by Maken on Tuesday November 03, 2026 @07:16AM (#50351056)
I have a MikroTik router at home, and they have already patched this [1]

[1] https://mikrohub.io/mikrotik/changelog/long-term/7.24.6