Sure engineering problems may be solved, but personally I don't give Mr. musk credit that he really cares enough if the thing looks "cool" and can be appropriately hyped.

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You may dislike or even hate the man, but he’s a highly successful engineer.

As someone who will probably see a lot of these on the road near me, it's kind of terrifying.

But there are only so many social media influencers who can afford one.

The F-150 EV has orders through next year, and has a long history and branding behind it. Now Ford has some issues with Labor that are going to impact production, but I have little doubt the EV Fords will do well.

https://tfltruck.com/2023/10/ford-lays-off-workers-f-150-lig...

It's a flop, but the hybrid won't be.

I felt that way about Model 3 because it was just too different. I couldn't get past the lack of a grill. Now I got one sitting in the garage. It grows on you after a while.

The electric F150 and the Rivian are already delivering on the promise of a great electric truck. All the cybertruck has going for it now is novelty and with Musk’s cultural standing worsening day by day, it’s hard to imagine which ordinary people are going to ever buy the thing.

Paint is the most fragile part of the car and it's dealing with that is a fact of life but it shouldn't need to be.

With more advanced manufacturing maybe someone can make stainless steel car that doesn't look like it's from a 1994 video game.

There is some anecdotal story about how Chevy had a batch of diesel Colorado trucks and they sold out couple hours hour they made them available online.

sure

yeah, I don't think I have seen a bigger wealth destroyer in my lifetime than betting against Tesla. So many fortunes and careers ruined over the past 13 or so years Tesla has been public, whether on a large scale like hedge funds or smaller like /r/WallStreetBets. Just when Tesla looks its weakest, it has a tendency of suddenly and inexplicably surging 20% or more in a month. happens so many times.

I have a hard time believing that there will be any meaningful quantities - there's absolutely no idea on pricing just a few weeks out from "deliveries" (but I'm willing to nearly guarantee that the promised $39K and $49K models will be nowhere in sight).

Well, maybe not such a hard time. The Tesla Semi "started delivery" last November and supposedly is in production, but no-one's been able to find out pricing information on that, either...

Nah, they will find way to delay it again.

Throwing all their weight behind everyone wanting a 3 and Y was always going to be a problem.

I don’t think the refresh will help that much either, it will just kill demand in the interim.

They need more vehicles, and variety.

I can't imagine a worse take. That's like saying Apple's problem is that they need to have more phone varieties like Android.

im not one to defend apple but they have a few models that range from mid-level to fancy af