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Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by scbrg on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:53AM (#42058217)
For someone who doesn't follow US politics that closely (yes, we exist), in what way has he made it clear that he wants to dismantle democratic institutions? Any concrete examples?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bagels on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:57AM (#42058259)
He tried to lead an insurrection four years ago. Has stated that if elected, you won't have to vote again. Has called for removal of broadcast licenses for the press. Has said he'd be pleased if the press were murdered.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by innocentoldguy on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:19AM (#42058479)
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bagels on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:39AM (#42058706)
That is a narrow finding.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by manquer on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:31AM (#42058616)
> Trump-hating FBI disagrees

I think citation needed here that FBI or any law enforcement agency for that matter is anti-trump.

If anything given their deep racial history not that long ago, I would characterize them as very pro trump.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by innocentoldguy on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:58AM (#42058983)
Schmidt, M. S. (2018, June 14). Top Agent Said F.B.I. Would Stop Trump From Becoming President. The New York Times.

Also, whistleblowers within the FBI have come forward in recent years to:

• Accuse Timothy Thibault of running cover on Hunter Biden's laptop.

• Accuse the FBI of manipulating case files to inflate the domestic threat perception towards conservatives.

• Accuse leaders within the FBI of "weaponizing" the agency against conservatives.

• Complain about retaliation when raising concerns about these and other instances of bias and misconduct.

Isn't this common knowledge?

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by drusepth on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:39AM (#42058714)
What makes you think the FBI hates Trump?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by cpursley on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:23AM (#42058534)
This is exactly what Elon was talking about how so many people still believe the multitude of hoaxes which have been thoroughly and objectively disproved. It’s as if people were OK with just going with the original drive-by media headline and never looking into the details or following up.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bagels on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:33AM (#42058636)
None of these are hoaxes. Did you look in to the fake elector plot, which people have pled guilty to?

I think a lot of people give Trump benefit of doubt when he says these things, but he literally said them.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by Paradigma11 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:03AM (#42060803)
So explain to me how it would have played out if Pence would have gone along with the fake elector plot?

Aside from Trump not many people deny Biden won 2020. How would Biden have become president?

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by huhkerrf on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @09:25AM (#42062730)
I hate when people make me defend Trump.

The "you won't have to vote again" was clearly him saying that he didn't care if the people vote again, because it won't benefit him.

He didn't say that he'd be pleased if the press was murdered, in those words. Though I agree that what he said was awful.

This is the thing about Trump. He says things that are dumb or incendiary, then his opponents make it sound 100x. Then people who aren't terminally online see it and think, "is that all there is?" and it makes them think that he's not that bad, ignoring the actual bad things he's saying.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bagels on Thursday November 07, 2024 @01:23AM (#42073976)
These are actual bad things to say, but yes, there are worse that he's said.

I agree that he says incendiary things, but he is also a poor communicator and so he says provocative things that are left ambiguous.

"I love you Christians. I'm a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again, we'll have it fixed so good you're not going to have to vote,".

What does he mean by "have it fixed"? Have the elections fixed? It's hard to imagine what else he can fix so that people won't have to vote anymore.

“I have this piece of glass here,” Trump said. “But all we have really over here is the fake news, right? And to get me, somebody would have to shoot through the fake news. And I don’t mind that so much,” Trump said. “I don’t mind. I don’t mind.”

Yes, he didn't literally say "pleased" he said "I don't mind". Barely a difference when discussing the finer points of whether someone should murder the press.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by richard___ on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @11:33AM (#42185305)
It’s hard to imagine? He obviously means fix the government. You are seriously sounding deranged
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by kernal on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @12:22PM (#42065676)
>He tried to lead an insurrection four years ago. Has stated that if elected, you won't have to vote again. Has called for removal of broadcast licenses for the press. Has said he'd be pleased if the press were murdered.

The rhetoric and lies you've repeatedly said about Trump is exactly the reason your party was so soundly rejected in the landslide electoral college, the popular vote, the senate, and the house. Your lies and hoaxes don't work anymore.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bagels on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:19PM (#42070394)
It's not my party, I just think Trump is uniquely unqualified for office.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bagels on Thursday November 07, 2024 @01:11AM (#42073904)
I don't think I've lied about anything.

“The central cause of January 6th was one man, former President Donald Trump, who many others followed,” reads the report. “None of the events of January 6th would have happened without him.” ... lying about having evidence of voter fraud to the public, repeatedly, then inviting supporters to the ellipse with "Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!", telling the crowd that they need to "fight like hell" otherwise they were "not going to have a country anymore" (yes, the refrain of his apologists is that he also the word peacefully, but that was an outlier in the hours of speeches given that day), and inviting the crowd to march to the capitol with him (though he stayed at the White House), followed by a complete dereliction of duty to intervene, and more tellingly, instead calling senators. There's a lot more.

"I love you Christians. I'm a Christian. I love you, get out, you gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again, we'll have it fixed so good you're not going to have to vote,". Like many things he says, he is really unclear on exactly what he means, but he did literally say "you don't have to vote again".

