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Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by lolinder on Saturday May 10, 2025 @07:32PM (#43949898)
It's not pure security theater, there are a few clear gains for those who care about such things:

* Naive screencaps are much less traceable to the leaker than a naive photo is. Yes, someone can strip out EXIF data, but we've seen over and over again that they generally don't. And even without EXIF a naive framing on the photo is more likely to expose information about the location or identity of the person who took it.

* A photo of a webinar is going to (barring serious postprocessing) look much less official and be less legible than a screenshot, so the use cases for illicit captures are going to be fewer. Few people are going to try to take a phone photo of the top-secret meeting and use the slide in their next team all-hands, but many might forget the rules and than snap a screenshot really quickly for later use.

* Just having the ability to block the easy method of screen captures helps avoid cases where the person doing the capturing isn't actively malicious, just ill-informed. If a normal employee attempts a screenshot and is reminded they're not supposed to do that, they're not going to pull out their phone to take a photo, they're going to say "oops" and move on.

Yeah, there are threat models that won't be stopped here, but most of corporate InfoSec is wrapped up in protecting against pretty lame threat models that would benefit from this—mostly uninformed/ignorant employees screwing up without intending to be a threat.

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by cma on Saturday May 10, 2025 @07:50PM (#43950017)
> Yeah, there are threat models that won't be stopped here

Like running windows in a VM or using an HDMI capture card. And are they going to break running teams meetings when using moonlight etc. with this? If you are OBS capturing during the meeting does it get blacked out or just breaks your recording?

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by lolinder on Saturday May 10, 2025 @07:59PM (#43950043)
You don't need to elaborate on mechanisms for bypassing because you're already imagining a threat actor that is out of scope.

This is primarily about blocking accidental leaks by regular employees who were asked to not record but ignored it. This kind of reuse of content happens all the time in companies of any significant size and isn't entirely stopped by simple requests or watermarks. This tool gives companies one more option to protect against this very lame and boring but also very real threat.

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by preciousoo on Saturday May 10, 2025 @08:48PM (#43950283)
And also gives legal teams more foundation to stand on, bypassing this isn't trivial so it shows real intent
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by userbinator on Sunday May 11, 2025 @12:24AM (#43951358)
"isn't trivial"? When the sibling comment mentions how a lot of employees will by default use a camera when asked for a screenshot?
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by preciousoo on Sunday May 11, 2025 @06:53PM (#43957924)
By "isn't trivial", I mean that takes real effort on the user end to bypass (as they can't simply take screenshots in traditional methods). Bad choice of word on my end
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by guappa on Monday May 12, 2025 @04:45AM (#43960900)
They have absolutely no way to enforce anything of sorts on linux, technically.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by int_19h on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @07:29AM (#43971720)
A typical corporate workspace won't have any employees running Linux on their work machines.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by prmoustache on Friday May 16, 2025 @06:16AM (#44003631)
That is not my experience in the last 10 years.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by crote on Saturday May 10, 2025 @10:01PM (#43950646)
> This is primarily about blocking accidental leaks by regular employees who were asked to not record but ignored it.

I think you're seriously overestimating regular employees. A significant number of people will send you smartphone pictures when you ask for a screenshot - why would they suddenly start looking into on-device screen capture when taking a picture or video of some random presentation?

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by andrekandre on Saturday May 10, 2025 @11:04PM (#43950995)

  > A significant number of people will send you smartphone pictures when you ask for a screenshot
n=1 but this is also my experience at $JOB for a majority of times for me as well
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by lolinder on Saturday May 10, 2025 @11:14PM (#43951047)
I already addressed this possibility in my first comment. Points 1+2.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by chii on Sunday May 11, 2025 @01:20AM (#43951620)
> regular employees who were asked to not record

i think this should not be possible to be asked.

For example, an employee might want to record to cover their own ass (e.g., if being asked to do some morally questional things, which the employee could record then use as protection against the company going back on their word).

Having the ability to _control_ whether an employee can keep records independently of the company only serves to move more control away from the employee.

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by int_19h on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @07:28AM (#43971712)
Trade secrets are a thing. Legal requirements are a thing as well. In some cases (think HIPAA) an employee recording something that they're shown can translate to significant legal liability for both themselves and the company.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by Aurornis on Saturday May 10, 2025 @10:38PM (#43950844)
The easiest one is already mentioned in the article: Someone pulling out their phone and snapping a photo.

People know it’s not perfect. However, raising the bar discourages the spontaneous captures that people might try out of habit.

