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Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by maximinus_thrax on Thursday August 24, 2023 @05:51PM (#37255015)
> I shake your hands. You feel my hand shaking. I give you a hug, and you feel my intimacy.

Yeah, no thanks bro, I'm good. I can do my job very well without feeling anyone's intimacy, thank you very much.

Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by willcipriano on Thursday August 24, 2023 @05:56PM (#37255070)
When I think of the office I think about intimate hugs. Can't get any work done over all the intimate hugs around the water cooler.
Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by resolutebat on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:02PM (#37255128)
Maybe try the intimate hug next to the water cooler instead?
Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by kaliqi_ on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:06PM (#37255184)
or just intimately hug the water cooler.
Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by abawany on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:18PM (#37255285)
It's going to leave you cold.
Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by Dalewyn on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:24PM (#37255341)
The water cooler is infinitely warmer than any co-worker because the water cooler will never screw me over.
Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by afavour on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:21PM (#37255317)
Intimacy is definitely the wrong word but even as someone 100% in favour of remote work I will admit that in person bonding and teamwork is superior to remote.
Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by apsurd on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:00PM (#37255115)
Your reply makes it seem like you're allergic to intimacy. There are upsides to compartmentalization but fundamentally we work with humans.

So no, if your job is with humans, I don't think you can do it _better_ without intimacy. I'm not trying to be pedantic either. Maybe you just care about "good enough" and that's completely fine. But not better. I'd disagree.

Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by jrflowers on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:09PM (#37255221)
> Your reply makes it seem like you're allergic to intimacy.

This is a good point. If a person doesn’t enjoy intimate hugs in the workplace, where on earth would they enjoy any sort of intimacy?

Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by dpkirchner on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:19PM (#37255296)
For me, I use the number of intimate hugs I get during interviews to get a feel for how many I should expect during mandatory team lunches and stand-ups (I mean hug-ups). If I don't get a single hug from the interviewer or any other staff, I know it's a low-intimacy place and won't expect more hugs down the line.
Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by jrflowers on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:28PM (#37255372)
Open concept office design has been a godsend for team building cuddle puddles. I hated having to go cubicle to cubicle giving out back rubs in the 90s
Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by harpiaharpyja on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:18PM (#37255288)
I'm guessing this is sarcasm?
Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by cultofmetatron on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:08PM (#37255214)
no thanks. intimacy is a minefield when you have trouble reading people like me. especially in an office. some people get uncomfortable if you get to close. some don't like it if you aren't close enough. With women its even worse! I've had my body language be misinterpreted one too many times and it stresses me out.

Give me remote where I can keep a professional distance where I don't need to worry about making anyone uncomfortable.

Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by wintogreen74 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:15PM (#37255268)
Intimacy is not just about close physical interaction, it's about building trust, empathy and understanding. It helps us assume the best and not jump on any comment assuming the absolute worst... you know, kind of the opposite of the entire internet.
Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by Dalewyn on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:29PM (#37255385)
Work is where we go to be professionals.

If I need to be personal in the workplace, that is plainly unprofessional and I am quitting because I like a clear line between my personal and professional life.

Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by xwdv on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:00PM (#37255114)
I don’t know why they think only good things happen when people see each other in person.

In person you can be sexually harassed. Or if there’s a bad meeting, you might feel intimidated by my simmering rage. What if someone goes postal?

Re:Zoom’s CEO thinks Zoom sucks for building trust, leaked a... by wintogreen74 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:18PM (#37255294)
Without any sort of stats or reference I'm confident saying far more sexual harassment happens online. The vast majority is not physical contact.

>> What if someone goes postal?

The LACK of intimacy (and the empathy and trust that it's composed of) is what leads to "going postal", often driven directly by remote interactions. This is why the thin piece of glass in a car windshield allows otherwise civil people to experience road rage.