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Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by behnamoh on Thursday March 02, 2023 @02:46PM (#35000891)
If only they had chosen a better name... "Eleuther" is hard to pronounce correctly for someone who doesn't know the word.
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by ftxbro on Thursday March 02, 2023 @03:08PM (#35001234)
how do you pronounce it correctly
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by danuker on Thursday March 02, 2023 @03:24PM (#35001490)
I couldn't find the IPA even in Wiktionary, but I found out where it comes from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleutheromania
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by stellaathena on Thursday March 02, 2023 @05:43PM (#35003117)
Actually the origin is this word (with the last two letters transposed), and the Wikipedia article gives IPA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleutheria

Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by spapas82 on Thursday March 02, 2023 @03:26PM (#35001517)
If it's from the greek word for freedom (ελευθερία) then i guess elefther: ele (like electric) f the (like thesis) r.
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by akavi on Thursday March 02, 2023 @03:46PM (#35001792)
Where are you getting an /f/ sound from?

Edit: Ah, it seems the digraph "ευ" is pronounced /ef/ in Modern Greek, despite (by convention) being transliterated "eu".

Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by spapas82 on Thursday March 02, 2023 @04:22PM (#35002264)
Correct. Thee same pronunciation exists in ancient greek for example ευ ζην is ef zin (the good life).

Also the ευ situation is a little more complex ie sometimes it is pronunciated as ev (depending if the next letter is a vowel).

Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by akavi on Thursday March 02, 2023 @05:48PM (#35003171)
Wikipedia suggests that "ευ" was pronounced /eu̯/ in ancient greek[0]. My suspicion is that "ευ ζην" is an Ancient Greek "fixed phrase" which is pronounced with Modern Greek phonology.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_phonology#Diphth...

Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by dwringer on Thursday March 02, 2023 @04:56PM (#35002639)
Huh, this seems to be the same linguistic phenomenon observed in British English with the word "lieutenant" but perhaps independently evolved.
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by 1f60c on Thursday March 02, 2023 @03:58PM (#35001982)
I'm just going to keep saying YOO-luh-tuhr, thank you very much.
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by e12e on Thursday March 02, 2023 @05:02PM (#35002698)
Reminds me of Yog-Sothoth, which would be a great name for an anthropomorphized statistical model...

> Yog-Sothoth knows the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the gate. Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate. Past, present, future, all are one in Yog-Sothoth. He knows where the Old Ones broke through of old, and where They shall break through again. He knows where They have trod earth's fields, and where They still tread them, and why no one can behold Them as They tread.

Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by corysama on Thursday March 02, 2023 @06:58PM (#35003830)
You laugh. But, that has been the meme about GPT for a bit now

https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1625850766039842824?c...

RLHF = Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback

Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by TeMPOraL on Thursday March 02, 2023 @08:02PM (#35004419)
A meme that quickly became a long-form article: https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/janus-simulators.
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by TeMPOraL on Thursday March 02, 2023 @08:01PM (#35004410)
Reminds me of how there was a post on LessWrong some good decade ago, with a chilling premise: we somehow manage to get a safe, trustworthy, correct AI working, and as we fire it up and ask to tell us about our world, it starts talking about things we somehow can't perceive...
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by canjobear on Thursday March 02, 2023 @04:51PM (#35002591)
The English convention is to pronounce -eu- in Greek words as /ju/, not /ef/.
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by telotortium on Thursday March 02, 2023 @05:09PM (#35002772)
Yes, basically Greek words in English are pronounced as Latin loanwords, according to how the Greek words would have been pronounced in Latin around AD 1 (except that ph and th, but not ch, are pronounced as fricatives in English). Greek αυ and ευ were still pronounced as diphthongs at the time.
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by elkos on Thursday March 02, 2023 @06:12PM (#35003416)
My name is Ελευθέριος and I transliterate it as Eleftherios in English.
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by spapas82 on Friday March 03, 2023 @12:23AM (#35006140)
There's a "standard" way of how greek words should be transliterated in English (ELOT 743). You can test it here https://www.passport.gov.gr/passports/GrElotConverter/GrElot...

And yes, Eleftherios is the correct transliteration :)

Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by elkos on Friday March 03, 2023 @02:44PM (#35014097)
I know. I've even seen my name written as Eleytherios.
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by bilsbie on Thursday March 02, 2023 @05:25PM (#35002954)
I’d been saying E Luther. Is that all wrong?
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by RobotToaster on Thursday March 02, 2023 @06:55PM (#35003796)
I assume similar to luthier?
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by layer8 on Thursday March 02, 2023 @09:10PM (#35004962)
Like the Eleuthera island in the Bahamas I would think: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3-F-7WKXG14

So Eh-Luther AI.

Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by coffeebeqn on Thursday March 02, 2023 @04:06PM (#35002077)
Which is everyone
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by ttctciyf on Thursday March 02, 2023 @04:33PM (#35002402)
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by Dalewyn on Thursday March 02, 2023 @05:20PM (#35002909)
One measure of likelihood for success is how well the name rolls off the tongue.
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by nwoli on Thursday March 02, 2023 @06:04PM (#35003344)
Yeah for a Coca Cola type of product not a research organization filled with people who could care less
Re:EleutherAI announces it has become a non-profit by layer8 on Thursday March 02, 2023 @09:19PM (#35005019)
You mean like Betamax vs. VHS? ;)