But this is in fact happening every day in the west, with people getting extrajudicially deported to El Salvador, or the ongoing trans and LGBTQ+ genocide [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_genocide

I'm against extrajudicial deportations to El Salvador, but those people are not being deported for their political opinions.

As for trans/LGBTQ+ genocide, it does not exist in the West.

> As for trans/LGBTQ+ genocide, it does not exist in the West.

Feel free to set the record straight and edit the Wikipedia article to correct this fact, or even suggest its deletion.

    United States

    Sue E. Spivey and Christine Robinson have argued that
    the ex-gay movement, which encourages transgender as
    well as other LGBTQ people to renounce their identities,
    advocates social death and therefore could meet some
    legal definitions of genocide. [...]

    Transgender journalist Emily St. James has described
    some US laws as meeting criteria mentioned in the United
    Nations definition of genocide [...]

This seems identical to saying that convincing someone with anorexia that they aren't overweight is "social death", and "social death" is (somehow) genocide.

I.e. it's nonsense.

Hm, what you're saying only makes sense if you believe that being gay or trans is a mental illness comparable to an eating disorder.

i.e. it's nonsense.

Body dysphoria is a recognised mental illness.

That's because they are.

Being gay is not generally recognised as mental illness, although it has been in the past. Being trans is less well defined (historically even being gay was not well defined, or defined the same way).

dysphoria is certainly a mental illness, transitioning is merely one possible treatment for it (though, pushed as one of the first rather than as one of the last options, which I personally find concerning.)

Using the same word “genocide” for what is happening in Gaza and what is happening in the US seems to make language pretty useless.

To say nothing of using the same word as what happened in the holocaust or to the Armenians or native Americans or Rwanda or is happening in Xinjiang....

This is what I have been saying for years. The far-left progressives have literally raped language beyond all recognition.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Men are women.

The obvious difference is that people with anorexia die and people who transition live happily.

Uh, some do.

How is that genocide? No one is being killed, no culture is being erased, no community is being wiped out. People might be persuaded to change their viewpoints but they are not forced to or sent to re-education camps.

Repeatedly denying GAC or banning PrEP as Republicans try to do every few months does indeed lead to death, yes.

Granted we're not under Reagan, but Republicans are practically praying for another AIDS crisis and doing everything in their power to make it happen.

Straight people largely don't know this because, well, it's not their problem.

Calling this genocide is ridiculous levels of hyperbole

This sort of nonsense is why many people do not take LGBT issues very seriously

If there was an LGBT genocide happening in America, there would not be open pride celebrations, come on

Exactly. This is just people acting as "professional victims" at this point and people are fatigued with it. Like the boy who cried wolf.

> Calling this genocide is ridiculous levels of hyperbole.

I mean, it's a systematic and deliberate processes done by our legislature with the goal of killing the most amount of gay and transgender people possible.

That's just what it is. That's not up for debate, so please don't try.

Of course, the people doing the killing-via-policy don't tell you that, because they aren't stupid.

No, theyre denying PrEP coverage for "religious reasons". And, they only think that GAC isn't safe. Doctors, medicine, and studies be damned.

> If there was an LGBT genocide happening in America, there would not be open pride celebrations, come on

I don't think you know what genocide means and I'm getting a bit annoyed at you obviously talking out of your ass.

Where in the rules of genocide does it say the victims need to be quiet? Nowhere, you just made that up.

There were pride celebrations even on the 70s - guess what, that doesn't mean jack fucking shit.

> This sort of nonsense is why many people do not take LGBT issues very seriously

The horse is driving the carriage here buddy.

You don't believe in what I'm telling you BECAUSE you do not take LGBT issues seriously. Not the other way around.

Obviously someone like you, who proudly proclaims to not give a fuck, would not believe a genocide could be happening.

Look, I'm not saying it's the worst genocide or the most extreme or direct, but the reality is the republican party does want gay people dead and they take steps every day to make it happen.

Don't like that? Take it up with your republican representatives, not me. I don't care what does or does not make you comfortable.

This hyperbolic take hurts your causes more than helps them.

So what? Lose your job, lose your housing.

Prison is at least 3 hots and a cot.

Some people value freedom more than comfort.

What freedom?

Anything that can’t be done while in prison, for starters.

so naïve

> Prison is at least 3 hots and a cot.

Decent prison conditions tend to overlap with countries with decent human rights.

IN authoritarian countries you might very well be starved or tortured in prison.

You might also just disappear and your body may or may not be found in an identifiable state.