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Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by frozenport on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @01:26AM (#39010090)
Does the toaster on Amazon have these? If not they are extra.
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by floren on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @01:53AM (#39010230)
When too many OOOOLOOO brand toasters start fires, they just close their Amazon profile and create a new one selling FOLGARP brand toasters.

You can't have quite that level of untouchability as a US manufacturer, so you have to do it right.

Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by Hackbraten on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:07AM (#39010721)
I bought this product for my husband and he loves it!
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by fersarr on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @04:52AM (#39011460)
:D
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by layer8 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @02:38PM (#39017961)
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by throwup238 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @02:07AM (#39010309)
FOLGARP is the best. Three out of four of the couples I gifted those toasters are now deceased and will never demand a gift from me ever again. The fire investigators just call it an “act of god.”

Unfortunately the fourth only burned their house down and now we have to tolerate an insufferable GoFundMe campaign because their CA fire insurance only covers gender reveal parties. Bezos ruins everything.

Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by M_bara on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @02:42AM (#39010553)
Yeah, these fr*cking toasters are out to get humans. Ask colonel Saul
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by DanHulton on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @04:21AM (#39011225)
I did, but he just keeps trying to cut the corners off all my paper.
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by monkeycantype on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @05:07AM (#39011545)
I really like this comment, and am now trawling DanHulton.com for more
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by martypitt on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @07:59AM (#39012791)
I went hunting on DanHulton.com for some more gold. I was fascinated by the "I Paid The Most" site, and was disappointed it wasn't a real thing (anymore).

@DanHulton - tell us all the tale.

Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by DanHulton on Tuesday January 23, 2024 @04:35PM (#39110226)
Not sure what you mean by not a real thing anymore - it's still up at https://ipaidthemost.com/

Do I have a broken link somewhere?

Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by darkwater on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @05:47AM (#39011810)
So say we all!
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by benj111 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @04:52AM (#39011459)
Is FOLGARP an IKEA thing?
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by nmeofthestate on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @07:14AM (#39012446)
You're thinking of FÖLGARP
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by dekhn on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @02:50PM (#39018147)
this thread is now the #1 hit on Google for 'FOLGARP'
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by coolspot on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @03:23PM (#39032926)
Soon to be #1 for “toasters made in USA”.
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by iancmceachern on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:06AM (#39010716)
Yes, they do. You can see the "UL" mark on the product label
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by unsupp0rted on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:21AM (#39010798)
Well I’m convinced
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by iancmceachern on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:40AM (#39010916)
They were counterfeiting the labels on some products so they started requiring holographic labels on some kinds of products, like Christmas lights
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by alpaca128 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @03:52AM (#39011014)
Are you sure it's the original label and not a fake?

Just recently a German tech channel reviewed a "gaming PC" sold on Amazon. The power supply had a fake CE label (aka it's illegal to sell in the EU) and the graphics card was a used Chinese crypto mining card that caught fire before they were done testing.

Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by actionfromafar on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @04:17AM (#39011197)
I don't think it was in earnest. The label could definitely be fake.

CE - labels are a mess. First of all, you can self-certify. So the label may be correct but the certification shady. Then you can of course just slap on a CE label on something which isn't even certified.

To add insult to injury, China made a virtually indistinguishable CE label which means "China Export". Thanks, China.

Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by stef25 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @05:24AM (#39011659)
You know there's another CE mark which stands for "China Export" right ? It just means it was manufactured in China and pretty much indistinguishable from Europe's CE mark.
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by scq on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @05:37AM (#39011737)
That's a myth. There is no such marking as "China Export".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#%22China_Export%22

Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by stef25 on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @10:53AM (#39014724)
wow ok, I stand corrected!
Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by terom on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @08:31AM (#39013053)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/S6sFaEUxY89Tgxn56 here's an example of the safety/certification markings from a 24V power supply sold in the EU.

Take a close look at the TÜV/GS logo and font. I seriously doubt the UL file number E131992 exists. The Safety Mark 021068-00 code is for a Samsung AC Adapter [1], which this is not. You can see some of the same details in the AliExpress listings.

[1] https://www.go.gov.sg/safety-mark

Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by iancmceachern on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @10:48AM (#39014654)
This is called counterfeiting.

It's the same thing for Rolex's at the Eiffel Tower. Does that make the eiffel tower, or real eatches any different?

Breaking news. This just in! China is manufacturing counterfeiting products

Re:Ask HN: Should I try to manufacture toasters? by astrodust on Tuesday January 16, 2024 @09:50AM (#39013847)
The toaster on Amazon Basics will be a remarkable replica of your toaster if it's truly successful!