Interesting. May be a bug related to the schema markup

Same issue happens for a search of “the terminator cast”

I did the same search for 1 and 3 and he doesn’t show up there either.

Very interesting especially since he was the leading role in that movie.

He doesn’t appear for any of his movies when searching for the cast, it’s not just Terminator 2.

Arnold seems to be totally missing.

Not in Kindergarten Cop either.

Last Action Hero has T-1000 but not Arnold.

https://www.google.com/search?q=cast+of+last+action+hero

How about EU-issued "right to be forgotten"? Is it possible that Arnie requested being removed from all the search results?

CCPA Sounds right - even searching for his name results in a different header of his son Patrick https://www.google.com/search?q=arnold+schwarzenegger

He's missing from seemingly any search results about movies when query string is "cast of <MOVIE>"

But he's there when searching "Mr Olympia 1970s" : https://www.google.com/search?q=mr+olympia+1970s

So maybe not RTBF.

My initial guess is that a crude pattern match for the n word also filters his surname.

FYI many of these top results are Manually curated / created. I'd wager that to be the reason.

And a manual curator would omit arnie for what reason?

If it's truly manual it could simply be a mistake.

For all Schwarzenegger movies?

If someone accidentally deleted the Schwarzenegger table in a database, I would expect all movies to no longer reference him.

Could it be possibly because of some badly written word filter? I’m hinting at the second part of his last name. The extra “g” is there because that’s how it’s spelled in German language, and yes, the translation is what you would guess.

Schwarz is black?

Google says:

From Schwarzenegg +‎ -er, literally “someone from Schwarzenegg”, referring to either of two places in Switzerland and Austria, from schwarz (“black”) +‎ Egg (“ridge”), cognate with Ecke.

While true, it’s also true that “neger” is the German word for “negro” and the last time I was in Bavaria also a certain type of dark chocolate covered donut. I’m not sure if the word is considered outmoded or politically incorrect as it is in English.

I can assure you that it is the German equivalent of the N-word in most ways, using it is frowned upon and perceived as a racial slur (although this hasn't been the case few decades below still). But people who use it nowadays are either very old or racists.

I thought it was a somewhat common name for a Coke/beer mix. Is that a regional thing? Or maybe I just accidentally hung out with lots of old and/or racist Germans

Definitely somewhat racist.

>I’m not sure if the word is considered outmoded or politically incorrect as it is in English.

It is. Very much so. It's the equivalent to the US "n-word".

It can also mean harrow —someone who harrows land.

He was on Letterman in the 1980s and said his name means “black plowman”.

If you search for arnold schwarzenegger, there are results about him, but there is no infobox. So it seems he is gone from the "clever parts" of search, but not from normal results. Amusingly, one time I searched for arnold scharzenegger I got an infobox about his son Patrick Arnold Shriver Schwarzenegger, but this was once-only thing, I did save a screenshot to prove it though.

still shows up when you google "governator"

Also if you search for "governors of california" which surprised me, since he's invisible just about everywhere else.

I get the same thing. I think that's the issue, Google is confusing the two. If you click the arrow on the infobox next to 'Movies and TV shows' it searches with the keywords 'patrick schwarzenegger movies and tv shows' but if you change it to 'arnold schwarzenegger movies and tv shows' you still get movies and TV shows for Patrick.

I think it's because Patrick Schwarzenegger has been in some stuff recently. Google Search tries to predicatively rank content based on recent popularity but just screws it up most of the time. I run into this same issue frequently with Google Search now which is one of the many reasons why I switched to DDG as my primary search engine. Google search results have just become unusably poor.

I tried the query in other search engines:

- Bing shows a similar carousel as Google at the top but here Arnold is the first image.

- DuckDuckGo doesn't show a direct answer. First results are IMDb and Wikipedia.

- Kagi is similar to DuckDuckGo, no direkt answer, IMDb and Wikipedia first. Where it gets interesting is the third result. It is a link to a Google query for the phrase: "Why doesn't Arnold Schwarzenegger show up in this query on Google?"

Are IMDb and Wikipedia not appropriate direct answers?

What GP means is that it's not inline, presented as a carousel or info-box (usually with a source link) instead of as a normal search result.

Yandex shows him as first result in the cast listing, same with Brave Search.

https://yandex.com/search/touch/?text=cast+of+the+terminator...

https://search.brave.com/search?q=cast+of+the+terminator+2&s...

