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Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by l72 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:10AM (#31848566)
I have started doing something completely different than using bookmarks. I set up yacy[1] on a personal, internal server at my home, which I can access from all my devices, since they are always on my wireguard vpn.

Yacy is actually a distributed search engine, but I run in 'Robinson mode' as a private peer, to keep it isolated, as I just want a personal search of only sites I have indexed.

Anytime I come across something of interest, I index it with yacy, using a a depth of 0 (since I only want to index that one page, not the whole site). This way, I can just go to my search site, and search for something, and anything related that I've indexed before pops up. I found this works way better than trying to manage bookmarks with descriptions and tags.

Also, yacy will keep a cache of the content which is great if the site ever goes offline or changes.

If I need to browse, I can go use yacy's admin tools to see all the urls I have indexed.

I have been using this for several months and I am using this way more than I ever used my bookmarks.

[1] https://yacy.net/

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by kybernetikos on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:33AM (#31848879)
This is great, and is something I've wanted for a while. I use pinboard which is supposed to have similar capabilities (click 'search full text', 'search mine' after turning on and paying for 'archiving'), but I've never been totally confident in it (pages would change, and the cached version was updated to a 404 page), and ended up letting my archiving subscription lapse.

I think google used to offer something that did this as well as search all your local files, but I think that went the way of all gThings.

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by mitchdoogle on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:30PM (#31851472)
There's also https://historio.us/ - it's essentially same as what OP is doing but it's as easy as bookmarking
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by kybernetikos on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:07PM (#31854520)
That does look pretty cool, and unusually for a SaaS has chosen a pricing I think is reasonable for the service (not everything should be $9 a month!).

Do you know if it does pdfs? That's a key thing I want in this kind of service.

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by kerneis on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:38AM (#31858453)
I use Zotero for this and it shines at pdfs. It does webpage snapshots too. Discussed below: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31849987
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by aaaaaaaaata on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:15PM (#31888044)
All of Stavros' stuff is reasonably priced and sexy.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by danesparza on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:21PM (#31853174)
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by kybernetikos on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:05PM (#31854486)
That's a good one, but I was thinking of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Desktop

> Google Desktop was a computer program with desktop search capabilities, created by Google for Linux, Apple Mac OS X, and Microsoft Windows systems. It allowed text searches of a user's email messages, computer files, music, photos, chats, Web pages viewed, and the ability to display "Google Gadgets" on the user's desktop in a Sidebar.

Discontinued in September 2011

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by prepend on Friday June 24, 2022 @07:47AM (#31860364)
Google desktop was so great. It’s also weird how bad windows search and Mac search sucks.

Google desktop was able to find files anywhere in milliseconds. Still today if I search for a file on windows it takes many seconds and frequently misses the file. And there’s an indexing service that seems to peg my cpu every once in a while.

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by hashim on Friday June 24, 2022 @08:17AM (#31860634)
You want Everything. I've been using it for probably close to 10 years now, it makes searching on Windows not just bearable, but capable.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by Veen on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:16AM (#31848650)
I'd love something similar to automatically crawl and index every site I visit. I'm forever losing stuff. I know I saw it but I can't remember where.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by mttjj on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:23AM (#31848735)
This is Mac only and I have no affiliation other than I like this developer but your request reminded me that he just launched this app: https://andadinosaur.com/launch-history-book
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by prepend on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:36PM (#31855448)
That’s a really genius idea. I also like the author’s pricing mode. I was fearing some stupid “$10 is just the price of coffee. This is worth 24 coffees a year for the rest of your life” and have a reasonable $7 purchase price.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by kamray23 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:22PM (#31856311)
that's some expensive ass coffee considering i buy a bag for less than that and use it for a week or two, making tens of cups
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by prepend on Friday June 24, 2022 @07:48AM (#31860372)
You are not Starbucks’ market.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by kamray23 on Friday July 01, 2022 @07:12PM (#31954250)
who the fuck is starbucks' market if a daily coffee costs over $2000 each year (assuming you do a 5-day workweek and throwing two months off the year to account for days when you don't get morning coffee from starbucks)

you have to be swimming in money

that makes me doubt that anyone would pay more than $2-4 and even that's overpriced as hell

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by chillpenguin on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:38PM (#31852556)
I use BrowserParrot for this. Works really well.

https://www.browserparrot.com/

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by dingleberry420 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:37PM (#31855948)
> Right now we only support MacOS
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by hcarrega on Saturday June 25, 2022 @03:39PM (#31878086)
loving :) thanks
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by thinkmassive on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:41PM (#31851650)
ArchiveBox documents how to automatically archive links from your browser history:

https://github.com/ArchiveBox/ArchiveBox/wiki/Usage#Import-l...

