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Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by MarchKilroy89 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:15PM (#33028051)
This affidavit is a laugh riot so far. Guy has a background in infosec, an holds a CISSP cert, among others. The FBI sends him crypto and what does he do?!

(1) immediately opens a KYC custodial account (2) xfers the crypto there (3) converts it to USD and sends it to his KYC bank in Colorado.

You can't make this stuff up. Also I love how (ostensibly either proton or tutanota) is referred to "Foreign Email Provider". They should buy ForeignEmailProvider.com and make it another email domain for their users. I would love [email protected]

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by jrockway on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:45PM (#33028351)
One of my deep background worries is how many criminals aren't caught because they don't make amateur mistakes. You always read these indictments and the perpetrator served themselves up on a silver platter. But what about all of those unsolved crimes that might simply be unsolvable!
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by bowmessage on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:36PM (#33028822)
This is FUD, but don't discount the fact that the 'easy' path to catching this criminal could be fabricated in order to hide the real, more intense, methods used by the authorities to uncover Jareh.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by loxias on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:23PM (#33029700)
I don't think it's FUD at all. Evidence laundering is well documented and has judicial approval by the Roberts court...
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by adultSwim on Thursday September 29, 2022 @08:14PM (#33029126)
In the jargon, this is called "parallel construction".
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by jjtheblunt on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:49PM (#33028936)
To your point, he worked for the NSA for 3 weeks, only 3 weeks!

So some such system detected him as a threat and he left in under a month of employment? That's wild.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by wjnc on Friday September 30, 2022 @04:45AM (#33032524)
Well this takes the testing of compliance with regulations to a new level though. And here I am, doing my daily and weekly chores with HoxHunt and two other Q&A websites on our compliance procedures. And these aren't intellectual questions or anything - rote memorization is what they are striving for. I wish they would just send me crypto and be done with it.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by jjtheblunt on Friday September 30, 2022 @10:59AM (#33035800)
Fiat would be more useful!
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by yieldcrv on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:52PM (#33030322)
Read the affidavit, this one was amateur hour.

The FBI got lucky that one of their honeypot email addresses was the inbox. And then obtained records corroborating everything, such as from Kraken.

and the access logs of the top secret material from the agency's systems.

The access logs said Dalke accessed. Kraken's logs said "there were deposits of Monero in Dalke's accounts that are the exact amounts you sent Dalke, accounting for exchange rate fluctuations". Kraken's KYC records said "here's Dalke and his addresses". The UPS store he was using for an address said "Yep, Dalke keeps a drop here". The bank account connected to Kraken said "Yep, its Dalke". The setup at Union Station in Denver was for Dalke to come there between 11:30am and 3:30pm on September 28th, the affidavit ends 1 day before that, and Dalke was arrested in that exact location the next day.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by andy_ppp on Friday September 30, 2022 @02:46AM (#33031749)
The FBI claim they got lucky…
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by yieldcrv on Friday September 30, 2022 @05:22AM (#33032757)
okay, explain the parallel construction possibility?

he would have been emailing anyone and the compromised wires picked it up for the FBI to then begin their sting operation?

The FBI still had to do the work, but I think its also plausible that they have a bunch of honeypot email inboxes around. I think since they had to do all the communication as well as the transferring of funds that it's not really parallel construction, at least in any controversial way for evidence collection. They got additional evidence that doesn't need creating a rationale retroactively.

but what do you think happened here?

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by andy_ppp on Friday September 30, 2022 @05:44AM (#33032882)
I’m just saying, personally, I take court documents the FBI file with a grain of salt. Given their record I think this is appropriate.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by yieldcrv on Friday September 30, 2022 @07:17AM (#33033440)
They have very questionable affidavits on their cyber and digital side

I don’t see the issue with this one to apply such a rigid stance

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by jvanderbot on Friday September 30, 2022 @06:21AM (#33033082)
I don't understand what everyone is talking about here. TFA clearly says the FBI transferred the crypto to him.

Maybe he did dumb things with it, but the whole thing was a sting.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by lamontcg on Thursday September 29, 2022 @08:38PM (#33029323)
I'm more worried about all the criminals that are out there not being caught because we won't crack down on what they're doing, not really because they're some kind of masterminds.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by lm28469 on Friday September 30, 2022 @05:23AM (#33032769)
Looking at fraud statistics the vast majority of them aren't caught.

Look at the VAT fraud in Europe, billions lost, virtually nobody arrested

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_trader_fraud

> Notwithstanding these measures, MTIC fraud remains a problem for the EU. As at November 2018, calculations estimating the annual costs of the fraud range from €20 billion up to more than €100 billion (depending on methodology adopted).[21] An EU Parliament study in October 2018 found that MTIC/carousel fraud is the most damaging type of cross-border VAT fraud with an estimated €50 billion losses on average per year.

