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Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by lanyard-textile on Thursday April 16, 2026 @11:31AM (#47794755)
This comment thread is a good learner for founders; look at how much anguish can be put to bed with just a little honest communication.

1. Oops, we're oversubscribed.

2. Oops, adaptive reasoning landed poorly / we have to do it for capacity reasons.

3. Here's how subscriptions work. Am I really writing this bullet point?

As someone with a production application pinned on Opus 4.5, it is extremely difficult to tell apart what is code harness drama and what is a problem with the underlying model. It's all just meshed together now without any further details on what's affected.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by zarzavat on Thursday April 16, 2026 @12:17PM (#47795643)
These threads are always full of superstitious nonsense. Had a bad week at the AIs? Someone at Anthropic must have nerfed the model!

The roulette wheel isn't rigged, sometimes you're just unlucky. Try another spin, maybe you'll do better. Or just write your own code.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by 2001zhaozhao on Thursday April 16, 2026 @02:00PM (#47797175)
Start vibe-coding -> the model does wonders -> the codebase grows with low code quality -> the spaghetti code builds up to the point where the model stops working -> attempts to fix the codebase with AI actually make it worse -> complain online "model is nerfed"
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by NewsaHackO on Thursday April 16, 2026 @03:10PM (#47798069)
I remember there was a guy that had three(!) Claude Max subscriptions, and said he was reducing his subscriptions to one because of some superfluous problem. I'm thinking, nah, you are clearly already addicted to the LLM slot machine, and I doubt you will be able to code independently from agent use at this point. Antropic, has already won in your case.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by teaearlgraycold on Thursday April 16, 2026 @05:02PM (#47799470)
I don’t really understand the slot machine, addiction, dopamine meme with LLM coding. Yeah it’s nice when a tool saves you time. Are people addicted to CNCs, table saws, and 3D printers?
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by NewsaHackO on Thursday April 16, 2026 @05:50PM (#47799966)
I don't use the agentic workflow (as I am using it for my own personal projects), but if you have ever used it, there is this rush when it solves a problem that you have been struggling with for some time, especially if it gives a solution in an approach you never even considered that it has baked in its knowledge base. It's like an "Eureka" moment. Of course, as you use it more and more, you start to get better at recognizing "Eureka" moments and hallucinations, but I can definitely see how some people keep chasing that rush/feeling you get when it uses 5 minutes to solve a problem that would have taken you ages to do (if at all).

Also, another difference is the stochastic nature of the LLMs. With table saws, CNC machines, and modern 3D printers, you kind of know what you are getting out. With LLMs, there is a whole chance aspect; sometimes, what it spits out is plainly incorrect, sometimes, it is exactly what you are thinking, but when you hit the jackpot, and get the nugget of info that elegantly solves the problem, you get the rush. Then, you start the whole bikeshedding of your prompt/models/parameters to try and hit the jackpot again.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by fumar on Thursday April 16, 2026 @11:29PM (#47802200)
It is the rush of "wow it solved this." I should take a break and work on something else, but in the back of my mind "what else can it solve?" Then I come up with extra work and sometimes lose at the LLM casino.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by kakacik on Thursday April 16, 2026 @06:19PM (#47800257)
The dopamine rush to fix the issue super quickly, close the ticket, slack / work more?

Absolutely, not understanding why you even ask. Humans are creatures of habits that often dip a bit or more into outright addictions, in one of its many forms.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by wheatbond on Thursday April 16, 2026 @05:16PM (#47799601)
Yes
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by YZF on Friday April 17, 2026 @12:33AM (#47802472)
It's fun and you do get a dopamine rush when LLM does something cool for you. I'm certainly feeling it as a user. Perhaps you can get the same from other tools. I would vote for yes- addictive.

