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Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by vachina on Friday February 13, 2026 @04:36AM (#47000811)
> like I'm being watched.

Working as intended? It’s a wireless CCTV.

Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by willis936 on Friday February 13, 2026 @04:56AM (#47000933)
Like they're being watched by every data broker customer on the planet, not their neighbor.
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by Sharlin on Friday February 13, 2026 @05:14AM (#47001065)
Being recorded while on public property is not illegal in many jurisdictions, but it's certainly iffy and should not be normalized. Any cameras should be directed so that they're exclusively aimed at your own property.
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by mingus88 on Friday February 13, 2026 @05:52AM (#47001316)
Counterpoint: everyone needs to own their own video streams

I hate it, but you are being recorded everywhere you go. Your plates and your face get scanned every single day, all day long. This is normalized. Privacy is dead.

You will never get access to any of that data when you need it. It is not there to help you. You need to keep your own evidence of the world around you; you never know when you will need it.

Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by assimpleaspossi on Friday February 13, 2026 @07:57AM (#47002213)
What happens to everyone when the plates and faces are recorded or scanned? Who is looking at those every day?
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by mingus88 on Friday February 13, 2026 @10:34AM (#47003852)
Nobody looks at them. It’s 2026.

In the U.S., municipal vehicles have ALPR scanners on them. They go into a database

Cop cars will ping if a flagged plate is seen (even if the front and back plates don’t match) and the officer will pull you over. Literally happens every day.

Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by assimpleaspossi on Friday February 13, 2026 @03:28PM (#47007408)
>Nobody looks at them.

Exactly my point but most of the comments here would have you believe you're going to be stupid up against a wall at any moment.

Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by mrguyorama on Friday February 13, 2026 @06:17PM (#47009160)
They exist so that when someone wants to put you up against the wall, all they have to do is craft the right SQL query. That's the product of dragnet surveillance. The chilling effect is the point.
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by assimpleaspossi on Saturday February 14, 2026 @07:43AM (#47014149)
How often does that happen to you? How often does that happen to anyone you know? In both cases my answer is never. In many comments posted here I think the only thing you fear is fear itself.
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by ls612 on Saturday February 14, 2026 @12:50PM (#47016587)
You would fit quite well in Mr Beria’s state.
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by ChrisMarshallNY on Friday February 13, 2026 @06:13AM (#47001456)
I just assume that I’m on video, at any given time.

Not condoning it; just accepting reality.

> It is not there to help you

It’s like those “This call may be monitored for 'quality' purposes.” service calls.

You can bet, that if the recording helps the company, they’ll have it, but if it helps you, well, they didn’t record that call.

Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by dwedge on Friday February 13, 2026 @06:57AM (#47001722)
Gdpr helps with this. I've made a SAR in the past for a recording. It's up to them to decide if the penalty of me having it is worse than the risk of getting caught illegally deleting it after
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by throwaway173738 on Friday February 13, 2026 @09:30AM (#47003156)
The best part of those messages is that they give you tacit permission to record the call on your phone.
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by redwall_hp on Friday February 13, 2026 @10:16AM (#47003638)
They're used heavily for the companies to harass and dehumanize the workers, too.

"You didn't try hard enough to sell the customer something else when they called with a major problem."

"How dare you deviate from the script and talk to the caller."

"Why did this take ten minutes? Get those call times down."

Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by ulrikrasmussen on Friday February 13, 2026 @05:18AM (#47001090)
I'm walking on the pavement. And yes, it is illegal to point cameras at public spaces in my country (Denmark), but the law is not really enforced.
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by SanjayMehta on Friday February 13, 2026 @06:57AM (#47001728)
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by saintfire on Friday February 13, 2026 @09:26AM (#47003117)
Seemed to mean that specific camera law, not the law as a whole.
Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by master-lincoln on Friday February 13, 2026 @10:05AM (#47003531)
Whataboutism. Parent referred to that specific law for public filming not being enforced.

Also what would one case of a law being followed like in your shared article mean? Nothing. I thus assume you are acting in bad faith.

Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by SanjayMehta on Friday February 13, 2026 @08:39PM (#47010525)
No, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the collective West and its "rules based order." No different from a Idi Amin or any authoritarian gangster regime with multi tier justice.

Whining "WhatAboutism" is the last resort of the hypocrite.

Re:Ring owners are returning their cameras by xethos on Saturday February 14, 2026 @09:30PM (#47020501)
What part of Ring or Nest's cloud-connected camera network do you consider "closed circuit"?