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Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by charliebwrites on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:49PM (#38930177)
So what do we do about them?

Is there any way to remove microplastics from a person/animal once already ingested?

What technology if any is being worked on to help alleviate this?

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by epistasis on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:51PM (#38930216)
Stop driving? Most microplastic in water come from tires.

I've been trying to make small moves away from car infrastructure in my town and the response is, well, less than positive.

We already tacitly accept that cars are one of the biggest causes of death. Reducing car infrastructure to reduce microplastics, where we don't even really know the harm, seems far far more challenging.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by ahazred8ta on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:59PM (#38930350)
No. Most microplastic in water comes from washing machines. Synthetic fibers from clothes.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by epistasis on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:49PM (#38931040)
No.

> Seventy-eight percent of ocean microplastics are synthetic tire rubber, according to one estimate.

https://e360.yale.edu/features/tire-pollution-toxic-chemical...

> About 34% of the emitted coarse TWPs (tire wear particles) and 30% of the emitted coarse BWPs (brake wear particles) (100 kt yr−1 and 40 kt yr−1 respectively) were deposited in the World Ocean. These amounts are of similar magnitude as the total estimated direct and riverine transport of TWPs and fibres to the ocean (64 kt yr−1).

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-17201-9

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by gwbas1c on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:33PM (#38930778)
> No.

Water pollution from brake and tire dust, (and oil drippings,) is well proven. If you build infrastructure to handle runoff from roads, you need to mitigate pollution in that runoff too.

> Most microplastic in water comes from washing machines. Synthetic fibers from clothes.

I know less about that but from what I've skimmed it appears to be true too.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by cma on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:05PM (#38930420)
Each time you clean your dryer lint trap I think you inhale more microplastics than a lifetime of food.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by fnordpiglet on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:12PM (#38930538)
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by city_guy_1 on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:07PM (#38930457)
source?
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by cma on Monday January 15, 2024 @04:28PM (#39006329)
"I think." Just from eyeballing the amount of dust in the air when the sun shines on it while scraping it off.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by Reason077 on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:11PM (#38930522)
> ”Most microplastic in water come from tires.”

And also synthetic clothes. According to the study they found more plastic fibres than plastic particles in many samples.

These get released when you launder your clothes, ending up in the drain water and ultimately the ocean.

Solution? Buy clothes with natural fibres (cotton, wool, etc) instead of plastics. And wash your clothes in a modern washing machine with a microfibre filter on its drain outlet.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by bordercases on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @03:09PM (#38931332)
> And wash your clothes in a modern washing machine with a microfibre filter on its drain outlet.

That doesn't solve the whole problem because the microfibres eventually need disposal.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by Reason077 on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @04:44PM (#38932563)
Assuming you dump the sludge in the bin when you clean the filter then it’s much better than going into the ocean.

Depending on your location, they’ll either get destroyed by incineration or put in landfill where they’ll do less harm and hopefully break down after a few centuries.

Of course, if you clean the filter by flushing the sludge down the sink then you didn’t solve anything.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by bordercases on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @12:07AM (#38936452)
The risk is runoff into the ocean or insertion into the water table through seepage within the dump into the soil. Furthermore incineration doesn't atomize these plastics; the smoke plumage may become a part of rain clouds which either recirculates the contaminants into the water cycle, and thus either in the local environment or into the ocean, again.

Obviously these are geography-relative concerns. But they aren't rare.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by anonymous_pro_ on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:55PM (#38930286)
What town is that? It seems like the success of diversifying away from cars depends on the place and how it grew. LA, for example, grew at the time of peak automobile infrastructure investment and it's basically unrecoverable at this point. There are probably other reasons why places like LA are so locked in to cars now, but that's the one that seems obvious to me.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by epistasis on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @09:34PM (#38935422)
It's a town with one of the highest percentages of bike commuters in the state, actually.

However there's also a regressive aspect that refuses to make any accommodations for anything except cars, and these people have veto power over non-car infrastructure. There is no built-in veto power for new car infrastructure, and in fact existing law requires car infrastructure as a base for any sort of building, for example parking minimums.

Most of the city was built 1960-1980, so based on car designs. But it's small enough that small amounts of change would eliminate car dependence.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by tppiotrowski on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:58PM (#38930339)
I think of tires as being made of rubber. Where does the plastic come from?
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by I_Am_Nous on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:32PM (#38930764)
>Tire factories start with bulk raw materials such as synthetic rubber (60% -70% of total rubber in the tire industry[2][3]), carbon black, and chemicals and produce numerous specialized components that are assembled and cured.

Looks like most of the rubber used these days is synthetic[1], usually made of styrene and butadiene which could easily degrade into base monomers or at least shorter chains.

1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_manufacturing

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by emptybits on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:21PM (#38930593)
Car and light truck tires are apparently only about 19% rubber.[1] More than half of a tire's composition is synthetic polymers, fillers, and textiles (e.g. polyester, rayon, nylon).

[1] https://www.ustires.org/whats-tire-0

Tires generate more particles of pollution than exhaust.[2] EVs are good. But eliminating car exhaust apparently isn't the big car pollution problem.