But it's also a tool that (can) save(s) you time.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by Jtarii on Friday April 17, 2026 @03:50AM (#47803500)
Long term LLM use will greatly reduce your ability to work in the absense of them. Which is how addiction works.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by idiocache on Friday April 17, 2026 @06:02AM (#47804243)
dopameme?
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by jacamera on Friday April 17, 2026 @06:31AM (#47804417)
I don't think there are good analogies to physical tools. It would be something like a nondeterministic version of a replicator from Star Trek which to me would feel much closer to a slot machine than a CNC mill.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by Grimburger on Friday April 17, 2026 @07:13AM (#47804637)
I've watched my boss type out a lengthy few sentences to do a find+replace, it took him a few minutes.

This is a guy with 10+ years experience as a dev. It was a watershed moment for me, many people really have stopped thinking for themselves.

The way humans are depicted in Wall-E springs to mind as being quite prescient, it wasn't meant to be a doco

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by i_love_retros on Friday April 17, 2026 @08:16AM (#47805091)
My team lead said he uses coding agents to format code.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by teaearlgraycold on Friday April 17, 2026 @01:58PM (#47808689)
You mean he uses agents to set up a formatter? Right? Right????
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by i_love_retros on Friday April 17, 2026 @02:20PM (#47808955)
Haha! No!
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by theappsecguy on Friday April 17, 2026 @10:31AM (#47806374)
I have unfortunately found myself doing stuff like this too, although maybe not as egregious.

I think part of the problem is that our brains are wired to look for the path of least resistance, and so shoving everything into an LLM prompt becomes an easy escape hatch. I'm trying to combat this myself, but finding it not trivial, to be honest. All these tools are kind of just making me lazier week over week.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by teaearlgraycold on Friday April 17, 2026 @02:01PM (#47808721)
There’s some kind of new failure mode here. People seem to determine a tool’s applicability for a task by whether its interface allows for their request to be entered. An open ended natural language input field lets people enter any request, regardless of the underlying tool’s suitability.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by i_love_retros on Friday April 17, 2026 @08:16AM (#47805086)
Not sure what CNCs are but table saws and 3d printers still require thinking, planning, guiding by the operator.

I know I know you're going to say (or simonw will) that effective and responsible use of LLM coding agents also requires those things, but in the real world that just isn't what's happening.

I am witnessing first hand people on my team pasting in a jira story, pressing the button and hoping for the best. And since it does sometimes do a somewhat decent job, they are addicted.

I literally heard my team lead say to someone "just use copilot so you don't have to use your brain". He's got all the tools- windsurf, antigravity, codex, copilot- just keeps firing off vibe coded pull requests.

Our manager has AI psychosis, says the teams that keep their jobs will be the ones that move fastest using AI, doesn't matter what mess the code base ends up in because those fast moving teams get to move on to other projects while the loser slow teams inherit and maintain the mess.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by efficax on Friday April 17, 2026 @09:34AM (#47805791)
does your table saw build you a bookshelf by itself? and then you build other things and get confident in it and say: ok build me a house and it tries but then the house falls over?
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by 112233 on Friday April 17, 2026 @11:50AM (#47807251)
The addiction research has terms like LDWs and near-misses. It is massively researched topic. Even cursory reading helps to understand why table saw makes really bad slot machine. Really bad 3d printer? Maaaybe. But LLMs are, either by intelligent design or coincidence of worst outcomes, excellent slot machines! They almost succeed, produce small payouts, create suspense and anticipation, and their operation is unpredictable. Table saws have a long way to go
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by unshavedyak on Thursday April 16, 2026 @12:49PM (#47796138)
Part of me wonders if there's some subtle behavioral change with it too. Early on we're distrusting of a model and so we're blown away, we were giving it more details to compensate for assumed inability, but the model outperformed our expectations. Weeks later we're more aligned with its capabilities and so we become lazy. The model is very good, why do we have to put in as much work to provide specifics, specs, ACs, etc. So then of course the quality slides because we assumed it's capabilities somehow absolved the need for the same detailed guardrails (spec, ACs, etc) for the LLM.

This scenario obviously does not apply to folks who run their own benches with the same inputs between models. I'm just discussing a possible and unintentional human behavioral bias.