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by skinnymuch on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:24PM (#31857185)
Archive box can do authentication too. Haven’t checked if yacy can. Pinboard can’t. Pocket can.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by asselinpaul on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:04PM (#31851044)
https://heyday.xyz comes to mind
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by nix23 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:10PM (#31853824)
Use the yacy-proxy funktion.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by slammm on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:23AM (#31942340)
I had trouble with that, I ended up using this userscript https://github.com/JeremyRand/YaCyIndexerGreasemonkey
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by akrymski on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:44PM (#31852636)
I use Google for this. It's really annoyingly good at finding previously visited pages.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by fudged71 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:23PM (#31851335)
Vortimo
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by a5huynh on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:19PM (#31852268)
A bit different, but I've been building something similar that runs locally: https://github.com/a5huynh/spyglass

You create some rules for topics you want to index and it'll go out and crawl them. Searching through it is a global hotkey away.

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by luckman212 on Monday June 27, 2022 @08:30AM (#31893619)
Spyglass looks amazing! Thank you for this.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by a5huynh on Monday June 27, 2022 @02:50PM (#31898967)
Thank you! Feel free to ping me on Github/Discord if you run into any issues, always looking to make it better :)
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by BiteCode_dev on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:41PM (#31855501)
Nice

I have wished for a while that browser would store the entire page of any bookmark you save automatically, and put a decent search engine on it. I wrote a script once to do it for my bookmarks, and it didn't even take that much space on my hard drive.

Your system could be a Firefox addon, kinda like what scrapbook used to be, but automatic. Even with a note system, and storing metadata, Zotero style, but without the need for the dual setup.

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by account42 on Friday June 24, 2022 @07:18AM (#31860142)
How mozzilla is not pursuing that kind of innovation in Firefox itself is beyond me. Instead they continously try to ape the Chrome UI and collect telemetry without permission so that they can give you "exciting" "new" features like colorways.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by Nition on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:34PM (#31855921)
What a good idea. A search engine like Kagi could support importing your existing bookmarks as a custom lense.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by jrochkind1 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:03PM (#31852005)
Nice! How about getting it to automatically index your whole search history?

Not what you're going for -- you don't have a list of specifically opted-in 'bookmarks' to browse.

but I have often wanted "wait, what was that site involving X I was looking at maybe last week?"

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by pmoriarty on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:46PM (#31853511)
It would also be nice to be able to search through my aggregated browsing history on every device I use.

Maybe I should open a feature request to Google/Fracebook to provide an API hook for that, since they probably already have all that information anyway.

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by hbarka on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:59PM (#31853685)
This. I wonder if there is a way to direct my searches first to the domains I have ever visited. Oftentimes I will search for something that I am sure I’ve hit before but can vaguely remember which result set it was that scored my search.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by Jarwain on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:21PM (#31855311)
My chrome history appears to aggregate my browsing across devices Anyways, so it should just be a matter of exposing that info
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by CRConrad on Sunday June 26, 2022 @09:20AM (#31883666)
Firefox probably does too, if you're logged in.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by nix23 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:08PM (#31853795)
Yes works, you just need to use the proxy function of yacy, and everything get s indexed.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by jrochkind1 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:02PM (#31855121)
Facebook doesn't share data out in APIs!
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by rasulkireev on Friday June 24, 2022 @11:04PM (#31872151)
This is insane! Thanks for recommendation! Was able to set it up relatively quickly and now have a personal search of all the things that I find interesting, this is insane!
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by keyle on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:19PM (#31856919)
How does the process of bookmarking goes then? meaning, how hard is it to add something to crawl with depth0 on a day to day. Can it be done with a bookmarklet?
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by jxm262 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:28PM (#31854733)
Ive never even considered something like this before, but its genius!

The offline caching sounds awesome.

Thanks for sharing

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by mejutoco on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:27PM (#31854074)
This is how I always imagined the search engines of the future to work. All the data is local first and the user is in control.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by sanwrencho on Friday June 24, 2022 @01:09PM (#31865842)
me too, when I first used delicious I was hoping that individual curators could provide a more in-depth "meta search" engine! Pocket is not bad, it provides some interesting links to new stuff on the web.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by tecoholic on Thursday June 30, 2022 @06:04AM (#31930522)
I really liked this setup. The only point of friction for me was adding the links to the index via the crawler everytime. So I created a Firefox Extenstion to do it directly from the address-bar.

