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Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by demarq on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @01:20PM (#37394932)
Cracking was a 90s term for pirating software
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by itsnotlupus on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @01:22PM (#37394959)
Cracking is about removing anti-features, typically copy protections. It pairs well with pirating, but neither one strictly requires the other.
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by nonethewiser on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @04:19PM (#37397168)
> Cracking is about removing anti-features

Anti what features? Piracy?

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by function_seven on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @04:42PM (#37397452)
Anti-backup, Anti-I-don't-have-a-cdrom-on-this-machine, Anti-I-lost-the-stupid-dongle, etc.

Like parent says, cracking and piracy pair well, but I've had to do it many times just for compatibility reasons, on software I had purchased.

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by xxs on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @05:33PM (#37398055)
The anti-what-word-is-on-the-17th-page-3rd-paragraph-of-the-handbook was a very common on for so many games.
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by Dylan16807 on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @04:46PM (#37397513)
And just anti-convenience! Nobody wants to swap CDs purely to tick a checkbox.
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by nonethewiser on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @11:52AM (#37406901)
> Anti-backup, Anti-I-don't-have-a-cdrom-on-this-machine, Anti-I-lost-the-stupid-dongle, etc.

All perfectly understandable to me. But from the perspective of the people designing the anti-something system, wouldn't they call it piracy?

We can argue if piracy is a charitable enough name for bypassing copyright protections but that's irrelevant in terms of whether or not that is the thing the software provider is trying to do.

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by phpisthebest on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @01:44PM (#37395231)
pirating software (movies, and music) is a term from the 90's by the MPAA, Riaa, and Games industry in attempting to link the act of simple copyright infringement, a civil non-criminal violation of the law to violent robbery on the high seas...

Cracking is a method of removing undesired features or inclusions from software, often licensing controls, or other anti-consumer features.

Many many many people "cracked" their software who where not eganged in the act of copyright infringement, they legally owned the software but for a number of reasons has no desire to run the invasive software bundled with the game or content they purchased.

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by justapassenger on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @02:29PM (#37395813)
> Many many many people "cracked" their software who where not eganged in the act of copyright infringement, they legally owned the software but for a number of reasons has no desire to run the invasive software bundled with the game or content they purchased.

Yes, many people. But not “many many many” people. You try to make it sound like cracking to pirate was minority use case.

It was a valid use case, sure, but as big as using torrents to download Linux ISOs.

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by PeterisP on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @03:41PM (#37396740)
I seem to recall that for some games the community recommended fix for performance problems was to install a crack so that the game wouldn't try to read stuff from the CD, which might be slow depending on the drive you have, and would be very slow if the CD has some scratch so the drive repeatedly attempted to read the same spot until it succeeded.
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by justapassenger on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @04:56PM (#37397637)
Sure, and I don't question that. But at the same time - 99% of people outside of western countries had pirated copies of games (because it was legal in many countries, plus paying normal price was often month+ salary for a single game). Tons of teenagers from western countries (main gamers back in the days) had pirated games, unless they came from a rich family.

Cracks helped to fix some serious usability issues (as DRM removal nowadays also helps with), but let's not rewrite history to pretend that was what majority of people used them for.

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by dylan604 on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @01:50PM (#37395300)
my favorite use was for software that required a USB dongle. if you lost the dongle, you lost access to the software. there is not "back up" option. so the cracking community came up with a way to emulate those dongles. the obvious abuse followed. we used the software for legit 1:1 installs to physical dongle on blade servers where all of the dongles could not be installed
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by extraduder_ire on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @02:34PM (#37395878)
My favourite failure case of this is dongles on hardware devices, like lighting controllers. Especially when the dongle does in on an exposed edge of the device and can get knocked loose.

I've heard stories of them getting disconnected because they were bumped, and the whole unit goes dead five minutes later. At least it's not immediate.

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by Stibinator on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @11:04PM (#37400900)
I nursed my Lightwave dongle through my early career as an animator. I've lost so many pairs of glasses, several wallets, a couple of phones, but I know exactly which drawer that usb stick is sitting in now. Not that I reckon I'll ever touch LW again.
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by mattw2121 on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @02:06PM (#37395514)
The term "pirate" definitely predates the 90's and RIAA, etc. We used it quite liberally in the 80's BBS era.
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by timmb on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @01:57PM (#37395391)
That was the scariest term they could come up with? The romantic swashbuckling seafarer, antagonising empires and declaring his own rules? Surely they could have done better.

'software fraud', 'software theft', 'forgery'... hmm well there's a reason I don't work in marketing obviously.

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by mrguyorama on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @03:33PM (#37396628)
They did those as well, and they also paid for extensive marketing material to make it seem like buying a cracked game was directly contributing to a mafia that was planning on killing your granny.

Do you not remember the ads? The "you wouldn't steal a car"?

Piracy is just what they were able to get. Should have hired the bank's PR managers, who turned "failing to do due diligence on a customer's identity" into the customer's problem.

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by SOLAR_FIELDS on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @07:54PM (#37399493)
Wasn’t it “You wouldn’t download a car”?

Which ended up being quite funny, because I very much would download a car

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by dron57 on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @08:08PM (#37399605)
It was "you wouldn't steal a car". People on the internet rightly corrected it to "download".
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by retrac on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @10:09PM (#37400609)
Real piracy happens today. Men with machine guns in speedboats. It's not very romantic.
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by TigeriusKirk on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @02:06PM (#37395513)
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by mjg59 on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @04:16PM (#37397142)
The use of "piracy" to describe unauthorised publication of a copyrighted work dates back to the 18th century, it's not something the MPAA came up with.
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by lolinder on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @08:32PM (#37399801)
You're right! Etymonline traces it back to 1706 (without a source) [0], and I found it in the original Webster's [1]:

> A bookseller that seizes the copies or writings of other men without permission.

> PI'RATE, verb transitive To take by theft or without right or permission, as books or writings.

[0] https://www.etymonline.com/word/pirate#etymonline_v_16375

[1] https://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Pirate

Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by Bluecobra on Tuesday September 05, 2023 @05:34PM (#37398082)
Another alternative to cracking was to use something like DAEMON Tools to emulate the CD in the drive with an .iso so you could legitimately play multiplayer games without having to deal with stupid CD checks.
Re:Rockstar is selling cracked game copies on Steam by hdjfkfbfbr on Wednesday September 06, 2023 @06:20PM (#37412189)
Daemon tools was the bomb