“I have this piece of glass here,” Trump said. “But all we have really over here is the fake news, right? And to get me, somebody would have to shoot through the fake news. And I don’t mind that so much,” Trump said. “I don’t mind. I don’t mind.”

"60 Minutes should be immediately taken off the air [for] election interference. CBS should lose its license. This is the biggest scandal in broadcast history,”

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by EdwardDiego on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:55AM (#42058233)
Can the President commit crimes with impunity is pretty anti-democratic.

Unless you think Robert Mugabe was democratic?

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by mbg721 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:58AM (#42058268)
Can you articulate the crimes exactly? It looked to me like one party tried to use the justice system against a political opponent. And that party was not Trump's.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bagels on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:13AM (#42058417)
Those are only the crimes that have been committed and charged so far. Asking for and being granted immunity, retroactively, is pretty undemocratic. There are more crimes in their way.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by sumo89 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:10AM (#42058379)
Are you forgetting the whole removing classified documents and storing them in your club house thing?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by mbg721 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:17AM (#42058460)
You mean his sports car?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by junon on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:10AM (#42058386)
You mean the valid prosecution of crimes Trump committed, for which he was tried and convicted?
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by Tainnor on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:02AM (#42058299)
In 2020, he told his then vice president Mike Pence not to certify the electoral vote count which gave Joe Biden the victory in the presidential race. Pence ignored this order. Had he not done so, it would have meant a constitutional crisis at the very least.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bdcp on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:08AM (#42058372)
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by thefounder on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:58AM (#42058266)
He could try to do something like Putin and extend the limit of 2 terms (just to keep America Great a bit more)and later declare himself dictator for life like Xi Jinping. You could look at Hitler as example how to become absolute dictator. “ news is that at the end of 6 years, after America has been made GREAT again and I leave the beautiful White House (do you think the people would demand that I stay longer? KEEP AMERICA GREAT), both of these horrible papers will quickly go out of business & be forever gone!

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https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1140252528304631808

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by TrackerFF on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:26AM (#42058558)
On the positive side, Americans are nowhere near as politically apathetic as Russians are, nor have they grown up under a single-party rule their whole loves, as the Chinese have.

Not saying that this won't stop MAGA from trying - but at least there's a cultural element to this, that will stop the American people from just folding over and accepting dictatorship.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by 50208 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:39AM (#42058709)
And they'll do ... what? Keep watching football, scroll their phones? Pick up a burrito at Chipotle? The new Russian model of disaffection can (and is) working just fine in the US.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by nmeagent on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @05:54AM (#42059860)
They'll write several angry comments to social media, then retire to the couch after a job well done.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by machiaweliczny on Thursday November 07, 2024 @05:04AM (#42075289)
There’s a reason that US has gun rights in constitution and it’s dems that want to take it away.

It’s interesting tradeoff that should in theory protect from tyranny.

It’s interesting what would happen in Russia if majority of population had guns.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bloomingkales on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:58AM (#42058261)
None really. He’s pissed about his court cases and wants to investigate or appoint new judges. People that believe in the dictator narrative don’t appreciate the limits of the Executive branch.

Every executive order can get erased wholesale by the next President, and Trump only has 4 years.

We’ll live.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bagels on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:01AM (#42058288)
That's best case scenario. He's a criminal with newly granted immunity. It's going to be worse than last time.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by bloomingkales on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:11AM (#42058400)
I don’t know, I guess? If you want to, you can hold just about any president under some criminal wrong doing. For whatever reason (certainly not political) we really needed to go after his overvaluing of real estate, and asking for recounts in a close election (why would he ever think a recount is worth it, it’s not like he could win the popular vote and all swing states). In retrospect, one could actually now make the argument that his hunch was right in questioning such a narrow election with an unprecedented voting pattern (Covid era mail in, it was quite new). I do sit here in awe and find myself saying “hmm, maybe he did have 25,000 votes somewhere this whole time, sure as hell found them tonight”. Makes you wonder.

He’s gonna do his tit for tat because he’s a simple man, not a great one, and certainly not an epic dictator.

I’m not defending him, I just think the grand dictator spin has always been nutty.

Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by selimthegrim on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @03:59AM (#42058275)
Kindly review the new definition of “official acts”
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by dragonwriter on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:23AM (#42058530)
What he has actually been mroe explicit about wanting to dismantle (and what his faction has made considerable progress dismantling in his favor already) is not as much “democratic institutions” as “the rule of law”, though his most dramatic failed attempt to dismantle that was also directed at democratic institutions (the set of schemes including the false electors gambit, attempte to get the VP to reject proper electoral votes, and instigating the mob attack on the capitol when it was clear the VP would not do so.)
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by 50208 on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @04:37AM (#42058681)
SCBRG ... you should seriously be ashamed of yourself.
Re:Former President Trump is projected to win the presidency by LunaSea on Wednesday November 06, 2024 @07:51AM (#42061473)
Being a traitor working for Russia might be one of them