If someone is interested, you can download it from here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/yacy-it/

Limitation: It currently supports only YaCy running on localhost and unprotected. You might have to configure CORS as outlined here -> https://github.com/tecoholic/yacy-it#configuring-yacy

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by johntash on Monday June 27, 2022 @07:25PM (#31902249)
Thanks for this recommendation! Do you only index things with a depth of 0? I just set Yacy up a couple days after seeing this post, and didn't realize what that meant at first.

Now I have 10s of 1000s of pages indexed after importing my bookmarks/history, and I'm wondering if it'd be more useful to _only_ index the pages I've visited/bookmarked, or if it'd also be good to crawl those sites further.

I guess one distinction would be whether or not I thought I could use Yacy as a full-time replacement for google/ddg. It'd be nice if I could index "everything", but then have a toggle to search only my bookmarks/history or something similar to that.

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by dopidopHN on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:21PM (#31853171)
Thanks this look neat. Can you easily share index accros clients?

Edit : looks like the docker config allow to mount a arbitrary folder , that folder can be shared. I don’t need it to be concurrent proof.

Again, thanks this look nice.

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by mitchdoogle on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:29PM (#31851453)
If anybody is interested in this, there is also a service which offers very similar thing: https://historio.us/
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by stavros on Thursday June 23, 2022 @12:42PM (#31851666)
That's mine! Feel free to drop a line if you need anything.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by ryan29 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:29PM (#31853294)
I have 3 tech related subscriptions; BorgBase, JetBrains, and historio.us. I self-host everything, but I've never found anything that replaces historio.us. It indexes just enough to always get me a complete copy of the data I want cached and the search results are just right. I often have about 1 page of search results when I'm looking for old info and I can pick out the page I'm looking for instantly.

I use it a lot when I'm learning something new. As I'm looking for beginner info I'll often find more advanced stuff that I'd like to try or learn at some point, but I don't have a good enough understanding to know if it's truly useful info. I historify those sites and move on knowing that I can find it in my historio.us search at a later date.

I also reference cached pages in a lot of my personal docs. I recently started using ArchiveBox for that, but the search doesn't make it a good replacement for the above use case.

I've been using historio.us since 2011 (!) and have never found anything to replace it. Great job!

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by stavros on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:30PM (#31853312)
Thanks, I'm glad you like it! I really should give it some love, but I'd need to do a fairly sizable rewrite for most stuff...
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by cupofpython on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:02PM (#31852892)
"i like historious" as the only review at the bottom gave me a laugh for some reason
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by jrib on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:41PM (#31854221)
product looks very promising!

Some UI feedback: I went to check out https://historio.us/ and on my macbook air I saw the top of the green button "see our plans". Took me a couple of clicks until I realized I had to scroll down to click the real "plans and pricing" button that was off my screen.

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by stavros on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:45PM (#31854257)
Ahh, thanks! The same link is at the top, but I'll see if I can reposition.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by account42 on Friday June 24, 2022 @07:14AM (#31860113)
That sounds really cool. How difficult is this to set up?

How confident are you that this will keep your bookmarks safe? Losing indexed data might not be such a big concern for a search engine that is intended to re-index everything continuously.

I defnitely felt betrayed when I found out that Firefox automatically deletes old history :/ I guess they think that most users need to trash their profile to fix some obscure bug before that anyway...

Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by brokenkebab2 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:31AM (#31848839)
Can it cache indexed pages? If not how do you deal with disappearance/changes online?
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by l72 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:43AM (#31849780)
Yes, it does automatically keep a cache from when it indexed the site. I have it set to not automatically recrawl sites, so the cache is from when I added the site.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by aguynamedryan on Friday June 24, 2022 @01:54PM (#31866591)
I'd love to hear more about how you set all this up, particularly, do you have some sort of extension or bookmarklet that submits the current page to yacy's crawler?
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by pacifika on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:07AM (#31849316)
Nice! I’ve been working on and off on a similar idea (searchable index of link contents) as a cli app eventually web web frontend. It’s on Python so packaging has been an issue.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by hcarvalhoalves on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:47PM (#31855555)
Didn't know about yacy – interesting! Thank you
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by srinathkrishna on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:06PM (#31852953)
This is fascinating! I've been meaning to set something up on a spare rpi for this and I hadn't heard of yacy before. Thanks!
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by RF_Savage on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:02PM (#31856832)
That's an awesome idea. I'll have to look into this. Been looking for something like this.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by omitmyname on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:15AM (#31848638)
That's amazing! I wanted to make something similar. Thank you!
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by ericcholis on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:02AM (#31849264)
This is an incredible idea.
Re:Ask HN: Does anybody still use bookmarking services? by ComputerGuru on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:39PM (#31854200)
How does yacy handle paywalls? Does it use the cookies from your browser instance or can it use bypass services like 12ft and co?