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Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by sfdlkj3jk342a on Monday March 02, 2026 @05:00AM (#47215881)
I don't think the EU wants FOSS phones. If anything they'll push regulations that make them illegal to own. They want backdoors for all of your communication.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by holgerschurig on Monday March 02, 2026 @05:26AM (#47216078)
You have a very narrow view of the EU. The EU isn't a single body, dictated by some common mind.

We have the EU Parliament, the EU Council, the EU Commission. Often they have different views in itself (e.g. factions in EU Parliament, or commissars in the commission that are more end-user-friendly vs. ones that are move business-friendly). And the EU Council (the ring of head-of-member-states) is more often than not just of one opinion, e.g. thing at Poland when it was governed by PiS. Or of Hungary and to some smaller extend Slovakia.

"The EU wants ..." is therefore quite often wrong.

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by raincole on Monday March 02, 2026 @05:59AM (#47216369)
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

If out of 720 MEPs, 568 are supporting Chat Control, then yes, I think it's very fair to say "The EU wants...".

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by AnssiH on Monday March 02, 2026 @06:19AM (#47216510)
That site lists many of candidates as "support" just because they have not publicly opposed, so it is not a realistic view on the opinions of EU parliament. Better to look at actual votes cast.

Also, they are not distinguishing between supporting mandatory monitoring and other forms (e.g. present legal situation where monitoring is allowed).

The current proposals do not include mandatory monitoring. If mandatory chatcontrol had the wide support that site suggests, it would have been introduced and passed long ago.

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by stavros on Monday March 02, 2026 @06:25AM (#47216567)
If it's been trying to get passed for years and hasn't yet, I think it's fair to say the EU very much doesn't want.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by mcdonje on Monday March 02, 2026 @08:58AM (#47218031)
If they can't get it passed because the people don't want it, then why do they keep trying to pass it? Some entities with a lot of power or influence clearly want it. This is the same thing we see in the US. We keep saying "no", and they keep trying.

Maybe the EU people don't want it, but at least some governing body of the EU clearly does.

There's a comment not too far up in this thread saying this is more of a US thing than an EU thing, but it looks like exactly the same pattern from where I'm sitting in the US.

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by yownie on Monday March 02, 2026 @12:02PM (#47220683)
if you truly dig down it's the US and of all people Ashton Kutcher (https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters/going-dark) who are pushing this. So they can then point to the EU and say ”they do it so why not do it here?”
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by stavros on Monday March 02, 2026 @09:02AM (#47218076)
"Someone in the EU wants it" and "the EU wants it" are very different things.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by mcdonje on Monday March 02, 2026 @09:07AM (#47218143)
Synecdoche. The EU governmental body is acting like it wants it.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by stavros on Monday March 02, 2026 @09:15AM (#47218222)
And, again, that's not the EU.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by raffael_de on Monday March 02, 2026 @05:46AM (#47216240)
as long as the EU is headed by a woman who habitually loses SMS messages negotiating billion euro deals i figure the assessment you question is spot on.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by homarp on Monday March 02, 2026 @12:25PM (#47221026)
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by troupo on Monday March 02, 2026 @06:11AM (#47216457)
> If anything they'll push regulations that make them illegal to own.

And this inane take is based on what exactly?

Not on recent regulations that literally force companies to open up and interoperate?

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by victorbjorklund on Monday March 02, 2026 @05:45AM (#47216218)
I think you are talking about Trump and Palantir. That is more US thing.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by amelius on Monday March 02, 2026 @10:40AM (#47219380)