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Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by fortran77 on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @10:09PM (#37244272)
I’ve seen obese people walk like this. It’s a waddle, done by rotating / thrusting the hips first to the left, then to the right, and the corresponding leg will follow.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by lemper on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:50PM (#37244822)
if the constraints are like that, 1 actuator and 2 rigid bodies, i don't think i can find a better solution. so, mighty fine job, i guess?
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by tnecniv on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @11:54PM (#37244843)
It’s not physically realizable but the spring-loaded inverted pendulum is arguably the “simplest” walking model. It’s just a mass on a spring.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by s1mon on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:14AM (#37245274)
Or there’s always just a spring on an inclined plane or stairs. AKA, a Slinky.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by fsckboy on Thursday August 24, 2023 @01:32AM (#37245376)
somebody needs to make an animation of a slinky on some Escher staircases.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by antfarm on Thursday August 24, 2023 @05:38AM (#37246849)
s/somebody/some AI/
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by IshKebab on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:46AM (#37246477)
A spring isn't a rigid body.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by zardo on Friday August 25, 2023 @02:56PM (#37265758)
It is an actuator though
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by Animats on Thursday August 24, 2023 @12:45AM (#37245106)
Did they just build this? [1]

The new thing here is that they can steer, by tweaking the motor phase.

[1] https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832650580970.html

Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by RedNifre on Thursday August 24, 2023 @02:37AM (#37245736)
We can't see what you posted, because it does not ship to our location.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by cbluth on Thursday August 24, 2023 @03:10AM (#37245936)
It's a windup toy robot, resembling something like a retro vintage version of the robot emoji, and I assume the legs march the robot around after being wound up
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by fhars on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:23AM (#37246337)
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by HWR_14 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @09:47AM (#37248719)
Yes. Or it's similar enough that the images look the same to me.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by Someone on Thursday August 24, 2023 @03:37AM (#37246084)
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Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by jstanley on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:13AM (#37246268)
I think the axle is fixed to one of the legs.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by YeGoblynQueenne on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:55AM (#37246536)
No, they built this:

https://susquehannavalley.blogspot.com/2019/10/wilson-walkie...

FTA:

>> We base our robot on classic passive dynamic walking toys like the Wilson Walker [12].

Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by YeGoblynQueenne on Thursday August 24, 2023 @04:50AM (#37246507)
>> Fig. 2 illustrates the design of the robot and the key parameters, with design rules given in Table II and the experimental robot’s final parameters given in Table III.

There is no Table II :(

Passive Dynamic Walking is interesting. I remember being really impressed by a video of a pair of legs going down a slope without any mechanical force on the "walker" itself to move them, just gravity and friction, I guess. That was back in 2014, probably. It seems like people have kept working on the concept. I have no way to tell though whether the idea really has cough cough legs, or it will just remain an engineering curiosity that can never be put to real work.

I can't really tell from this paper. Robotics is not my expertise (I work on autonomous navigation and decision-making for robots, but I'm not allowed to go anywhere near the robots. Electronics fry when I'm in proximity).

Edit: collection of passive dynamic walking videos:

https://youtu.be/FfKQSUhYjlY?si=9xGPqYwMeUyIwjqu

Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by jens-c on Thursday August 24, 2023 @08:16AM (#37247916)
Table II is just beneath Table I, top of left column on page 2...
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by YeGoblynQueenne on Thursday August 24, 2023 @07:39PM (#37255975)
Thanks. Don't know what happened. I clicked on the hyperlink and still missed it.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by Gravityloss on Thursday August 24, 2023 @09:24AM (#37248471)
This video would deserve its own submission!
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by YeGoblynQueenne on Friday August 25, 2023 @04:40AM (#37259480)
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Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by pangolinja on Thursday August 24, 2023 @05:22AM (#37246723)
I think the Jansen linkage is an awesome way to get very life-like walking motion with minimal complexity
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by harvie on Thursday August 24, 2023 @05:57AM (#37246972)
Well that just sounds like a bristlebot with extra steps.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by lapinot on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:16AM (#37247113)
Not the same mechanism but another simple single-motor/continuous-motion walker in lego https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt2DszsjmQM .. The guy has a couple other walkers..
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by arketyp on Thursday August 24, 2023 @07:30AM (#37247613)
I used to have a modest claim to fame in the niche world of Lego biped walkers with a similar design, some 20 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKioQefwKWQ

Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by lapinot on Thursday August 24, 2023 @07:45AM (#37247711)
Nice one! Very neat.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by arketyp on Thursday August 24, 2023 @07:55AM (#37247768)
Thanks!
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by projektfu on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:42AM (#37247282)
I'm thinking there must therefore be a Zoolander robot that can't turn left.
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by cantSpellSober on Thursday August 24, 2023 @09:49AM (#37248752)
Re:The Simplest Walking Robot: A bipedal robot with 1 actuat... by dcuthbertson on Friday August 25, 2023 @07:36AM (#37260544)
Yes, the design, two rigid bodies connected by a single actuator is very cool. However, it's the eyes that are most striking. The eyes and the rainbow colors. So very pretty. How could one not want to fund further development?