Maybe the ML powering google is experiencing a Scunthorpe hiccup

Works for me: https://imgur.com/a/2cEuYyS

Searching from Belgium. Can it be region or language related?

This is what I get: https://imgur.com/a/dusADjq

Picture of Schwarznegger under "Robert Winley" for some reason, but that's it.

Also if you scroll down a bit more it shows not just Edward Furlong as John Connor, but also Dalton Abbott, Michael Edwards, and Marius Clarén.

Abbott and Edwards are "Old John Connor" and "Infant John Connor" on imdb, and Marius Clarén is the guy who does the voice of Connor in the German dub. I guess it's "correct" for some value of "correct", but also not really.

tl;dr: don't trust these google instant preview thingies it seems.

Google "Beethoven," and look at the photo (in the US, anyway) it highlights: rather than the most famous portrait of him, that we know was done when he was alive and for which he actually sat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_van_Beethoven#/media/Fi...

it highlights this one, of dubious authenticity (it's not even clear Beethoven actually sat for it): https://www.beethoven.de/en/media/view/6367856916692992/Ludw...

The fact that the algorithm is going out of its way to emphasize a previously much less well known image of the composer, and one where he appears noticeably darker is extremely suspicious. My guess is it has something to do with the "Beethoven was black" business, or maybe Google just localizes image results based on the demographics of the country the person is searching from? Either way, it's ridiculous.

Hi, I work at Google but don't work in Search currently. It looks like poor Mr Schwarzenegger has exposed some bug in the knowledge graph (searching for just [arnold schwarzenegger] in en-US shows a knowledge panel for the actor's son, oops; searching for the son does the right thing). Thank you, I've reported it.

Hey slb, I think we seriously need some portals to report spam websites directly to someone at Google, AI spam is already taking over the SERPs nowadays, very very annoying and bad experience, I know the normal interface besides each result position but seems Google never care about such reports...

There's "Feedback" link for both the search results and the Knowledge Panel. I doubt that a large volume of similarly targeted feedback would go unnoticed (why would they keep this feature then?).

Interestingly he shows up fine for "governors of california" but not for any movies or anything you'd expect his headshot to appear on.

Maybe Google knew his character in Terminator was a robot, so the anti-robot filter kicked him out of the cast. Sounds like a case of robophobia to me! ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14HIPF0K8fY

>But I read in Esqwired Magazine that some robots are hard-wired to be robosexual!

It's easy to forget to include him as allowed in your robots.txt

Another one to report: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33763310

Interesting! Brave search has Schwarznegger as the first cast member

His name is Schwarzenegger, please

Some wokewashing/cancel stuff no doubt.

It must be frustrating for you to be so free of empathy and full of racism, and not being able to use the n-word any time you like. Boo hoo.

I don't think he wants to type or search for racist words, he just wants search engines to actually show accurate relevant search results again. The fact their algorithm probably identified a famous actor as worth completely erasing from search results should worry you, its such a big and obvious mistake, think about all the small and non-obvious mistakes it's probably making right now.

No, it has nothing to do with search engines or Arnold Schwarzenegger (which literally mean "black negro" in German, with all the racist connotations of the n-word, as the discussion above shows).

Whining about "wokism," and pretending that canceling people who say racist things is worse than saying racist things (or inviting white supremacists to eat with you around your dinner table at your private club, instead of canceling and denouncing them), as if empathy and respect for other people and tolerance of diversity and intolerance of bigotry are bad things, is a shibboleth that bigots use to identify themselves and each other, and declare that they're on the racist intolerant side of the culture war. He was simply identifying himself and his beliefs as being intolerant and against canceling intolerance, not earnestly discussing the topic of this conversation or adding any meaningful discourse.

Sure, omitting Arnold Schwarzenegger is a bug (a "Scunthorpe hiccup" as someone already put it), but it's certainly not an intentional part of a big tech liberal conspiracy to force "wokism" down the throat of all the poor oppressed canceled racists, as he and his ilk so often imply.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem

> he just wants search engines to actually show accurate relevant search results again

"Again"??! Since when were search results ever purely accurate, complete, and unbiased, anyway? Do you also want search engines to show nothing but accurate results when you google how to commit suicide?

> No, it has nothing to do with search engines or Arnold Schwarzenegger (which literally mean "black negro" in German, with all the racist connotations of the n-word, as the discussion above shows).

No, a Hollywood superstar has not been wandering around for 40 years with a racial epithet for a surname.

