Gemini Ultra Released

Re:Gemini Ultra Released by kevinventullo on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:38AM (#39303165)

Maybe not quite the same, but I will point out that “Apple TV” and “Apple TV+” are not just two distinct products, but are in fact entirely different categories of product.

One is a piece of hardware akin to a Roku. The other is a streaming service akin to Netflix.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by lobsterthief on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:44AM (#39303251)

Apple TV is also an iOS app, macOS app, tvOS app, and [other generic TV OS] app which allows you to access Apple TV+ content if you have a subscription, but otherwise lets you access services connected to your Apple TV [hardware].

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by electroly on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:57AM (#39303456)

If you ever take a customer survey for Apple, for the "which Apple products do you use?" question they always have to write something like "Apple TV (a streaming box that plugs into your TV)" and "Apple TV+ (an online streaming service)" because they know the names are so confusing.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by hbn on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:47AM (#39303306)

Actually it's more that Apple TV is both a piece of hardware and an iTunes-like service, while Apple TV+ is a subscription service akin to Netflix.

The Apple TV hardware and the Apple TV app on your iDevice can both be used without paying a subscription. The hardware has all other streaming apps a la Roku, and both it and the app on your iPhone can be used to purchase and watch TV shows and movies.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by s3p on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:24AM (#39303874)

Hello, would you like to watch Apple TV+ or Apple TV Channels on your Apple TV app on your Apple TV?

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by ra7 on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:42AM (#39303227)

I use both and I haven’t found it too confusing, to be honest. I just think of it as Apple TV (streaming device) gives access to Apple TV+ (streaming service).

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by geodel on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:58AM (#39304331)

It would just mean there are somethings you found confusing but others don't and vice versa. But you come swinging like you have done survey of Fortune 500 companies and Google stood out in naming confusion.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by ra7 on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:06PM (#39304454)

I don't have to survey Fortune 500 when things are plainly obvious.

Hangouts, Allo, Duo, Buzz, Google Talk, GChat, Inbox, Messenger, Messages, Bard, Gemini, etc. Who else has a track record of chopping and changing like this?

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by relativ575 on Thursday February 08, 2024 @04:07PM (#39307706)

> things are plainly obvious.

To you. You are projecting.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by ra7 on Thursday February 08, 2024 @04:14PM (#39307803)

I guess there are people for whom Google’s constant changes do make sense. One has to simply keep up with their frequent announcements!

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by iopq on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:54AM (#39304288)

https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-app/

Apple TV (app) gives access to Apple TV+ (streaming service)

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by tavavex on Thursday February 08, 2024 @01:18PM (#39305484)

Apple TV is mostly associated with the hardware streaming boxes they've been releasing for a long time, Apple TV the app is just an app that performs a similar task on non-TVs. TV+ is available on both of them. Still, there's a bit of confusion around the naming.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by travisgriggs on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:53AM (#39303390)

In my mind:

- AppleTV - the all things tv stuff from Apple that I pay once for

- AppleTV+ - all things tv stuff from Apple that I have to pay every month for

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by azinman2 on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:37AM (#39304074)

Interesting framing!

I guess the + is like the + sign on a calculator ;)

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by lupire on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:52AM (#39303378)

Thanks to Disney, "+" is the industry term for "Streaming"

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by sofixa on Thursday February 08, 2024 @10:56AM (#39303431)

One company using it doesn't make it the "industry" term. It was the copycats that followed like Apple and Paramount that made it into an industry term. It kind of makes sense for Paramount, but really doesn't for Apple. Par for the course for Apple TV+, barely baked content on a barely baked poorly named service.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by jpadkins on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:04PM (#39304421)

Disney+ Paramount+ AppleTV+ Discovery+ in addition to to 4 or 5 more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_streaming_media_servic...

It's an industry term now.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by BrazeBeefNoodle on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:10AM (#39303647)

Odd, I’m not a huge fan of many things Apple is doing these days, but I’ve consistently found their homegrown content to be very high quality.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by sofixa on Thursday February 08, 2024 @03:26PM (#39307215)

I've watched 3 shows on Apple TV+ - Extrapolations, The Morning Show, and Ted Lasso. All of them start very promisingly (as in, the premise is good, the initial setup of actors/sets/etc. is promising, there is lots of potential ways it could go) but they're all superficial, get very predictable, and then the quality steeply goes downhill after a point. All three could have been way better, and had vastly more promise than what they delivered. It was enough to make me cancel the service.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by als0 on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:12AM (#39303674)

I didn't think Apple copied anyone. Pretty much all their subscriptions have had plus like iCloud+ and Fitness+.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by ceejayoz on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:44PM (#39305009)

That was them copycatting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney%2B "Disney+ was launched on November 12, 2019"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICloud "In June 2021, Apple introduced iCloud+..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_(Apple) "Apple Fitness+ is an ad-free video on demand guided workout streaming service announced during Apple's September 2020 Special Event"

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by rafark on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:58PM (#39305194)

Apple has been using + way before Disney. Apple care+, iPhone 6 Plus and I’m pretty sure they had another plus product or service in the 2000s or earlier that I’m forgetting right now. Edit: it was the Mac plus from 1986.

I’ve always associated “plus” with Apple, not with Disney.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by lupire on Friday February 09, 2024 @11:51AM (#39316953)

"Plus" has always meant "bigger" or "more".

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by lupire on Friday February 09, 2024 @11:48AM (#39316903)

Copycats did it... thanks to Disney.

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by chimeracoder on Thursday February 08, 2024 @11:14AM (#39303713)

> Thanks to Disney, "+" is the industry term for "Streaming"

Google+ was too far ahead of its time!

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Re:Gemini Ultra Released by rvnx on Thursday February 08, 2024 @12:53PM (#39305127)

Isn't it closed ?

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