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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by yachad on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @03:15PM (#45107710)
Even if you live in a western country you do all of that anyway. Self-censor at work and online so I don’t get fired or banned from w/e.

Accept elected officials whose policies don’t match up with popular opinion and accept standard employment hierarchy.

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by Rover222 on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @05:20PM (#45109198)
That's very different than worrying about going to jail for life or getting disappeared.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by ryandv on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @05:55PM (#45109629)
But this is in fact happening every day in the west, with people getting extrajudicially deported to El Salvador, or the ongoing trans and LGBTQ+ genocide [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_genocide

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by hax0ron3 on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @06:14PM (#45109802)
I'm against extrajudicial deportations to El Salvador, but those people are not being deported for their political opinions.

As for trans/LGBTQ+ genocide, it does not exist in the West.

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by ryandv on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @06:16PM (#45109831)
> As for trans/LGBTQ+ genocide, it does not exist in the West.

Feel free to set the record straight and edit the Wikipedia article to correct this fact, or even suggest its deletion.

    United States

    Sue E. Spivey and Christine Robinson have argued that
    the ex-gay movement, which encourages transgender as
    well as other LGBTQ people to renounce their identities,
    advocates social death and therefore could meet some
    legal definitions of genocide. [...]

    Transgender journalist Emily St. James has described
    some US laws as meeting criteria mentioned in the United
    Nations definition of genocide [...]
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by philipallstar on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @07:38PM (#45110525)
This seems identical to saying that convincing someone with anorexia that they aren't overweight is "social death", and "social death" is (somehow) genocide.

I.e. it's nonsense.

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by ethersteeds on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @12:56AM (#45112370)
Hm, what you're saying only makes sense if you believe that being gay or trans is a mental illness comparable to an eating disorder.

i.e. it's nonsense.

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by graemep on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @04:59AM (#45113635)
Body dysphoria is a recognised mental illness.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by account42 on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @05:00AM (#45113649)
That's because they are.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by graemep on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @11:54AM (#45117233)
Being gay is not generally recognised as mental illness, although it has been in the past. Being trans is less well defined (historically even being gay was not well defined, or defined the same way).
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by Akronymus on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @06:12AM (#45114064)
dysphoria is certainly a mental illness, transitioning is merely one possible treatment for it (though, pushed as one of the first rather than as one of the last options, which I personally find concerning.)
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by bombcar on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @07:54AM (#45114682)
Using the same word “genocide” for what is happening in Gaza and what is happening in the US seems to make language pretty useless.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by graemep on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @11:52AM (#45117204)
To say nothing of using the same word as what happened in the holocaust or to the Armenians or native Americans or Rwanda or is happening in Xinjiang....
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by ryandv on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @12:52PM (#45117987)
This is what I have been saying for years. The far-left progressives have literally raped language beyond all recognition.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Men are women.

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by watwut on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @09:13AM (#45115350)
The obvious difference is that people with anorexia die and people who transition live happily.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by boppo1 on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @11:51PM (#45123362)
Uh, some do.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by graemep on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @05:01AM (#45113654)
How is that genocide? No one is being killed, no culture is being erased, no community is being wiped out. People might be persuaded to change their viewpoints but they are not forced to or sent to re-education camps.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by const_cast on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @08:38PM (#45110951)
Repeatedly denying GAC or banning PrEP as Republicans try to do every few months does indeed lead to death, yes.

Granted we're not under Reagan, but Republicans are practically praying for another AIDS crisis and doing everything in their power to make it happen.

Straight people largely don't know this because, well, it's not their problem.

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by bluefirebrand on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @05:53AM (#45113965)
Calling this genocide is ridiculous levels of hyperbole

This sort of nonsense is why many people do not take LGBT issues very seriously

If there was an LGBT genocide happening in America, there would not be open pride celebrations, come on

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by FirmwareBurner on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @06:13AM (#45114070)
Exactly. This is just people acting as "professional victims" at this point and people are fatigued with it. Like the boy who cried wolf.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by const_cast on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @09:15AM (#45115370)
> Calling this genocide is ridiculous levels of hyperbole.

I mean, it's a systematic and deliberate processes done by our legislature with the goal of killing the most amount of gay and transgender people possible.

That's just what it is. That's not up for debate, so please don't try.

Of course, the people doing the killing-via-policy don't tell you that, because they aren't stupid.

No, theyre denying PrEP coverage for "religious reasons". And, they only think that GAC isn't safe. Doctors, medicine, and studies be damned.

> If there was an LGBT genocide happening in America, there would not be open pride celebrations, come on

I don't think you know what genocide means and I'm getting a bit annoyed at you obviously talking out of your ass.

Where in the rules of genocide does it say the victims need to be quiet? Nowhere, you just made that up.

There were pride celebrations even on the 70s - guess what, that doesn't mean jack fucking shit.

> This sort of nonsense is why many people do not take LGBT issues very seriously

The horse is driving the carriage here buddy.

You don't believe in what I'm telling you BECAUSE you do not take LGBT issues seriously. Not the other way around.

Obviously someone like you, who proudly proclaims to not give a fuck, would not believe a genocide could be happening.

Look, I'm not saying it's the worst genocide or the most extreme or direct, but the reality is the republican party does want gay people dead and they take steps every day to make it happen.

Don't like that? Take it up with your republican representatives, not me. I don't care what does or does not make you comfortable.

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by Rover222 on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @11:14AM (#45116778)
This hyperbolic take hurts your causes more than helps them.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by yachad on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @01:14PM (#45118241)
So what? Lose your job, lose your housing.

Prison is at least 3 hots and a cot.

Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by anikom15 on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @05:34PM (#45120650)
Some people value freedom more than comfort.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by yachad on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @10:26PM (#45122821)
What freedom?
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by anikom15 on Thursday September 04, 2025 @08:50PM (#45133906)
Anything that can’t be done while in prison, for starters.
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by Rover222 on Friday September 05, 2025 @02:43PM (#45142103)
so naïve
Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by graemep on Thursday September 04, 2025 @06:00AM (#45125497)
> Prison is at least 3 hots and a cot.

Decent prison conditions tend to overlap with countries with decent human rights.

IN authoritarian countries you might very well be starved or tortured in prison.

You might also just disappear and your body may or may not be found in an identifiable state.