Even if this isn't the root cause, humans are really bad at perceiving reality. Like, really really bad. LLMs are also really difficult to objectively measure. I'm sure the coupling of these two facts play a part, possibly significant, in our perception of LLM quality over time.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by youoy on Thursday April 16, 2026 @03:41PM (#47798473)
100% agree, and I experienced that behaviour first hand. I got confident, started giving less guidelines, and suddenly two weeks have passed and the LLM put me into a state of horrible code that looks good superficially because I trusted it too much.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by mewpmewp2 on Thursday April 16, 2026 @01:55PM (#47797087)
Still I don't previously remember Claude constantly trying to stop conversations or work, as in "something is too much to do", "that's enough for this session, let's leave rest to tomorrow", "goodbye", etc. It's almost impossible to get it do refactoring or anything like that, it's always "too massive", etc.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by egeozcan on Friday April 17, 2026 @12:18AM (#47802416)
Even superpowers started dividing things into "phases".

"I think we can postpone this to phase 2 and start with the basics".

Meanwhile using more tokens to make a silly plan to divide tasks among those phases, complicated analysis of dependency chains, deliverables, all that jazz. All unprompted.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by colordrops on Friday April 17, 2026 @12:39AM (#47802496)
I thought I was tripping when I saw this. Must have been a measure to reduce usage to save them some compute.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by OccamsMirror on Friday April 17, 2026 @01:15AM (#47802640)
Not to mention the amount of placeholders and TODOs it's leaving in the codebase but then declaring that it's finished the work.

I've cancelled my subscriptions to both Codex and Claude and am going to go back to writing my own code.

When the merry-go-round of cheap high quality inference truly ends, I don't want to be caught out.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by darkteflon on Friday April 17, 2026 @03:14AM (#47803291)
I keep reading about this, but I have never, ever seen it. Daily Claude Max user for ~6 months. Not saying it doesn’t happen, but it’s never once happened to me.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by pas on Friday April 17, 2026 @10:07AM (#47806099)
A really big unknown in all of these anecdotes is what skills people have installed (and what's in their CLAUDE.md, and ...)
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by JohnMakin on Friday April 17, 2026 @11:53AM (#47807289)
This really is a lot of it, at least trying to help people at work internally. I've discovered a lot of people overly rely on Claude writing directives (always do X, never do Y, remember this every time) to its MEMORY.md, which it does mostly unprompted. The problem is, the few times I've noticed my agent getting "squirrely," some or a lot of the stuff in MEMORY.md was flat out wrong (the agent wrote down the wrong memory), confused or in direct contradiction with its CLAUDE.md, etc.

When I fixed this, it was like magic, working how I wanted again. I now have a skill to periodically audit MEMORY.md and CLAUDE.md according to the conventions I've learned work best for me - which I suppose /dream is supposed to handle eventually, but you're kind of trusting it to audit its own memories, which have, at least to me, already proven to be unreliable.

With so many factors like this, not even to mention context exhaustion, window size, effort, etc. - anecdotal evidence is almost worthless without examining someone's entire local state.

A lot of it, to me, feels like user error, I haven't really noticed much behavioral difference between 4.5, 4.6, and 4.7, at least in my own workflow. I will note though that constantly managing these things is a lot of work that I hope one day becomes less necessary. It's more than I can expect people on my team to manage on their own, and unless I sit down with them 1 on 1 and review their issues, or write some clever agent to help them, I don't really know how I can help people reporting things that I hear posted here a lot.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by codethief on Friday April 17, 2026 @12:02PM (#47807396)
Hasn't happened to me, either, but this GitHub comment is reporting similar observations: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/42796#issue...
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by delbronski on Thursday April 16, 2026 @12:33PM (#47795889)
Nah dude, that roulette wheel is 100% rigged. From top to bottom. No doubt about that. If you think they are playing fair you are either brand new to this industry, or a masochist.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by awwaiid on Thursday April 16, 2026 @03:33PM (#47798359)
It's also difficult to recognize that when it got it right THAT might have been the lucky week.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by lnenad on Thursday April 16, 2026 @01:56PM (#47797109)
I mean they literally said on their own end that adaptive thinking isn't working as it should. They rolled it out silently, enabled by default, and haven't rolled it back.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by dakolli on Thursday April 16, 2026 @01:47PM (#47796973)
Its because llm companies are literally building quasi slot machines, their UI interfaces support this notion, for instance you can run a multiplier on your output x3,x4,5, Like a slot machine. Brain fried llm users are behaving like gamblers more and more everyday (its working). They have all sorts of theories why one model is better than another, like a gambler does about a certain blackjack table or slot machine, it makes sense in their head but makes no sense on paper.

