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Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by casenmgreen on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:41AM (#43099981)
We need an "unflag". This is too important for State-run troll farms to suppress.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by somenameforme on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:52AM (#43100052)
I enjoy discussing politics, but flagged this because the title is so absurdly far beyond sensationalized and links to a friggin Reddit post which then amps the hyperbole up even further. It's not going to be conducive to interesting or informative discussion for anybody, and seems mostly intended to mislead.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by casenmgreen on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:01AM (#43100113)
Donald has direct control of entire Federal Gov, controls their budgets, has installed his men in every agency, and will now decide interpretation of law.

Congress and Senate both wholly passive (subverted, I would say).

That leaves the States and the courts. I think the courts will go next.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by zozbot234 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:35AM (#43100326)
Donald may have direct control of the entire Executive branch, but guess what, that's pretty much what the Constitution says. Where exactly is the "dictatorship" here?
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by scarab92 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:42AM (#43100364)
Progressives abuse words.

They don’t care about the real meaning of Nazi, fascist, coup, dictatorship.

If they think it’s a useful slur, they’ll employ it as a weapon, with only the most specious justification.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by piva00 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:32AM (#43100640)
Here is a quote for you:

> Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Don't be on the wrong side of history.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by DiogenesKynikos on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:54AM (#43100425)
The Constitution does not say that at all.

The Constitution gives Congress a great deal of oversight over how the executive branch is run. The President is supposed to execute the laws that Congress passes, spend the money that Congress appropriates in the way that Congress says it should be spent, etc. The President can't even appoint his own officials without the Senate's approval.

Beyond the Constitution, there is a long tradition of independent agencies running according to certain laws and principles that are laid out to them. The President is not supposed to directly order the people at these agencies what to do. Think the Department of Justice: you don't want the President ordering prosecutions. You want those decisions to be impartial. Trump just crossed a massive red line in dropping the prosecution of Eric Adams, and he did so purely in order to gain political leverage over Adams. Now, the NY mayor has to do what Trump says, or else Trump can order the DOJ to start prosecuting him again.

Trump has now openly declared on social media that he does not have to even follow the law, because he's "saving the country." He's trying to establish an elective dictatorship. Americans vote every 4 years, and whoever wins runs the entire government however they want, regardless of what the courts or Congress say.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by zozbot234 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:18AM (#43100556)
> The President is not supposed to directly order the people at these agencies what to do.

The Constitution disagrees with you, since it expressly directs the President to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed". It's literally not possible to "take care" of this without issuing orders to that effect.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by DiogenesKynikos on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @06:59AM (#43101129)
The clause that you cited does not in any way contradict what I said.

"Independent" agencies are supposed to function with a high level of autonomy. The president does not have to give individual orders to underlings at the DOJ in order to ensure that Congress' wishes are faithfully executed.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by zimpenfish on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:11AM (#43100510)
> dropping the prosecution of Eric Adams

But "without prejudice" which is how they have the hold over him (because they can refile any time he's not doing their bidding). If it was truly dropped, they'd have no leverage.

> "The order is for all charges against Adams to be dismissed, and the dismissal is without prejudice, the official said, meaning charges could be refiled in the future."

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by on_the_train on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:21AM (#43100574)
So like it is all the time, just this time it's a guy you don't like
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by latexr on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:47AM (#43100020)
> We need an "unflag".

There is one, it’s called “vouch”. If this was flagged, it’s not anymore.

Edit: Spoke too soon, it’s flagged again.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by casenmgreen on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @12:30PM (#43104779)
Ah, I'm too humble an account to have ever been presented with this option. I did not know it exists.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by blueflow on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:49AM (#43100032)
I'm not a state-run troll farm, the last 10 years have trained me and probably anyone else to vote away anything related to US politics.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by casenmgreen on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:56AM (#43100082)
I may be wrong, but it might be time now not to do so.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by blueflow on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:32AM (#43100311)
Dunno. If its still name-calling and shit-flinging, then i don't really want it, even now. I don't see how a democracy could work if its the cultural norm to vilify people one disagrees with.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by abc123abc123 on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:07AM (#43100491)
Whoa... hold on there cowboy! You are waaaay too mature to be allowed participation in contemporary political debates. ;)
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by userbinator on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:47AM (#43100019)
Keep the politics off HN. There's already enough of it everywhere else on the Internet.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by blooalien on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:03AM (#43100118)
This is sadly one of the last few places online where rational discussion of the topic by at least some mostly smart people is at all likely to happen. It's also one of the last few places where discussion will get pretty instantly shut down if it devolves into chaos, so let's all at least try our level best to keep those discussions either productive or interesting.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by casenmgreen on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:48AM (#43100025)
There comes a point where it has to be faced, because to hide it is to lose everything.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by defrost on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:59AM (#43100097)
That point comes to HN at least once an hour since the start of 2025.

