The Cold War was openly about changing governments.
Correct.
We really do not. And if we want to keep it that way, blurring the lines with this term is something we absolutely should not do like this.
> We really do not. And if we want to keep it that way, blurring the lines with this term is something we absolutely should not do like this.
We really do, and if we want not to, we need to address it rather than denying it.
What are we doing that constitutes the mass expulsion and killing of an ethnic or religious group in America?
No, that's probably not ethnic cleansing, since the white people who fled to the suburbs were in a position of privilege and wanted to give up their homes. The American government practices ethnic cleansing, as you assert, so and for some reason they just made it illegal to do it in their own cities for the benifit of the most privileged ethnic demographic. Perplexing.
So removing non-white Hispanics from America would count? What if the goal isn't to render the area ethnically homogenous?
Obviously that’s the argument put forth. Why phrase it as a question?
> What if the goal isn't to render the area ethnically homogenous?
A fair point, since a favorite argument of the regime and now protected legal doctrine is “the bad thing happened but it’s ok because we didn’t mean it like that”.
Except that doesn’t apply in this case since the goal is explicitly stated.
The guy literally ran away to Russia.
But interesting take. So, if Zelenskyy at some point is forced to flee to Poland, is that a proof that he was a Polish puppet all along?
So it doesn't look the situation in Ukraine was very democratic either.
No invasion (yet). Just bombing.
This is not a useful delineation for what constitutes a military invasion. Invasion means landing troops and controlling territory.
Based on what we're being told now, this was an extraction. (Slash detention. Slash kidnapping. In any case, requiring troop transport and extraction.)
Seriously, I'm patiently waiting for the day America or Russia will do the same to Netanyahu, who is an actual war criminal. Not holding my breath.
You should've been keeping scores on US' wars and regime changes, you'd had lost faith long time ago.
I am against any offensive action which leads to the misery and impoverishment of people, for some stupid power games of power hungry idiots.
Hilarious.
What would happen if panama wanted to join a defence pact with Russia ?
What happened during the Cuban missile crisis ?
I wish all countries could be independent and free of meddling from superpowers. But at some moment you have to be realistic.
Like the Baltics, Poland, Taiwan, South Korea, Berlin, ... Yeah seems pretty realistic.
> What would happen if panama wanted to join a defence pact with Russia ?
Russia or a defensive alliance that includes countries like Germany and France?
> What happened during the Cuban missile crisis ?
A bunch of cold war nonsense? Russia tried to station first strike weapons and the US responded poorly.
> I wish all countries could be independent and free of meddling from superpowers. But at some moment you have to be realistic.
Lmao and that is why you conclude that Ukraine should not be permitted to seek a defensive ally after being invaded (2014).
"Bro please just look at the expansion map. I swear bro the war started because of NATO and the US. It’s not an invasion bro it’s a forced reaction to unipolar hegemony. Just one more provocation and the bear had to bite back. Please bro just admit it's a proxy war. I promise bro if the West just stayed out of the sphere of influence everything would be fine."
This tribalism that you display is exactly the reason that we end up in situations that we have. Do not pledge tribal allegiance to anyone. Pledge allegiance to critical thinking.
> The war started because of NATO and US
Hmm…
These days everything is live-streamed. So, anyone with an inquiring mind can lookup different sources and make their own conclusions.
But I fear this won't be for long. It is slowly becoming clear that the AI rally is less about productivity and more about mass surveillance and controlling online dissent globally [1].
If Russia was on the right, the people of Ukraine would have just hanged Zelenskyy and his gov, instead of sending their children to the meat grinder.
Let’s see if Venezuelans will put their lives on the line to protect the regime.
Turkey is a great example. Heck Putin also had Wagner knocking his door in Moscow.
Recently there was a terrorist attack on a concert hall in Moscow and about 150 people were killed. The actual attackers were rather simple-minded Tajik people. No way they could plan such an attack themselves. You do realize that there was someone else? "A quiet American"? (Or maybe a British; doesn't matter.) Some timidly looking guy visited that concert hall before that attack, walked around and made notes. He noted, for example, whether the finishing materials were flammable. He did that reconnaissance in several places and finally picked that concert hall. That fellow belongs to a group that does this kind of things. They have something like a list of cases, teaching materials and lectures. You don't see such people in the news; but they surely do exist.
This is how a modern Western invasion looks like.
Cynically it's different in that Trump hopefully will not going to kill 220,000+ and leave 500,000+ war invalids of US military personnel in process. Though you never know...
Cynically: maybe Venezuela will get a bit less sympathy because it's a somewhat shittier (see emigration numbers) and less democratic government than Ukraine's. And I suspect we have a more positive view of US troops than Russian troops, despite everything (Abu Ghraib is seen as an aberration and not as the normal way of working).
As a Ukrainian I would assume US forces don't intend to conduct a campaign of mass murder, rape and looting, and US government overall doesn't plan genocide and erasure of national identity of Venezuela together with annexation of its territories?
I dream that neither of these imperial powers - Russia or the US - will be allowed to inflict imperial violence, but I wouldn't be mistaken and assume that this military action will be any different than, say, JSOC in Iraq.
The conduct of VSRF in Ukraine could perhaps be compared to the US conduct in Vietnam but definitely not in Iraq.
Famously, they didn't have enough Arabic translators, so Delta Force was often taking targets entirely based on reported association. They couldn't target based on language because they couldn't even tell what language locals were speaking most of the time.
You won't get far in your troll farm hierarchy this way.
Right.
Let's see if some american company is granted all kinds of rights to Venezuelan oil in the end.
Which, if it happens, should really be treated as blood oil like blood diamonds are and then sanctioned by the world
So from that perspective, I don't think US is really much different, just better at keeping its own puppets in power.
Hmmmm... indeed, hard to tell the difference!
Do US do/want the same for Venezuela?
We have to wake up to the world where USA no longer cares about ideals like liberal democracy or allies, but is a warmongering corporatist autocracy.