Don't use these technologies if you can't recognize this, like a person shouldn't gamble unless they understand concretely the house has a statistical edge and you will lose if you play long enough. You will lose if you play with llms long enough too, they are also statistical machines like casino games.

This stuff is bad for your brain for a lot of people, if not all.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by nextaccountic on Thursday April 16, 2026 @03:09PM (#47798053)
I agree with the notion, except that the models are indeed different

Some day maybe they will converge into approximately the same thing but then training will stop making economic sense (why spend millions to have ~the same thing?)

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by leptons on Thursday April 16, 2026 @02:43PM (#47797718)
100% agree with this take. As I find myself using AI to write software, it is looking like gambling. And it isn't helping stimulate my brain in ways that actually writing code does. I feel like my brain is starting to atrophy. I learn so much by coding things myself, and everything I learn makes me stronger. That doesn't happen with AI. Sure I skim through what the AI produced, but not enough to really learn from it. And the next time I need to do something similar, the AI will be doing it anyway. I'm not sure I like this rabbit hole we're all going down. I suspect it doesn't lead to good things.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by dakolli on Thursday April 16, 2026 @07:39PM (#47800893)
It a terrifying path we're taking, everyone's competency is going to be 1:1 correlated to the quality and quantity of tokens they can afford (or be loaned).. I prefer to build by hand, I also don't think its that much slower to do by hand, and much rewarding... Sure you can be faster if you're building slop landing pages for your hypothetical SaaS you'll never finish but why would I want to build those things.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by leptons on Friday April 17, 2026 @01:29AM (#47802706)
It's not slower to do by hand. I race the AI all the time. I give it a simple task to write a small script that I need to complete a task that is blocking me... and the "thinking" thing spins and spins. So I often just fire up a code editor and write it myself, often before the AI is actually done after I have to cajole it through 10 iterations to get what I want. And when I race it, I get what I want every time, and often in the same or less time than it takes the AI (plus the time that I have to spend cajoling it).
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by bcjdjsndon on Friday April 17, 2026 @08:30AM (#47805211)
> I feel like my brain is starting to atrophy

On the upside, there wasnt much to atrophy in the first place

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by portly on Thursday April 16, 2026 @04:27PM (#47799058)
Good to remind this. But I also don't want to go back to pre-llm. Some dev activities are just too painful and boring, like correctly writing s3 policies. We must have discipline to decide what is worth our attention and what we should automate, because there is only so much mind energy we can spend each day.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by colordrops on Thursday April 16, 2026 @05:46PM (#47799927)
Sorry but this is a ridiculous comment. It's not magic. There are countless levers that can be changed and ARE changed to affect quality and cost, and it's known that compute is scarce.

We aren't superstitious, you are just ignorant.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by andai on Thursday April 16, 2026 @06:32PM (#47800370)
They don't nerf the model, just lower the default reasoning effort, encourage shorter responses in the system prompt, etc. Totally different ;)
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by theptip on Thursday April 16, 2026 @09:15PM (#47801521)
I normally agree with this, but they objectively did lower the default effort level, and this caused people to get worse performance unexpectedly.

And it does seem likely to me that there were intermittent bugs in adaptive reasoning, based on posts here by Boris.

So all told, in this case it seems correct to say that Opus has been very flaky in its reasoning performance.

I think both of these changes were good faith and in isolation reasonable, ie most users don’t need high effort reasoning. But for the users that do need high effort, they really notice the difference.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by Gareth321 on Friday April 17, 2026 @04:08AM (#47803590)
Opus 4.6 did actually get dumber. The Director of AI at AMD logged a pretty detailed issue with receipts: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/42796
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by pas on Friday April 17, 2026 @10:13AM (#47806168)
Both can be true at the same time. There's no(t enough) transparency about this.