For a site primarily intended to be about computer tech, the funding and business of tech startups, with explicit guidelines suggesting to reject US politics there are still large numbers of active threads on US politics, DOGE, Musk, et al daily.

.. and that's after 9x decimation.

So, throttled back to allow room for other submissions is largely what happens here, "hidden" is a tad hyperbolic.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by latexr on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:08AM (#43100152)
In fairness, the US tech industry made it extremely hard to discuss them without discussing politics too, since they’re getting themselves more and more involved in policy.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by defrost on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:17AM (#43100212)
Active threads in the past seven days re: just DOGE in title: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastWeek&page=0&prefix=fal...

many with more than 100 points, some with > 1000 points and >1000 comments.

[flagged] just pushes them off of the front page, they're still highly active and [showdead] can show you the comments being killed - largely they're hyper-partisan (either side), full nazi, crazy kill the rich, etc. Not many polite reasoned comments being killed regardless of stance.

I'm Australian BTW - it's all a sideshow to me, aside from the crazy tariffs and nuclear threat parts, etc.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by latexr on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @04:25AM (#43100271)
> it's all a sideshow to me, aside from the crazy tariffs and nuclear threat parts, etc.

So it’s all a sideshow to you, apart from the threats to your life and way of living? Those seem kind of important to wave off.

I’m also not American, but I have no illusions that what happens there won’t have consequences for the rest of the world.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by defrost on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:22AM (#43100581)
> the threats to your life and way of living?

minor at best given my age, location, and general setup.

I was probably in more danger in Rajasthan on 11 May 1998 when India suprise detonated three nukes within our visual horizon and impounded our aircraft on landing.

Risk is relative.

My father is down the hall watching TV ATM, he was born in 1935 and caught rabbits and such to feed his younger borothers and sisters when his father went off to WWII, Singapore fell amd trade in and out of the state ceased for a few years.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by latexr on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @06:45AM (#43101054)
Don’t you think that’s selfish? I don’t live in most countries of the world (obviously) but I can still empathise with fellow human beings struggling elsewhere in this globalised planet. I don’t believe other problems are unimportant because they don’t directly apply to me.

Considering all the environmental protections being rolled back, you and your family will be affected sooner than you think.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by defrost on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @07:29AM (#43101332)
> Don’t you think that’s selfish?

What, specifically?

> but I can still empathise with fellow human beings struggling elsewhere in this globalised planet.

Good for you. What makes you think I can't?

> Considering all the environmental protections being rolled back

in the US?

> you and your family will be affected sooner than you think.

You're a few generations late to the game for that now.

Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by dandanua on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:58AM (#43100092)
Keep looking the other way the world is burning down. Great policy!
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Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by dandanua on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @05:26AM (#43100600)
I guess your own "echo chamber" is glad to see what's happening. Well, you do you.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by oluminate on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:50AM (#43100038)
Considering that Silicon Valley exists within the US, it's significant that the US has turned into a dictatorship — the implications are beyond political on this one.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by DiogenesKynikos on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:56AM (#43100083)
Considering that Silicon Valley is Donald Trump's #1 backer...
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by bananapub on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:59AM (#43100095)
the associates - if not owners - of this very site are involved in a coup, "keep politics off HN" isn't some neutral statement, it's an endorsement.
Re:A few hours ago, the US has turned into a de-facto dictat... by abrookewood on Wednesday February 19, 2025 @03:54AM (#43100069)
Sorry, what does that mean??