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Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by whywhywhywhy on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @06:41AM (#33530155)
If they’re doing that then it means Meta, Twitter, Stripe, etc process got rid of the wrong people.
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by HgW33WiY6m3W4H9 on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @06:53AM (#33530259)
I work at Stripe. I can’t throw a proverbial paper clip at this company without hitting someone who could be founding a company right now. There’s no way to lay off 14% of Stripe without setting free scores of future founders.
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by naijaboiler on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:00AM (#33530944)
hubris of tech workers. as if starting successful companies is just that easy
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by sillysaurusx on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:23AM (#33531209)
It’s helpful to remember that we’re collectively doing about 1% of what we theoretically could be accomplishing.

If you somehow forced someone to sit and practice drawing a hand for eight hours a day, they would get surprisingly far as an artist.

Being a founder isn’t too dissimilar. Determination tends to be decisive.

If you spent eight hours a day trying to make a small group of users love you, you’d get surprisingly far.

I think that’s what they mean about potential founders at Stripe. There’s a lot of potential energy that a layoff might release.

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by andsoitis on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @09:10AM (#33531818)
my guess is that most, if not nearly all, successful founders were pulled into that position (i.e. self-directed) vs pushed out of desperation.
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by d6rd7rxuxutx on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:14AM (#33532725)
I'm not sure about that.

Starting a company is a risk vs reward calculation. If they were getting high salaries it wouldn't be unreasonable to want to minimize your risk by working on a project on the side while getting a bigger saving bank until a certain point. If you get fired the calculation is now whether you want to invest in job search or take the plunge and start the company

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by andsoitis on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:59AM (#33533475)
If you were that risk averse (that you didn’t act on your entrepreneurial instincts) when times were good, my money is that you’re more likely to double down in searching for safety.

I don’t know that there are any stats on this so in the end it is juts your and my opposing instincts :-)

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by Firmwarrior on Thursday November 10, 2022 @01:23AM (#33542961)
A lot of entrepreneurs' personal stories start off with a setback like this last couple of weeks have imparted upon thousands of people

I'll bet a lot of those "low performers" just had a hard time jumping through hoops at the circus, but will do just fine out on the savannah

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by whimsicalism on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @03:01PM (#33537052)
This is the "live laugh love" of the Bay Area.

> It’s helpful to remember that we’re collectively doing about 1% of what we theoretically could be accomplishing.

Is this supposed to mean anything at all?

Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by throwaway2037 on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @08:57AM (#33531652)
I feel exactly the same. I would love to run my own tiny company, but it looks very tough to bootstrap. Everytime I hear someone say it is easy, I cringe.
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by ransom1538 on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @09:36AM (#33532167)
Uber for cats will rise again!
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by mywittyname on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @10:19AM (#33532805)
OP isn't saying it's "easy". They are pointing out that forming a startup is achievable by a small (scores = several 20s ~= 60-100) number of people impacted.
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by Sakos on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @11:24AM (#33533865)
Imagine thinking that starting a new company is a bad idea. It might not be easy, but the engine of progress is the birth of new firms, not the monopolization of markets through a handful of them. The vast majority of jobs are provided by small to medium-sized businesses, not companies like Twitter or Stripe. This is particularly true in Europe, but it's quite universal. We need new companies, even if some fail (or even most).
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by mbreese on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @07:00AM (#33530308)
Not necessarily… a potential good startup founder is not necessarily a skill set that a FB needs right now. And many business ideas that aren’t “FB-scale ideas” can still be quite successful for a small founding crew.
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by underdeserver on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @07:04AM (#33530344)
Not necessarily. There may be business opportunities that Meta, Twitter and Stripe are not interested in.
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by stephencanon on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @07:12AM (#33530430)
That’s right—-any time you’re laying off thousands people at once, some of them will the “the wrong people”. There is no mechanism for mass layoffs that can accurately target only “low performers”. Even if these layoffs reflect good decisions, good decisions at corporate scale are not necessarily good decisions at the individual level.
Re:Meta lays off 11,000 people by seydor on Wednesday November 09, 2022 @07:41AM (#33530720)
Let's hope so