Though I reckon even if the HN crowd is a loud minority Anthropic has no problem with traction, and even if eventually it will the enterprise market doesn't care much about HN threads.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by kulikalov on Thursday April 16, 2026 @12:01PM (#47795367)
Or it could be a selection bias. The ground truth is not what HN herd mentality complains about, but the usage stats.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by lanyard-textile on Thursday April 16, 2026 @12:09PM (#47795497)
I suppose I come forward with my own usage stats, but it is anecdata :)

And the andecdata matches other anecdata.

Maybe I'm missing why that's selection bias.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by drewnick on Thursday April 16, 2026 @11:40AM (#47794941)
Hasn't Opus 4.5 been famously consistent while 4.6 was floating all over the place?
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by JohnMakin on Thursday April 16, 2026 @04:19PM (#47798964)
I'm still on 4.5. My coworkers are describing a lot of problems I just don't have. I suspect it was some combination of the larger context window, the model itself, and various bugs like the cache miss thing reported a little while ago.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by YZF on Friday April 17, 2026 @12:34AM (#47802479)
For me 4.6 has been a noticeable leap in performance from 4.5. I'm not missing 4.5 at all.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by teling on Thursday April 16, 2026 @01:28PM (#47796706)
Good shout. Wish they were more transparent about these 3 things.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by stasomatic on Thursday April 16, 2026 @01:29PM (#47796732)
I am a neophyte regarding pros and cons of each model. I am learning the ropes, writing shell scripts, a tiny Mac app, things like that.

Reading about all the “rage switching”, isn’t it prudent to use a model broker like GH Copilot with your own harness or something like oh-my-pi? The frontier guys one up each other monthly, it’s really tiring. I get that large corps may have contracts in place, but for an in indie?

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by smw on Friday April 17, 2026 @09:36AM (#47805806)
Unfortunately, the subscription pricing is so much cheaper than usage pricing that it's probably worth using one of the official harnesses.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by sobellian on Thursday April 16, 2026 @02:36PM (#47797607)
This, plus the alchemical nature of these tools, seems to have made users pretty paranoid (I admit I am also guilty of paranoia). Maybe there's room for a Standard AI - we may change the prices based on market conditions, but we always give you exactly the model you ask for.
Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by preommr on Thursday April 16, 2026 @02:41PM (#47797686)
> This comment thread is a good learner for founders;

lmao, no they shouldn't.

Public sentiment, especially on reactionary mediums like social media should be taken with a huge grain of salt. I've seen overwhelming negativity for products/companies, only for it it completely dissapear, or be entirely wrong.

It's like that meme showing members of a steam group that are boycotting some CoD game, and you can see that a bunch of them were playing in-game of the very thing they forsook.

People are fickle, and their words cheap.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by lanyard-textile on Thursday April 16, 2026 @04:02PM (#47798729)
The internet is a stupid place with people who can't make up their mind, I don't disagree :)

But this isn't like a minor debacle about a brand. The flagship product had a severe degradation, and the parent company won't be forthcoming about it.

It's short term thinking. Congratulations, everyone still uses your product for now, but it diluted your brand.

Why take the risk when the alternative is so incredibly easily? Build engagement with your users and enjoy your loyal army.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by Barbing on Thursday April 16, 2026 @04:41PM (#47799215)
This is why we took business ethics & I know Dario had to too

How will your project/decision look on the front page of the Wall Street Journal? Well when a whistleblower reveals what everyone knows ($9b->$30b rev jump w/o servers growing on trees simultaneously = tough decisions), it's gonna be public anyway.

Re:Claude Opus 4.7 by SkyPuncher on Thursday April 16, 2026 @06:15PM (#47800224)
I agree.

I have flexibility to shift my core working hours (and what I do during N/A business hours). Knowing they're explicitly making it dumb because of load is important. It allows me to shuffle my work around and run heavy workloads late at night (plan during working hours then come click "yes" a few times in the evening).