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Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by 5upplied_demand on Thursday July 09, 2026 @11:38AM (#48847698)
> When I read we spent $1B, I think about how I'm responsible for $3 of that.

I like to think about how providing 4-week paid parental leave would cost $2 billion annually and actually help US families. Meanwhile we have spent over $100 billion on this war.

Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by joenot443 on Thursday July 09, 2026 @11:47AM (#48847890)
My back of napkin figures gave me about $20-40b. I'm curious how you got to the $2 billion number?
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by adityashankar on Thursday July 09, 2026 @12:00PM (#48848102)
How do you even estimate that, human productivity is non linear to worktime and often, employees, when given good benefits are likely to be more productive.

also there's the fact of this having a ROI since people generate economic value in the longer run, and hence, more taxes

Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by 5upplied_demand on Thursday July 09, 2026 @12:20PM (#48848408)
I'm curious about your napkin math, care to share?

I got mine from a paper published by the University of Chicago: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/735565.

Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by lazide on Thursday July 09, 2026 @11:49AM (#48847919)
So far….
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by milkytron on Thursday July 09, 2026 @12:25PM (#48848483)
Considering the push for reproduction from this admin and his technocrats, I'm curious if they would consider something like this.
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by 5upplied_demand on Thursday July 09, 2026 @12:36PM (#48848631)
One would think, but the flip-side is that this supports more women in the workforce. Traditional roles of men working and women caring for kids seems like a bigger priority of this admin.

I do think it is a policy point that Democrats should absolutely be hammering them on. This is pro-worker and pro-family at very low cost.

Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by LadyCailin on Friday July 10, 2026 @03:48AM (#48856984)
Most of republican’s decisions become much more logically consistent once you realize they just want to control people, primarily women and minorities. It isn’t and has never been about “family values” or “religious freedom” or “small government”. If it was about those things, they would look far more like democrats.
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by pornel on Thursday July 09, 2026 @08:07PM (#48854174)
They don't want all Americans to reproduce. Making a law they want still needs a couple of Supreme Court decisions overturned.
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by CMay on Thursday July 09, 2026 @01:04PM (#48849078)
The cost of not having this war could have been 8 trillion and countless lives, or some arbitrarily huge number. Many of the actions taken this year are directly intended to curb the possible events that could lead to World War 3. Iran is directly connected to all of that.

Seems like money well spent.

Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by 5upplied_demand on Thursday July 09, 2026 @01:19PM (#48849329)
> the possible events that could lead to World War 3. Iran is directly connected to all of that.

If any event has pushed us closer to WW3 it is the US's decision to preemptively attack Iran.

> Seems like money well spent.

Based on what outcome? The regime is still intact, if not stronger. They are likely more resolute in wanting a nuclear weapon, as we almost certainly wouldn't have attacked them if they had one. They have validated their control over the Straight of Hormuz and it's impact on our economy.

Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by CMay on Thursday July 09, 2026 @02:43PM (#48850585)
> If any event has pushed us closer to WW3 it is the US's decision to preemptively attack Iran.

The US is reacting to Iran's attacks in the region. Iran has been attacking first.

> Based on what outcome? The regime is still intact, if not stronger.

> They are likely more resolute in wanting a nuclear weapon, as we almost certainly wouldn't have attacked them if they had one.

Russia has nukes and yet Ukraine is happily able to attack deep into Russia. Russia hasn't nuked Ukraine yet. I suspect if we had to, we still would've attacked them. Countries like Iran and North Korea lose their entire country if they launch a nuke.

> They have validated their control over the Straight of Hormuz and it's impact on our economy.

What was validated is that they have limited control over the strait, and we also have validated control over the strait as well as economic impact on Iran.

The more they harass the strait, the weaker that card becomes as more investment goes into alternatives.

This also pressures Chinese oil supply chain.

Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by Hikikomori on Thursday July 09, 2026 @01:26PM (#48849448)
Hundreds of billions spent on a war you lost and best case scenario is going back to the deal Obama made. Money well spent indeed.
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by CMay on Thursday July 09, 2026 @11:58PM (#48855592)
That's a propaganda line. Iran has lost most of its capacity to make war, but it can still harass.

The money is also not as relevant as people think. The amount of money is largely political fluff, not much in the way of serious economic impact in a $32 trillion economy.

Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by platevoltage on Thursday July 09, 2026 @02:34PM (#48850474)
There were WMDs in Iraq too right?
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by CMay on Friday July 10, 2026 @12:00AM (#48855612)
Iraq was never really about WMDs. WMDs were a surface political mechanism to achieve the aims, which were different. If you look at all the individual events that transpired before then it was clear something had to be done, but it wasn't a neat one liner that's easy to rally people around like WMDs.
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by platevoltage on Friday July 10, 2026 @09:52PM (#48867771)
Wow. It's like you're trying not to get it.
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by toephu2 on Thursday July 09, 2026 @01:08PM (#48849115)
California already more or less provides 8 weeks of paid parental leave (PFL program).
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by 5upplied_demand on Thursday July 09, 2026 @01:21PM (#48849358)
That is great, unfortunately almost 90% of the country lives in a state other than California.
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by fragmede on Friday July 10, 2026 @02:26AM (#48856438)
88.5%, to be precise.
Re:US seeks cheaper hunter-killer drones after Iran destroys... by magicalhippo on Monday July 13, 2026 @07:34AM (#48891103)
Here in Norway it's 49 weeks with 100% pay.

Mom gets 3 weeks before birth, both gets 15 weeks each, and 16 weeks can be distributed as parents see fit.

So if mom gets the full 16 weeks, she gets 34 weeks total, and partner gets 15 weeks.

Parents can decide to get 80% pay, in which case they get 61 weeks total.

Some weeks around birth is fixed, apart from that parents can decide how to use it. One could work two days a week and have three days off, for example.

The pay is capped, but many employers will compensate the difference for high earners.