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Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by cph123 on Thursday November 10, 2022 @12:08PM (#33549679)
I googled "cactodes" and this comment was the 7th result on the first page.
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by ant6n on Thursday November 10, 2022 @12:39PM (#33550178)
7th result on the first page? Sounds like an authoritative source to me!
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by pessimizer on Thursday November 10, 2022 @02:42PM (#33551990)
Google it a few more times, google will start feeding it back to people who will also google it in disbelief; two years from now they're using it in NYT headlines.
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by lostlogin on Thursday November 10, 2022 @12:54PM (#33550405)
It’s 6th for me, and no adverts. How does this get monetised?
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by orangepurple on Thursday November 10, 2022 @12:59PM (#33550496)
Something something pr0n
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by dredmorbius on Thursday November 10, 2022 @11:35PM (#33557342)
Paige, no!
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by knaekhoved on Thursday November 10, 2022 @12:59PM (#33550493)
Impressive indexing speed.
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by KMag on Thursday November 10, 2022 @07:56PM (#33556020)
If you worked on Google's crawl scheduling, HN would be one of the sites you used to test out ideas for better scheduling heuristics, right?

I worked in indexing over a decade ago, but back then, after some basic constraints (per-IP rate limiting, don't re-check any page for updates too often, don't wait a crazy long time before re-checking any page, etc.), it was a bunch of arcane black magic heuristics to schedule pages for crawling.

These days, I imagine they have one ML model for the expected time until a given page shows up on the first page of search results for some query, another ML model for guessing how much the page has changed (cosine distance of some semantic embedding or something), and schedule based on the product of the two estimates. It's still probably lots of black magic heuristics, just now it's probably heuristics nobody can read.

Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by krick on Thursday November 10, 2022 @09:18PM (#33556566)
Can you give an example of "arcane black magic heuristics"? I cannot imagine, what weird rules you could even come up with, aside from the normal "sensible" ones you already listed.
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by KMag on Wednesday November 23, 2022 @12:36PM (#33722146)
I was on a different team, but my third-hand knowledge from 20 years ago (notably, before deep learning became mainstream, even at Google) was that Google crawl scheduling had a bunch of heuristics to guess at the update frequency of a given page. The probability that a page has changed since you last crawled it is an important factor in the expected utility of crawling it now.

As I mentioned, I expect that even more arcane heuristics, in the form of ML models, has largely or completely replaced the hand-written heuristics.

Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by ch4s3 on Thursday November 10, 2022 @02:16PM (#33551574)
It's 6th now.
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by valarauko on Thursday November 10, 2022 @03:15PM (#33552590)
8th for me on Kagi
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by CalRobert on Thursday November 10, 2022 @06:04PM (#33554903)
Poor DuckDuckGo doesn't even have it on page 1.
Re:Octopuses caught on camera throwing things at each other by oliwary on Thursday November 10, 2022 @11:02PM (#33557193)
Does not show up for me at all in results, interesting. I am outside, wonder if they have geographically separated cashes.