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Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by ddtaylor on Thursday February 02, 2023 @03:21PM (#34632421)
> My friends and I would build CounterStrike maps that were the layout of our highschool and would then run around and shoot each other.

There was a small netcafe nearby when I was young that had a good quality T1 connection and hosted their own CS servers. Some of the players got together and actually mapped out the entire netcafe store itself and some of the surrounding area to create a "de_" style map.

This meant you could be playing CS and spawn in the same room that you were actually sitting in.

I can still remember vividly as a 14 year old playing the game and completely dominating a room full of 20-something older guys in the other room. They didn't know who I was and every time I would stomp them they would yell "FUCK" from the other room. Eventually after a series of absurd kills they angrily stormed over to our room in a hostile manner ready to fight and 100% convinced I was somehow cheating. The look on their face when they realized they were "prepared" to fight a kid and the realization as I openly allowed them to inspect the PC for whatever they thought was modified on it was hilarious.

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by monktastic1 on Thursday February 02, 2023 @03:36PM (#34632608)
> a good quality T1

Oh man, I remember the good ol' days, when a 1.5 Mbps connection was unthinkably fast. I imagined only God herself had a T3.

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by akiselev on Thursday February 02, 2023 @03:46PM (#34632734)
That was when I discovered the magnificent beauty of symmetry.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by tiahura on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:06PM (#34633033)
And more importantly for gaming, low latency.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by Legion on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:26PM (#34633322)
LPB, Low Ping Bastard.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by sholnay on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:44PM (#34633602)
haha! wow memories.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by dang on Sunday February 05, 2023 @11:29PM (#34673350)
This is off topic (because the current comment is just fine) but can you please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34673344?
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by manual89 on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:26PM (#34633321)
I remember the days when I tried to play Quake on my 28.8 modem over the net pre-Quakeworld.

Almost made me swear online multiplayer off for life.

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by Seanambers on Thursday February 02, 2023 @08:36PM (#34636022)
You should've tried Doom over dialup :)
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by 1letterunixname on Thursday February 02, 2023 @10:31PM (#34636810)
It's all about Doom over null modem.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by Foobar8568 on Friday February 03, 2023 @05:19AM (#34639420)
Diablo 2 in HC over dial-up in South France was fun, especially with the random disconnection that was plaguing different providers...
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by phplovesong on Friday February 03, 2023 @07:11AM (#34640087)
Duke nukem 3d. Dialup. Wow thats pure nostalgia!
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by 29athrowaway on Friday February 03, 2023 @10:04AM (#34641922)
It would go out of sync and switch to single player.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by base698 on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:18AM (#34640651)
Doom was ok over dial up computer to computer. Quake was even slow connected direct over modem. I would guess the slowness was the extra data for the 3rd dimension going over the wire.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by aliswe on Saturday February 04, 2023 @10:33PM (#34661529)
Quake even synced gibs
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by brewtide on Friday February 03, 2023 @06:23PM (#34649279)
My memory was marathon on the Mac played over a similar connection speed. I forget the software but it allowed a networked game to be emulated over a PPP dialup session.

Fondly look back at those times, indeed.

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by 1letterunixname on Thursday February 02, 2023 @10:31PM (#34636804)
I finagled 512kbps SDSL from a startup telco for $70/month in 1998.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by godzillabrennus on Friday February 03, 2023 @01:35AM (#34637862)
I remember thinking the T1 that lit up my entire school district was insanely fast. That was until I went to college and found they had a 2Gbit fiber optic Internet2 link on campus. That was mind blowing.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by CalRobert on Friday February 03, 2023 @08:23AM (#34640713)
I remember the day I got ISDN at and I could listen to an MP3 as fast as I could download it (if it was encoded at 112kbps...)
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by epolanski on Friday February 03, 2023 @10:08AM (#34641981)
To be honest, it used to be.

I have never, ever seen pings as low as the ones I've seen 15/20 years ago when playing online.

I remember when I played Counter Strike 1.5 or 1.6 on a 10 MBit fiber which was very new at the time and pinging on servers nor far my house (few miles) even sub 10 ms. Those were numbers that competed with lan servers over ethernet.

Nowadays I have a much better connection, and yet, I rarely see myself with such a small latency anymore, it's at least twice that.