The discussion above was around "neger" as a standalone word, not as part of a surname. "Schwazenegger" means "black ridge".

https://surnames.behindthename.com/name/schwarzenegger

> Sure, omitting Arnold Schwarzenegger is a bug (a "Scunthorpe hiccup"

Seems your brain has the same bug.

> but it's certainly not an intentional part of a big tech liberal conspiracy to force "wokism" down the throat of all the poor oppressed canceled racists, as he and his ilk so often imply.

That is not what was implied. It's not like racists are fans of Schwarzenegger in particular, this error doesn't "target" racists or cancelled individuals.

The implication was that Google is in the grip of morons whose brains are so reliant on basic pattern matching that they suffer from a problem formerly reserved for badly written computer software.

You should look up the definitions of the words and terms you're incorrectly arguing about. And we're discussing "Schwarzenegger", not "Schwazenegger", and even words and names correctly spelled have multiple meanings, especially to non-sentient computer algorithms that use pattern matching.

And yes, using the term "woke" as an insult is most certainly an Alt-Right shibboleth, and there's absolutely nothing wrong and everything good about being anti-fascist, canceling racists, not inviting white supremacists to eat at your dinner table, and having empathy and respect for your fellow human beings, as much as the Alt-Right tries to ridicule and cancel people who do, and make excuses and carry the water for people who don't.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/25/us/politics/trump-nick-fu...

>Trump’s Latest Dinner Guest: Nick Fuentes, White Supremacist The former president’s table for four at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday also included Kanye West, whose antisemitic statements have made him an entertainment-industry outcast.

https://twitter.com/fmri_guy/status/963613417662746624?lang=...

>As we say in Germany, if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

And beyond identifying himself with the Alt-Right side of the culture war, his comment made absolutely no contribution to the discussion, and had no value. And the conspiratorial implications you perceived from his worthless anti-woke remark are total bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth

>A shibboleth (/ˈʃɪbəlɛθ, -ɪθ/ (listen); Biblical Hebrew: שִׁבֹּלֶת‎, romanized: šībbōleṯ) is any custom or tradition, usually a choice of phrasing or even a single word, that distinguishes one group of people from another. Shibboleths have been used throughout history in many societies as passwords, simple ways of self-identification, signaling loyalty and affinity, maintaining traditional segregation, or protecting from real or perceived threats.

So get a grip. Automatically filtering content is a hard unsolved ongoing problem. This is simply a classic instance of the Scunthorpe problem, not because Google is involved in a vast left-wing woke conspiracy, or their engineers are all idiots.

It fits the definition of "Scunthorpe problem" to a tee. Note the parts about "unintentional" and "blocking of ... search results" and "string (or substring)" and "Names ... are most often cited":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem

>The Scunthorpe problem is the unintentional blocking of websites, e-mails, forum posts or search results by a spam filter or search engine because their text contains a string (or substring) of letters that appear to have an obscene or otherwise unacceptable meaning. Names, abbreviations, and technical terms are most often cited as being affected by the issue.

https://translate.google.com/?sl=de&tl=en&text=Schwarze&op=t...

>Translations of Schwarze: black, black woman, dark man

https://translate.google.com/?sl=de&tl=en&text=negger%20&op=...

>Translation of negger: negro

> And we're discussing "Schwarzenegger", not "Schwazenegger"

Oh wow, a typo. You really got me.

People like you are the reason "woke" took off as an insult. Nauseatingly arrogant but lacking anything to back it up. A bit of introspection would do wonders - surely at this point you've realized nobody wants to be around you, does that not get depressing?

Now go on, post another seething wall of text defining random words that you think make you very intelligent when everyone understands them already. "Shibboleth" is such a good band but you wont have heard of them yet, lol.

Is having your feelings hurt by people like me really the best excuse you can come up with for why you're defending bigotry and attacking tolerance? Being nauseatingly arrogant is so much worse than being racist, that it's all my fault you're racist, huh? I've got more power over you than I realize if I forced you to make that choice in life.

I'm literally laughing at you. These delusions of grandeur and authority are just delightful.

Not showing him as cast of terminator 2, his most successful movie, is bad, but not showing him as cast of CONAN THE BARBARIAN -the 1982 movie- is worst!!¡

Jim Carey is replaced with Paul Giamatti too.

Clearly Google is the source of sky net

Also Michael Biehn is listed, but he wasn't in the sequel; he was only in the original.