Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by mynti on Friday September 25, 2026 @08:27AM
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The tech has always been mature enough but simply too expensive. But since combustion engines are sold out for the next years, data centers are rushing to get anything they can. So the extra millions for power generation will be a rounding error
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Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by dfedbeef on Friday September 25, 2026 @10:29AM
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I would think someone would have run those numbers first.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by MengerSponge on Friday September 25, 2026 @11:48AM
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You would think, right?
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by lazide on Friday September 25, 2026 @11:48AM
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No time to think, go go go.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by augment_me on Friday September 25, 2026 @12:44PM
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If the numbers dont add up it's fucked anyways who cares just send it
Also worst comes to worst government will have to bail them out to not cause massive unrest
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by red-iron-pine on Friday September 25, 2026 @01:51PM
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someone did, determined it would make them look bad, and pawned the assignment off to a junior executive to take the blame.
if it works then they delegated successfully and the project is winning and if not then they blame the neophyte VP and walk away with another quarterly bonus anyway.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by onlyrealcuzzo on Friday September 25, 2026 @08:33AM
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Electricity is about 3% of their total operating cost, so, yes.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by FuriouslyAdrift on Friday September 25, 2026 @09:46AM
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Energy is the largest OPEX by far (70-80%)... taxes second.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by onlyrealcuzzo on Friday September 25, 2026 @11:55AM
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That's if you don't count hardware amortization - which is 80% of the cost...
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by FuriouslyAdrift on Friday September 25, 2026 @02:12PM
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That's not OPEX, that's CAPEX and tangible assets are depreicated not amortized.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by cyanydeez on Friday September 25, 2026 @10:08AM
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Anyone who puts a local model on a GPU understands how much heat they produce.
Its amusing watching cloud AI users struggle to grasp even direct impacts of their use.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by fedecaccia on Friday September 25, 2026 @09:36AM
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The cost of electricity is (almost) negligible compared to the cost of having GPUs sitting idle. Electricity from fuel cells can be twice as expensive, but even then, it represents only about an extra ~15% of the amortization cost associated with keeping the GPU hardware idle.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by simiones on Friday September 25, 2026 @10:33AM
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That's not an operating cost, it's capital cost.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by chorizo on Friday September 25, 2026 @12:00PM
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Yes, but given the 3-5 year lifespan of the server infra capex, the separation becomes less meaningful. Better to count the entire TCO or discounted cashflow accounting for the rapid asset depreciation.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by hylaride on Friday September 25, 2026 @09:44AM
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There is no way it's 3% if they're getting electricity from the grid, even if they get their cooling from somewhere else (eg lake/river water or outside air in winter). Median DCs are anywhere from 25-40% (depending on the jurisdiction's electricity costs and how much cooling they need). Hypercaler datacenters tend to be even more dense than the median traditional ones.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by pjc50 on Friday September 25, 2026 @09:00AM
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That seems surprising - source? What's the other 97%? Does this include ops staff?
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by simon-b on Friday September 25, 2026 @09:13AM
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I saw a breakdown (don't have on hand sorry) where server depreciation was by far the majority. Power was the largest cash opex, probably matching your intuition.
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by nomorewords on Friday September 25, 2026 @09:09AM
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Without having done any research at this point I would assume it's mostly the amortized cost of hardware - GPUs, memory etc
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by pjc50 on Friday September 25, 2026 @09:12AM
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That's capex not opex!
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by doikor on Friday September 25, 2026 @09:13AM
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The stuff inside the buildings (servers, switches, storage, cooling, etc) basically the stuff using the electricity and salaries/sub contractors (in addition to some techs handling the servers think security, cleaning, storage management, receiving shipments of new hardware, etc). Some taxes (depends a lot where)
Re:Oracle on the hook to pay data centre investors even if s...
by walthamstow on Friday September 25, 2026 @08:54AM
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Electricity is only 3% of opex for a data centre?