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Re:Panic at the Job Market by voiceblue on Thursday July 18, 2024 @02:08AM (#40992912)
As a Xoogler, I have to say Google isn’t what it once was. You pay for your high salary with the fact that the one thing you can be sure most people you work with care about is how much money they extract out of Google and how they could get more.

Taking care of toddlers is ostensibly a better use of the one life you get.

Re:Panic at the Job Market by crossroadsguy on Thursday July 18, 2024 @03:50AM (#40993437)
Nope; not with the abysmal pay. Or actually not unless it's my toddler. I mean it; respectfully.

(Longer PS. Teachers taking care of toddlers usually have a miserable time doing that and most of them are not there by choice in case you were wondered about that. While they are there they take care of them not out of some love or fulfilment but because that is required of them as part of their roles. That's it. It's a job for them, like yours is a job for you.)

Re:Panic at the Job Market by twelve40 on Thursday July 18, 2024 @02:47AM (#40993086)
> Taking care of toddlers is ostensibly a better use of the one life you get.

sounds like an extremely subjective assertion. Unless you have a well-off partner/family, it's possible and maybe not even uncommon to be very miserable taking care of toddlers and maxing out around minimum wage for life.

Re:Panic at the Job Market by mantas on Thursday July 18, 2024 @04:23AM (#40993579)
He probably tried to say that taking care of toddlers is a bigger positive impact on society than writing some crappy code that will be discarded a year later.

Yes, some software is important to the world and makes it a much better place. Vast majority of the code does not make such impact though. And then there's plenty of code that makes the world a worse place (insert your favourite evil company here).

Re:Panic at the Job Market by anacrolix on Thursday July 18, 2024 @09:15AM (#40995278)
It has to be used at all first. Even that's a hurdle.
Re:Panic at the Job Market by Etheryte on Thursday July 18, 2024 @06:56AM (#40994388)
You know that feeling you get when you see a screaming toddler board a plane? Now imagine that's your work, times a dozen, eight hours a day, every day.
Re:Panic at the Job Market by stogot on Thursday July 18, 2024 @09:13AM (#40995268)
I’m thankful for those people and they should be appreciated, awarded, and compensated more. We need more people able to handle stress in this world
Re:Panic at the Job Market by boringg on Thursday July 18, 2024 @09:32AM (#40995423)
No that's not what its like. Thats maybe the first week on introducing the kids to the new caregiving situation. Once thats cleared its a lot more manageable.

I'm not saying its easy I'm just saying it isn't what you described.

Re:Panic at the Job Market by jjulius on Thursday July 18, 2024 @11:54AM (#40996888)
Right - I'm a parent, and I have kids in daycare, and it's not at all like "a screaming toddler boarding a plane ... times a dozen, eight hours a day, every day". There are moments like that, just like there are moments of incredible frustration in any job, but it's not 24/7.

Kids, more often than not, do a very good job of reasonably listening to their caregivers. It's when they get home and are in their safe space around their parents that they feel more free to act like little hellions, for lack of a better phrase (and I sure love my little hellions, lol). That's not an absolute, sure, but it's a lot more representative of the reality of daycares than "it's constantly screaming toddlers boarding planes".

Re:Panic at the Job Market by ivandenysov on Thursday July 18, 2024 @11:45AM (#40996784)
I sometimes also want to scream after going through passport control and security check. That doesn’t mean I would scream the whole time if a nice lady took care of me and 29 other grown up people
Re:Panic at the Job Market by paulcole on Thursday July 18, 2024 @07:57AM (#40994765)
> You pay for your high salary with the fact that the one thing you can be sure most people you work with care about is how much money they extract out of Google and how they could get more.

Dang, must be rough. I know somebody who only pays for their high salary with long hours and hard work.

Re:Panic at the Job Market by strikelaserclaw on Thursday July 18, 2024 @10:26AM (#40995864)
i mean you are a small cog in a giant machine, what else can you expect?
Re:Panic at the Job Market by away271828 on Thursday July 18, 2024 @10:32AM (#40995931)
Probably not uncommon. My final year at my last employer post re-organization and other changes was cold-hearted money extraction for (generously) part-time work. I was sort of disappointed I didn't get a package when they laid a fair number of people I worked with off. But I took a hard look at my vacation balances, upcoming holidays, RSU vesting, etc. and decided to coast for about the next year which, as it turned out, was just about the point it would have been difficult to continue on with no real job not that I would have wanted to.
Re:Panic at the Job Market by synicalx on Thursday July 18, 2024 @08:48PM (#41001130)
> You pay for your high salary with the fact that the one thing you can be sure most people you work with care about is how much money they extract out of Google and how they could get more.

That's every job though, right? I only work because my employer pays me and either them or someone else will probably pay me more in the future. I'm not here because I just LOVE writing code for someone else, I'm here because I like money and want lots of it.