France is also hemorrhaging billions through social benefits fraud, they don't even attempt to recover most of it as they don't have the manpower

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraude_sociale_en_France

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by routeroff on Friday September 30, 2022 @07:52AM (#33033657)
I would be extra careful about the "billions" of social fraud in France. Wikipedia make a difference between the shortfall due to unpaid contribution (undeclared work for example) and the loss due to benefit fraud.

Different figures are given but it looks that most those "billions" are in fact shortfall and not benefit fraud.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by mountainb on Friday September 30, 2022 @06:09AM (#33033005)
Most criminals are never caught. There is lots more crime going on than you might think. A lot of academics and journalists present crime as 100% captured by official statistics. Prosecutors do a lot of prioritizing.

Drug crime gets a lot of attention because the statutes are written in a way that makes the crimes very easy to prove. It’s far easier to prove the elements of a drug possession charge than it is to prosecute something like fraud.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by CTDOCodebases on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:33PM (#33028802)
Authorities go after the lowest hanging fruit or the most visible. Targeting the most visible feeds back into peoples perception that if they commit a crime they will get caught.

The authorities are strategic in their approach but at the end of the day they are operating on finite resources.

The advantage the authorities have though is that they are playing offence. They can make plenty of mistakes and still achieve their objective.

Criminals just have to make one mistake and it can undo all the she effort they have made to mitigate risk.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by throwawaysleep on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:04PM (#33028539)
Most reported crimes aren't even close to being solved.

https://www.vox.com/2018/9/24/17896034/murder-crime-clearanc...

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by bombcar on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:52PM (#33028414)
Some of them go for awhile, but the criminal has to not slip up every single time.

But if you are going to do a crime do it once and done and you may very well get away with it.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by abruzzi on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:47PM (#33028915)
This reminds me of a thought I had a few years ago. A Sheriff in my state was arresting for buying IT equipment using department funds (I think it was Cisco gear) and selling it on eBay and pocketing the cash. He had done this a bunch of times. As someone who works in local government and knows how things work here, my thought was instantly the following:

-> some gear get purchased bet never used/installed for a few years. Sits around gathering dust. -> Sheriff sees this, takes it home sells it on eBay. Nobody notices or cares. It wasn't being used after all. -> Sheriff finds other unused gear, takes home and sells it. -> No valuable unused gear left, so Sheriff starts buying stuff simply so he could take it home and sell it. -> At this point it is noticed. Seriff gets found out and arrested.

If it was just the first step, nobody would have noticed and the guy would have pocketed $20k or whatever, and no one in the world would have been the wiser. The auditors may have eventually discovered the piece missing, but long after any video recordings expired, and the original purchase was perfectly legit. But greed combined with stupidity got the guy arrested.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by bombcar on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:56PM (#33028993)
Yep. Financial crimes have you coming back for more almost every time.

Those who could resist doing it more than once probably can resist doing it at all.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by anothernewdude on Friday September 30, 2022 @03:25AM (#33031983)
OpSec isn't hard, but it's a pain in the ass. In many ways that's worse for adherence.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by CPLX on Thursday September 29, 2022 @08:45PM (#33029376)
Indeed. This is basically the crime version of the anthropic principle.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by hollerith on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:33PM (#33030188)
Please just call it a selection effect.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by notch656a on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:20PM (#33028693)
Only explanation I can think of is dude planned to leave the country shortly and figured he'd be gone by the time he got caught so there was no point in covering it up.

Also based on the value the crypto was Monero (and he use Kraken, which is only big US exchange that converts XMR/USD pair), so he probably didn't realize even though it is difficult to directly trace where it came via the blockchain the exact unique amount deposited on KYC exchange fucked him. A naive Monero user would probably think "impossible to find where monero came or went from, so I'm safe" not realizing they're leaking out the side-channel by depositing a unique amount on a centralized exchange.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by cypherpunks01 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:31PM (#33028782)
"His resume also states that he has specialized training with federal law enforcement related to digital forensics and incident response, dark web investigations..."

Lol, I suppose he's guilty of lying on his resume too!

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by qbrass on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:02PM (#33029985)
They probably had him watch a training video or two, so it's more of an embellishment.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by jandrese on Friday September 30, 2022 @12:19AM (#33030882)
Might explain why the NSA fired him so fast.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by throwoutway on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:35PM (#33028819)
Most CISSPs I interview can’t tell me the difference between the two most common types of encryption
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by runjake on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:42PM (#33028881)
Presumably, you mean symmetric and asymmetric? I could think of this a few ways. Granted some of the others are more than 2.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by throwoutway on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:44PM (#33028893)
Yes. And the embarrassing part is it’s part of the study guides and covered by the certification.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by walrus01 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:36PM (#33028830)
saw a CISSP who didn't know the difference between a SHA256 checksum and SHA1 or even how to hash a file using openssl
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by computerfriend on Friday September 30, 2022 @12:55AM (#33031145)
I'm relatively deep in this stuff. If you asked my how to use the openssl CLI for anything other than X.509 and s_client I would fail your interview.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by est31 on Friday September 30, 2022 @04:26AM (#33032413)
Yeah openssl CLI is so incomprehensible. And some parameters have to be configured using .conf files, ewww. The C API is hardly any better.

