Also, the mass shooting thing has gotten much worse in the last 30 years.
Gun violence deaths YTD at end of March 2023: ~10,000.
Question asked: "How many peole in the u.s. die in mass shootings compared to how many people die in gun violence?"
Source: https://www.phind.com/search?cache=6a726999-4846-410b-aa52-5...
How many killed from cars???!!!?? Pools?!?!
I'm living with a disabled father from a car accident. Decades to go caring for a completely disabled person. Many thousands of people every year are in pain from car accidents. Or medical malpractice which takes like a quarter million lives yearly.
No need to go on about extremely rare insane people that are almost all medicated. They would drive a truck through a crowd if not gun them down.
The numbers don't make sense, 200 vs millions impacted by other real problems
School shootings in the USA absolutely eclipse every other first world nation combined. Also, 200 deaths equates to potentially hundreds of thousands of traumatised kids. With such fear permeating it’s not surprising that the system produces mentally unstable people that can’t access treatment.
I think _you_ lack empathy. You probably support disarming teachers!
> School shootings in the USA absolutely eclipse every other first world nation combined.
5 a year? It's a rounding error compared to medical malpractice, car deaths, a weekend in Chicago, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
> The shootings and its highly toxic discourse are symptoms of something very rotten.
What conclusions can you draw from 1 wacko out of 400 million people? They're nearly all heavily medicated, male, fatherless, etc. etc.
> shitty healthcare
OK and this would be dramatically improved by having far fewer regulations (costs min $1bn to make a medicine) and far worse punishments for harming people. Capitalism would help here, as it has, because USA has best healthcare in the world and has created a majority of the novel tech the world uses..
I am sorry that one of your loved ones was involved in an accident and I am sure that is extremely painful to experience.
How many people carry at the grocery store? Would you ever know? Likely 10% are carrying.
It's not that scary to carry a gun. You might just be ignorant? The car ride to and from school is literally many times more dangerous..
Can you explain why teachers should be defenseless, why they should disarm themselves? Why shouldn't others?
I went to a school with a bunch of psycho kids who carried knives. No one ever got stabbed, but it creates an emotionally unsafe environment the isn’t conducive of learning, or just being a kid. A feeling of violence and aggression permeates and grants the worst students an unreasonable level of power over everyone else. Do you think in this instance giving the teachers knives would actually make anyone feel at ease?
b-because your are taking away their gun... huh? Again: every time you go grocery shopping a substantial number of people around you are armed. You wouldn't know it.
> Why carry a gun unless you think there is a distinct chance that it will be need to be used?
You don't carry? You just carry. Do you carry pepper spray?
> Do you think in this instance giving the teachers knives would actually make anyone feel at ease?
I'd rather they have guns ???
Now that we have that solved we can talk about actual issues.
What if a kid is getting mauled by a dog, or a violent person wanders into the building and starts hurting people? Are you going to wait minutes for the police to show up when seconds count? It seems like all the pragmatic people have left the room whenever any kind of discussion about firearms comes up.
The actual numbers for what's going on in Chicago are remarkably easy to get.
And for fun, what is a woman?
Moreover, actually in USA deaths on roads went up
Moreover, there is large overlap between those who see mass shooting as issue and those who want walkable streets and the kind of zoning that promotes less driving.
The fact is, kids are having active shooter drills in schools.
200 kids have died last month in Chicago.
Come on.
And, of course, the number of kids shot in Chicago last month doesn't even resemble 200.
You could make a very similar list focusing on income, cost of living and relative buying power on a timescale of 50 years or another on the environment on a scale of 20 years and both would be quite depressing.
It feels very "well actually" wishful thinking by someone well off enough to ignore all the cracks.
At least it doesn't feel quite as deliberately misleading as the Steven Pinker "we redefined the poverty line, look at all the poverty that's going away" slight of hand.
Well, you’re living. Without disease, war or famine. The world’s knowledge at your fingertips.