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by jay_kyburz on Sunday May 11, 2025 @02:48AM (#43951916)
>A photo of a webinar is going to (barring serious postprocessing) look much less official

I don't mean to pile on but, you wouldn't use post processing, you would just take the information out of your screenshots and make a new slide deck if you wanted pass it off as official.

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by MattPalmer1086 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @04:04AM (#43952222)
Good summary. It's best to think of controls like this as guardrails. They are mostly "safety" features rather than hard-core security features. They help honest people to avoid potentially dangerous mistakes.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by cwillu on Sunday May 11, 2025 @05:29AM (#43952561)
Guardrails that break support for devices that aren't owned by the equipment manufacturer, yeah, about that…
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by MattPalmer1086 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @05:50AM (#43952635)
It doesn't do anything of the sort. It will work on PCs, Web, Android and iOS - everything with a supported client.

Not sure what "support" you expect for unsupported clients.

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by i-zu on Sunday May 11, 2025 @06:42AM (#43952858)
Will it though? If I join from Linux using Ferdium or any other browser what will prevent me from using any screenshooter? Or will web be considered an unsupported platform?
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by MattPalmer1086 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @06:59AM (#43952925)
The article says web is supported. Whether that means all browsers or just some, no idea.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by cwillu on Sunday May 11, 2025 @07:27AM (#43953041)
Perhaps a little less snark would be appropriate if you don't know what other people are talking about.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by MattPalmer1086 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @07:38AM (#43953093)
Apologies if I came across snarky, not my intention.

It's definitely not true that this feature breaks support for devices not owned by the manufacturer. The follow on question about whether all possible web clients / operating systems would be supported, I don't know. The article just says that web is supported.

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by cwillu on Monday May 12, 2025 @01:24AM (#43959881)
This isn't “we haven't tested your browser, if it breaks, that's on you”, this is “we don't specifically Trust™ the environment you're running your browser in, therefore fuck you.”

“Web is supported” in this instance just means “the web, but only when mediated by google, microsoft or apple”, which is not the web as far as I'm concerned.

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by MattPalmer1086 on Monday May 12, 2025 @03:03AM (#43960339)
Hmmmm, I use Firefox on Linux to access Teams currently. Guess we'll see if that breaks.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by olyjohn on Monday May 12, 2025 @05:13PM (#43967518)
Of course it's going to break. Remember when they built an actual Teams client for Linux? Remember how much Microsoft <3 Linux? Yeah, you're fucked buddy.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by MattPalmer1086 on Monday May 12, 2025 @06:33PM (#43968072)
Oh well, I'll use something else then. Not worth getting upset about really.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by cwillu on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @01:09AM (#43969779)
Nothing that doesn't require a chain of Trust™ to the operating system will work, which is the point at which I start to get upset.
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by Seb-C on Sunday May 11, 2025 @11:19PM (#43959337)
> They help honest people to avoid potentially dangerous mistakes.

They also can prevent honest people from gathering proofs to cover or defend themselves: abusive boss, illegal requests, harassment...

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by MattPalmer1086 on Monday May 12, 2025 @03:08AM (#43960359)
You can always use your phone to record it if there's some overriding reason to break the confidentiality protection. Or have a witness be present during a call (maybe out of sight).
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by bmicraft on Sunday May 11, 2025 @06:57AM (#43952915)
What's the endgame here? Mandatory HDCP monitors for meetings? HDCP for absolutely every application?
Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by rsync on Sunday May 11, 2025 @01:28PM (#43955327)
"Yes, someone can strip out EXIF data, but we've seen over and over again that they generally don't. And even without EXIF a naive framing on the photo is more likely to expose information about the location or identity of the person who took it."

  for f in `ls -1 /pics/IMG_*.jpg|/usr/bin/xargs basename` ; do /usr/local/bin/magick convert $f -strip -quality 8$rand -shave 1$randx1$rand2 -resize 9$rand2% -attenuate 1.0 +noise Uniform out_$f && /usr/local/bin/exiftool -overwrite_original -all= out_$f && rm -rf $f ; done
So ... not just stripping the exif/meta data but also dropping the quality to 8[0-9]%, shaving a random number of pixels from the border, resizing by 9[0-9]% and adding some noise to the image.

Perhaps someone will find this useful ...

Re:Microsoft Teams will soon block screen capture during mee... by cyanydeez on Sunday May 11, 2025 @05:10PM (#43957190)
not the people being referenced. You are the 1%.