When I read the RFCs behind the stuff to write what I needed in Rust, suddenly it dawned on me: wow this stuff isn't nearly as complicated and horrible as openssl's interface makes it seem like.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by walrus01 on Friday September 30, 2022 @04:53AM (#33032560)
I didn't expect the knowledge of the cli to do it immediately, this person didn't even know they could do it. "openssl dgst -sha256 filename". An answer that they'd need to check the man page would've been sufficient...
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by 3pt14159 on Friday September 30, 2022 @08:58AM (#33034246)
Would you have accepted a python solution? I typically don't do this type of stuff using raw openssl on the rare occasion I need it.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by walrus01 on Friday September 30, 2022 @06:34PM (#33041633)
I would have accepted even the person knowing and confirming they were aware SHA1 is obsolete
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by Something1234 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @08:06PM (#33029068)
Does anyone have a tutorial on using the openssl cli? It seems to barf on some inputs if it's not exactly perfect or you miss a step in the stack overflow answer.

Honestly I would expect some to be more familiar with the hashXsum tools.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by throwoutway on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:44PM (#33028895)
I would expect that. But the lack of knowing the definitions is embarrassing
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by vdfs on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:21PM (#33028100)
4 minutes later, someone registered that domain
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by wswope on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:46PM (#33028359)
Don’t mind me; just checking for any automated scripts that are watching for unregistered domains mentioned on here:

SmallPPDomainRegisterBot.com

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by 93po on Thursday September 29, 2022 @11:21PM (#33030502)
This domain does in fact point to a potato shaped like genitalia. Either someone had $10 to spare for a laugh or the bot does exist
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by runnerup on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:59PM (#33028488)
how would you differentiate a script from a troll?
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by jjoonathan on Thursday September 29, 2022 @09:51PM (#33029912)
A mystery for the ages.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by wswope on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:26PM (#33028747)
SmallPP-HN-Troll.com

Troll the troll into trolling themselves?

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by bergenty on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:02PM (#33028518)
What’s the difference in this case?
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by MarchKilroy89 on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:28PM (#33028188)
Wasn't me! But I expect my hackerman handle when you get your infra set up, anonymous registrant! :p
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by kevin_thibedeau on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:41PM (#33028303)
You should grab Hackerman31337 first. That will be worth something.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by lamontcg on Thursday September 29, 2022 @08:30PM (#33029237)
i call dibs on [email protected]
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by arthurcolle on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:41PM (#33028302)
They should just redirect ForeignEmailDomain to whatever the real foreign email domain was lmao. What is it, Tutanota? ProtonMail? FastMail? Lmao
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by yieldcrv on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:38PM (#33030216)
> on or about August 24, 2022, the OCE deposited approximately 0.64053413 units of the requested cryptocurrency, worth approximately $99.90 USD

Monero was worth $154 on August 24th, is a privacy crypto and .64 of that would be $99

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by mzs on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:53PM (#33028419)
And he worked at NSA for under a month.
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by jiveturkey on Friday September 30, 2022 @03:05AM (#33031881)
I'm guessing he fell for some internal honeypot, and that led to his immediate termination and subsequent monitoring. Then he also transmitted the honeydocs and the rest.

Sure they traced the crypto but that's not how they got him.

Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by jmkni on Thursday September 29, 2022 @10:38PM (#33030221)
This is interesting, I wonder if he quit or got fired. Bit of a red flag to work for the NSA and quit after a few weeks lol
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by queuebert on Thursday September 29, 2022 @07:33PM (#33028805)
As opposed to the domestic email providers that willingly hand over private info when they ask politely?
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by belter on Friday September 30, 2022 @06:57AM (#33033322)
The NSA has 32,000 employees. Not everybody there is a Ramanujan...
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by feet on Friday September 30, 2022 @07:03AM (#33033367)
>Guy has a background in infosec, an holds a CISSP cert, among others
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by belter on Friday September 30, 2022 @07:26AM (#33033483)
Like I said...
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by rsj_hn on Thursday September 29, 2022 @06:44PM (#33028335)
Brilliant! Also try "ShadyForeignEmailProvider.com"
Re:Former NSA Employee Arrested on Espionage-Related Charges by fsckboy on Friday September 30, 2022 @02:25AM (#33031627)
that's taken, I suggest NotShadyForeignEmailProvider.com