I’m about your age, and while there is a lot of work to be done, one of the most difficult hurdles to solving them is the nihilism and civic disengagement in our generation and industry. We’re sitting in a golden age of human achievement at the centre of the first world.
> could make a very similar list focusing on income, cost of living and relative buying power on a timescale of 50 years or another on the environment on a scale of 20 years and both would be quite depressing
Real wages have gone up over the last fifty and twenty years. Living in cities has become less affordable. But that you’re citing that as a standard of wellbeing, it’s a massive improvement from the post-War era.
On top of that the added anxiety people experience because of living paycheck to paycheck.
It's becoming more and more like in the movie Elysium - all the technological wonders are there - just not accessible to the poor.
Again, you’re comparing this to a past where continuing to exist wasn’t a given.
...???
> just not accessible to the poor.
Homeless have iphones. A technology a king wouldn't ever be able to make. Thank capitalism and go outside.
1900: 47%
1950: 55%
2000: 66%
2022: 66%
Further, ownership going beyond certain numbers does not necessarily mean good either.
Keep in mind that the mentioned "social housing factor" does exist, but it is also almost entirely in the hands of Gen X and older because building social housing had already stalled by that time.
Imagine getting cancer 70 years ago. Imagine trying to find a song 70 years ago. Imagine trying to get directions, find a restaurant .....
Life is so much easier it's unfathomable, but you have to have gratitude.
How much you make a year?
K12 teacher should easily afford housing. Especially with a spouse and summer job, for crying out loud!
I also don't think it's a tradeoff we necessarily need to make.
Regardless, I'd rather live happier for less time than longer in poverty.
Finding a song was just different and a leisure commodity, people are still buying records. Directions were a similar task 50+ years ago as they were in the 90s, not that challenging to live day to day without Google Maps.
I think those are all pretty lazy, very fathomable examples.
"Remember buying music on discs! So hard". No. No it wasn't.
I also see this complaint from 2nd+ generation Americans. The 1st generation immigrant families I know save their money meticulously and end up buying one, two, three houses and renting them out. They do this amazing feat by saving almost all of their income and forgoing all luxuries for 10 years, then renting the rooms of the house they buy out, using the income to buy the second house that’s rented out, etc. They live a life of wise frugality, never drinking an espresso drink or watching Netflix, and scrupulously managing their income and savings - on accountant and K12 teacher incomes. The truth is you can buy a place for $700k in say Seattle for $140k down payment, which if you save 50% of your net income making a dual income of $120k/year takes less than 10 years.
Read the Jungle for a sense of what housing felt like pre-WW2. Compare it to what I described above happens today. Ask yourself what specifically is challenging you compared to other succeeding at it today and those succeeding at it 100 years ago. Maybe hold the post war era as a blip and outlier, and draw a line between you and the past without letting the outlier dominate your perception of your lot in life. Or move somewhere other than San Francisco.
Prices literally went up by a cool 100% or so over the past 5 years or so (if you account for the now ludicrous financing rates; 62% in raw prices) in Germany.
Housing in Cologne cost 3451 EUR/m² in 2017. We're currently up to 5508 EUR/m². Morgage rates went from ~1.2% pa to almost 4% pa over the past 3 years.
That's not normal.
Ultimately supply is the only way to decrease price.
Look, I know the economics. I don't like them. Fundamentally. Housing shouldn't be owned, at least not at scale.
My comment was mostly to point how how asinine your "if you are persistent you can do it" point is, being that both rent and morgages are skyrocketing. My rent got raised by 14 percent (it's coupled to inflation, that used to be a better deal) and you'd need about 200k/yr (pre-tax) household income right now to even get approved for a morgage here. It's essentially impossible for a working class person, unless you're on the top few percent of (labor based) income. And those people tend to have substantial capital too. Tech salaries don't scale this far here.
We are living in the best of times. We just don’t want to believe it.