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by pastage on Saturday February 04, 2023 @03:07PM (#34657677)
I agree about the big comercial servers/games. The community driven servers are often better latency, e.g. I got 7ms in this game, the same server was 60ms when gaming through the VPN and enterprise proxy.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by sholnay on Thursday February 02, 2023 @04:44PM (#34633585)
The only cheat I needed was my bindings, which I stored on my website so I could download at the cafe ;)
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by MonaroVXR on Thursday February 02, 2023 @06:16PM (#34634694)
>"...hey didn't know who I was and every time I would stomp them they would yell "FUCK" from the other room...."

I laughed so hard about this, I can picture this in my mind.

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by ArtWomb on Thursday February 02, 2023 @06:34PM (#34634891)
>>> There was a small netcafe nearby when I was young that had a good quality T1 connection and hosted their own CS servers

PC Bang in Columbia MD circa 2006! $3/hr. Spanking fresh GeForce 7900s.

Starcraft was really why every one showed up though ;)

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by ddtaylor on Thursday February 02, 2023 @06:49PM (#34635043)
Ha! Same here it was about $3/hr but you could also buy a monthly thing. It was about 2002.

Everyone showed up for CS or Red Alert it seemed!

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by spiritplumber on Thursday February 02, 2023 @07:17PM (#34635314)
For us it was Starcraft and Need For Speed.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by leviathant on Thursday February 02, 2023 @06:45PM (#34634998)
Nice! I've always appreciated how moddable games like this have traditionally been. I texture-mapped? skinned? myself and my friends onto the models in the Counterstrike installations we had on the four computers we kept LAN'd together in our apartment.

Well. We only ended up playing with them a couple of times, because it ended up feeling uncomfortably gruesome - shooting and and killing your friends in cs_italy or whatever.

Mapping out familiar buildings and locations? A much less traumatizing use of time and resources. Kudos.

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by KennyBlanken on Thursday February 02, 2023 @07:32PM (#34635471)
> I can still remember vividly as a 14 year old playing the game and completely dominating a room full of 20-something older guys in the other room.

People just don't understand how good reaction times are for teenagers - even in your twenties it's already getting worse!

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by BearOso on Thursday February 02, 2023 @09:54PM (#34636569)
> a "de_" style map

Those prefixes indicate the map mission type, not a style. "de" indicates a demolition or defusal mission. The actual official map name is what's after the underscore. I think there were only those and the "cs" "counterstrike" hostage maps at the start.

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by elefanten on Thursday February 02, 2023 @10:06PM (#34636653)
I don't think gp necessarily contradicts that. Maybe just difference of word choice wrt "style"
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by ddtaylor on Friday February 03, 2023 @02:50AM (#34638384)
That is correct. The pedantic and accurate term would be "objective" since they are basically modify the win conditions of the round, but I chose to use the word "style" because it comes down to how you want to play the game.

There are many players that play "cs_" maps where you're technically supposed to be grabbing hostages and returning them to the spawn zone, but many players chose to play those maps in a different style where they just eliminate all the other players or run out the timer.

Likewise on "de_" maps you're supposed to plant the bomb, but instead many players choose to simply use the bomb to pressure (by essentially tricking the enemy into thinking you care about the bomb) people into situations and trade out kills.

Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by johnchristopher on Friday February 03, 2023 @02:12AM (#34638103)
So, you don't remember "es_", hmmm ? Tss, tss.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by BearOso on Friday February 03, 2023 @12:11PM (#34644154)
Nope. I just remember the early versions. I didn't get hooked--stopped well before it was moved to Steam, which I thought was bloatware (and it was back then). My younger brother was obsessed with it for a while, though.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by nonplus on Friday February 03, 2023 @07:06AM (#34640066)
vip_ was another early map type that existed pre 1.6.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by pyinstallwoes on Friday February 03, 2023 @02:35AM (#34638244)
I have a similar story from a pc gaming cafe. Someone became convinced I was cheating and pulled a knife out on me. Strange times.
Re:Play Counter Strike 1.6, with full multiplayer, in the br... by elymar on Saturday February 04, 2023 @05:20AM (#34653326)
I miss making CS maps. Was a great creative outlet for one to enjoy with others.