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/03/car-tyre...

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by haltist on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:07PM (#38930458)
A car tire is not purely rubber, it is combined with synthetic polymers derived from petroleum and petroleum derivatives (same as plastics).
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by olalonde on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:59PM (#38930348)
> Stop driving?

Not a realistic solution. The vast majority of people will take the microplastics over not driving.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by glial on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:02PM (#38930389)
Until the concentration is high enough it affects birth rates.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by fnordpiglet on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:28PM (#38930706)
Birth rates isn’t what motivates people. It’s the act that creates births that people care about. To that end, until it causes impotence.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by tbihl on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:10PM (#38930511)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but birth rates are already pretty low, and, worse than failing to deal with the problem, some people think that is a good thing.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by jay_kyburz on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:46PM (#38930986)
Falling birth rates _is_ a good thing and in my view its the only viable solution to global warming. Less people is less energy use and pollution.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by orthecreedence on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @03:22PM (#38931557)
How can you say that? What about the economy?? Shame on you. I personally won't be happy until the global human population is well over a trillion.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by haltist on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @03:29PM (#38931670)
With advances in genetic engineering we'll soon be able to metabolize plastics and continue growing the human population for colonizing the stars. It looks like plastic pollution is bad but it's actually good. All we need to do is CRISPR ourselves to digest plastics.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by haltist on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:54PM (#38931112)
You're not allowed to say that on forums like HN because this is a place of growth and optimism. Degrowth and other such philosophical positions are considered taboo by the moderators and those with high enough "karma" to make moderation decisions.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by dang on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @06:14PM (#38933705)
That's not any sort of moderation factor on HN.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by malka on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:05PM (#38930428)
It might already do.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by epistasis on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @09:37PM (#38935444)
You say "vast" but we have to outlaw non-car options and legislate that only car options are allowed for nearly all our land.

If we were to even legalize non-car options, we might discover what the market actually wants. And the necessity of those laws kind of shows that the non-car option must be legally suppressed to prevent its true market preference from being revealed.

To everyone who thinks that the "vast majority" of people prefer driving, I say: show the confidence of your convictions and make it legal to build other options.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by olalonde on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @11:14PM (#38936055)
> legalize non-car options

What do you mean by that? Which non-car options are outlawed?

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by epistasis on Wednesday January 10, 2024 @12:39AM (#38936630)
Dense walkable neighborhoods like you'd find in most parts of Europe.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by Solvency on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:56PM (#38930302)
Not just tires. Your clothes being washed.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by ironmagma on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:10PM (#38930510)
Stopping driving is only the beginning. Much more impactful would be to reduce the overall population's driving through legislation/taxation.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by psunavy03 on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:55PM (#38931121)
Ah, yes. Where adopting a fringe belief isn't enough, we need to force it on other people, too.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by ironmagma on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @03:07PM (#38931296)
Whether it's fringe has no impact on whether it's true.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by polski-g on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:12PM (#38930530)
If you donate blood as soon as possible from your last blood donation (per federal regulations), you can remove 50% of your microplastic content per year. Some studies have also shown that going to saunas/sweat lodges also lower your microplastic content.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by charliebwrites on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:17PM (#38930563)
Interesting, so we’ve shown it’s possible to _sweat_ out micro plastics in a sauna?
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by polski-g on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:33PM (#38930782)
That is what the literature suggests, though it was a small n of 20. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22253637/
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by david422 on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:51PM (#38930213)
Hope we don't get cancer. Become vegetarian.
Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by stcg on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:54PM (#38930264)
I don't think becoming vegetarian helps. From the article:

> The study found evidence that food processing is a likely source of microplastic contamination, as highly processed protein products (like fish sticks, chicken nuggets, tofu, and plant-based burgers, among others) contained significantly more microplastics per gram than minimally processed products (items like packaged wild Alaska pollock, raw chicken breast, and others).

Note the tofu and plant-based burgers.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by dashundchen on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:05PM (#38930422)
If you look at the actual data, tofu had the third lowest concentration of microplastic particles per gram (0.03, vs 0.02 for pork loin chop and 0.01 for whole chicken breast).

The press release does a disservice to the study by referring to the highly processed group as a whole and not excluding tofu. For reference, the breaded shrimp and fish sticks were measured to have 1.2 and 0.26 particles per gram.

Table 3.7 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S026974912...

Regardless if a processed food like tofu has minimal plastic concentration, I would assume minimally processed whole plant food like beans and nuts would also have low microplastic exposure. The study found little total plastic from packaging, their evidence pointed towards the processing.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by ericmcer on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @02:47PM (#38930999)
Did you account for calories? Beef has ~3-4X the calories per gram of tofu.

I would guess plants have more microplastics as they just pull things out of the soil and store them (why many plants have a ton of heavy metals). Animals at least have some systems for filtering and processing unwanted items.

Re:Study Finds Microplastics in Nearly 90% of Proteins Sampled by ahoka on Tuesday January 09, 2024 @01:58PM (#38930340)
Plant based meat substitutes are vegan junk food. There are other things to eat that are not meat.