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Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by benterix on Thursday August 21, 2025 @10:58AM (#44973603)
It's a cliche but people really underestimate and try to downplay the role of luck[0].

[0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/beautiful-minds/the-...

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by jauntywundrkind on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:31AM (#44974043)
Luck. And capturing strong network effect.

The ascents of the era all feel like examples of anti-markets, of having gotten yourself into an intermediary position where you control both side's access.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by alecsm on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:19AM (#44973898)
Success happens when luck meets hard work.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by azinman2 on Thursday August 21, 2025 @02:03PM (#44976037)
And timing
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by UltraSane on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:27AM (#44973989)
Every billionaire could have died from childhood cancer.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by marknutter on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:05AM (#44973691)
This is just a cope for people who aren't successful. Most people who are successful have a massive string of failed attempts in their past, but they're good at picking themselves back up and trying again and following through when "luck" finally strikes.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by oa335 on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:09AM (#44973762)
What "massive string of failed attempts" did Zuckerberg or Bezos ever accumulate?
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by gdbsjjdn on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:16AM (#44973854)
They failed to not go to an Ivy League school and failed to have poor parents.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by thebigspacefuck on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:35AM (#44974087)
Alexa, Metaverse, being decent human beings
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by ghurtado on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:48AM (#44974252)
When you are still one of the top 3 richest people in the world after your mistake, that is not a "failure" in the way normal people experience it. That is just passing the time.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by lucianbr on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:23AM (#44973943)
Or Gates or Buffet.

That claim is just patently false.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by Miraste on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:21AM (#44973917)
This might be true for a normal definition of success, but not lottery-winner style success like Facebook. If you look at Microsoft, Netflix, Apple, Amazon, Google, and so on, the founders all have few or zero previous attempts at starting a business. My theory is that this leads them to pursue risky behavior that more experienced leaders wouldn't try, and because they were in the right place at the right time, that earned them the largest rewards.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by technotony on Thursday August 21, 2025 @01:02PM (#44975202)
Not true of Netflix, founder came from PayPal. Apple required founder to leave and learn with a bunch of other companies like Pixar and next.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by michaelt on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:23AM (#44973946)
This is just cope for people with a massive string of failed attempts and no successes.

Daddy's giving you another $50,000 because he loves you, not because he expects your seventh business (blockchain for yoga studio class bookings) is going to go any better than the last six.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by tovej on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:13AM (#44973808)
IMO this strengthens the case for luck. If the probability of winning the lottery is P, then trying N times gives you a probability of 1-(1-P)^N.

Who's more likely to win, someone with one lottery ticket or someone with a hundred?

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by ghurtado on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:43AM (#44974202)
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."

Some will read this and laser in on the "socialism" part, but obviously the interesting bit is the second half of the quote.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by belter on Thursday August 21, 2025 @12:55PM (#44975107)
That phrase explains the US Health Care System
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by code_for_monkey on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:17AM (#44973870)
this is also just cope
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by ericd on Thursday August 21, 2025 @02:24PM (#44976278)
Ability vastly increases your luck surface area. A single poker hand has a lot of luck, and even a game, but over long periods, ability starts to strongly differentiate peoples' results.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by quantified on Thursday August 21, 2025 @03:28PM (#44976993)
Win a monster pot and you can play a lot of more interesting hands.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by whatevertrevor on Thursday August 21, 2025 @04:26PM (#44977641)
Except you can play hundreds of thousands of poker hands in your lifetime, but only have time/energy/money to start a handful of businesses.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by ericd on Friday August 22, 2025 @11:48AM (#44986031)
Sure, but within running a single business, there are a huge number of individual events. Those are the hands.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by whatevertrevor on Friday August 22, 2025 @11:56AM (#44986120)
That's where the analogy starts to fall apart then. Because the variance in those decisions is not very similar, since you're sampling very different underlying distributions. And estimating the priors for a problem like "what is the optimal arrangement of tables to maximize throughput in a cafe" is very different from a problem like "what is the current untapped/potential demand for a boardgaming cafe in this city, and how profitable would that business be".

The main reason why professional poker players are playing the long-game, is because they're consistently playing the same game. Over and over.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by ericd on Friday August 22, 2025 @09:54PM (#44992282)
Heh yes, it's not as controlled, but there are repeated tasks like analysis, communicating, intuiting things, creating things, etc. And the tasks have more variability, but if you're better at these skills, you'll tend to do better. And if you do much better at a lot of them, then you're more likely to succeed than someone working on the same business who isn't very good at them. Starting a business is also a long game with a lot of these subtasks.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by Aurornis on Thursday August 21, 2025 @03:12PM (#44976833)
People also underestimate the value of maximizing opportunities for luck. If we think of luck as random external chance that we can't control, then what can we control? Doing things that increase your exposure to opportunities without spreading yourself too thin is the key. Easier said than done to strike that balance, but getting out there and trying a lot of things is a viable strategy even if only a few of them pay off. The trick is deciding how long to stick with something that doesn't appear to be working out.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by not_the_fda on Thursday August 21, 2025 @04:50PM (#44977905)
Sure helps to be born wealthy, go to private school, and Ivy League college.